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February 2017 Observations and Model Discussion for the Pacific Northwest


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No... it passed now. Was not really a c-zone but rather a band of precip moving from SW to NE. WRF showed nothing this morning while the ECMWF showed precip and the correct