jaster220 Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Wow, that is some insane snowfall rates from the EC storm yesterday! 4-6"+/hr And that wasn't LES fluff either, but low ratio fatties stacking. Would love to get in on some of that but not too likely without traveling elsewhere. Totals range upwards of 24-30" in parts of NH and ME. That'd be nice to see basically overnight. I don't ever remember seeing this out east before either! Avalanche warning?? Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Avalanche warnings?!?! Lol. I don't know that I've ever seen that up there before either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Yeah, it's the UP (Calumet area), but very much what my world was like for weeks on end in the record snowy mid 90's across NMI ..and another clipper tonight on top of the 8-10" since yesterday around APX's favored belts. When it piles on, it piles on up there non-stop. It's fantastic if you can deal with the shortness of the warm season. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 http://media.mlive.com/weather_impact/photo/storm-tracks-comparedjpg-ddfc465de8c626f1.jpg Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 That red and or blue colors are my favorite tracks for SEMI. Now, can we get a track like this????!!! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 That red and or blue colors are my favorite tracks for SEMI. Now, can we get a track like this????!!! I like the map, but '67 didn't track like that, '78 did. They were two different style of storms. Not sure who made that map, but WGN/Skilling has shown '67 several times and it wasn't like that. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 That red and or blue colors are my favorite tracks for SEMI. Now, can we get a track like this????!!! I like the map, but '67 didn't track like that, '78 did. They were two different style of storms. Not sure who made that map, but WGN/Skilling has shown '67 several times and it wasn't like that.Here is a little history on the 1967 storm this also has maps of the storm track http://www.weather.gov/lot/67blizzardand here is some info on the Michigan side of the lakehttp://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2016/01/michigans_1967_blizzard_storie.html#0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 "Blizzard of 2016"???????????????????????? Isn't it wayyyy to early to start tossing out the B-word like that? Not really sure who's graphic that is, but it seems like I would've waited 4 or 5 days before even saying anything at all. Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 That red and or blue colors are my favorite tracks for SEMI. Now, can we get a track like this????!!! I like the map, but '67 didn't track like that, '78 did. They were two different style of storms. Not sure who made that map, but WGN/Skilling has shown '67 several times and it wasn't like that.We need a track like that. That would clobber our region. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Here is a little history on the 1967 storm this also has maps of the storm track http://www.weather.gov/lot/67blizzardand here is some info on the Michigan side of the lakehttp://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2016/01/michigans_1967_blizzard_storie.html#0I think the 67 track would be a snow to rain scenario for my area, whereas the 78 track is an ideal storm track. Btw:......awesome pics of the 67 blizzard. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 "Blizzard of 2016"???????????????????????? Isn't it wayyyy to early to start tossing out the B-word like that? Not really sure who's graphic that is, but it seems like I would've waited 4 or 5 days before even saying anything at all.That's referring to last winter's massive bliz in the Mid-Atl & S New England. El Nino always must deliver them one of those while we roast up north - freak wx pattern. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 I think the 67 track would be a snow to rain scenario for my area, whereas the 78 track is an ideal storm track. Btw:......awesome pics of the 67 blizzard. '67 gave Detroit some wicked ice and perhaps some rain too? '78 actually started as rain in extreme SEMI before cold air got sucked into the storm and flipped it to snow. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 That's referring to last winter's massive bliz in the Mid-Atl & S New England. El Nino always must deliver them one of those while we roast up north - freak wx pattern.ohhh yeaaaaaaaaa, that one, um yea, ok nevermind Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 December in review was a rather drier month for the Midwest and central/southern Plains...the northern tier was active and wetter. http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/products/maps/acis/MonthPDeptUS.png The northern Rockies into the Dakotas was down right frigid and bled SE but hit a big road block once it hit the Midwest/OV and southern Plains. http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/products/maps/acis/MonthTDeptUS.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Correction, after looking at the correct maps...CFSv2 did generally depict the above normal trend in precip for the northern tier but was a little to warm for temps in the Rockies and http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/mchen/CFSv2FCST/monthly/images/summaryCFSv2.NaPrec.201612.gif http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/mchen/CFSv2FCST/monthly/images/summaryCFSv2.NaT2m.201612.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Those CFS monthly precip forecasts can be somewhat consistent for some areas, but other areas go wet, dry, wet, dry, wet, dry, from day to day. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Those CFS monthly precip forecasts can be somewhat consistent for some areas, but other areas go wet, dry, wet, dry, wet, dry, from day to day.True, and the only consistently wetter region on those maps were the Upper Midwest/Rockies and that is what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I have to point out that December for my area was pretty decent, snowfallwise. I ended up with above normal snowfall and slightly below normal to near normal temps. Managed to get somewhere between 15.0 to 16.0 inches in total snowfall for the month of December. Not too shabby. I believe my average snowfall for December is somewhere around 9 or 10". Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 @ Jaster What is the total snowfall for SEMI in the month of December? 9 to 10", give or take, right? Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 @ Jaster What is the total snowfall for SEMI in the month of December? 9 to 10", give or take, right? Not sure tbh, I'm not a stats guy. But this is pretty accurate thru Saturday, just sad I can be so above normal and staring at bare ground all the same.. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Not sure tbh, I'm not a stats guy. But this is pretty accurate thru Saturday, just sad I can be so above normal and staring at bare ground all the same.. 20161231 MRCC Snowfall departures thru Dec.pngI know what ya mean. My forecast stays dry all week with bitter cold air coming. My highs are projected to remain in the teens and lows in the single digits. A few low 20s for highs are also forecasted. Ugh! Bare ground + frigid air = a big no-no. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 @ Jaster: Here ya go: Statistics for SEMI https://snowfall.weatherdb.com/l/15417/Macomb-Michigan#Monthly%20Snowfall&s=1BUNMH Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Stats for those who like them. Here in Topeka we had 3.1 inches of snow in December. Normal is 4.6 over the past 20 years. Temp anomaly was -1.4F below normal. Topeka has had back loaded winters since 2010 so maybe the best is yet to come. 2010-2016 Topeka total snowfall: Dec 16.1" (12%)Jan 32.5" (24%)Feb 66.7" (48%)Mar 22.3" (16%) December has been the least snowiest month. January has had twice as much as December and February twice as much as January. Even March has had more snow than December. So there you go. 1 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 http://media.mlive.com/weather_impact/photo/storm-tracks-comparedjpg-ddfc465de8c626f1.jpg Last Feb's storm took a great track, but was lacking true cold air so it was a marginal wet snowstorm even in the best hit areas (Michiana). Was like an early season (Nov) NMI storm tbh. It had the track, strength, and moisture to have been an 18" Big Dog, but ended up a 6-12" storm for most. Track is only part of the equation. http://www.weather.gov/iwx/2016022425_snow 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 When was the last time we had a blue track like the map above?! Thats an ideal track. Tbh, give me a track like that one that paralyzes SMI and call it a day. Afterwards, you can bring Spring. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 When was the last time we had a blue track like the map above?! Thats an ideal track. Tbh, give me a track like that one that paralyzes SMI and call it a day. Afterwards, you can bring Spring.That has my vote. Those are my best snowstorms down here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 That has my vote. Those are my best snowstorms down here.Did you have a snowstorm this winter yet?! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Did you have a snowstorm this winter yet?!Not really a snowstorm. Just a little disturbance that moved through back around the 7th or so of this month. Picked up around 1". I've sort of lost interest since so couldn't tell you the day for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Not really a snowstorm. Just a little disturbance that moved through back around the 7th or so of this month. Picked up around 1". I've sort of lost interest since so couldn't tell you the day for sure.Things should get more active in February, so I feel confident that you will get some snow. Definitely more than January standards. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Things should get more active in February, so I feel confident that you will get some snow. Definitely more than January standards.If the LRC holds up I have around 2 chances for a little bit of snow. One near the 15th of February and one around March 3rd. Quick spring after that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 If the LRC holds up I have around 2 chances for a little bit of snow. One near the 15th of February and one around March 3rd. Quick spring after that though.Good luck there....February has a chance! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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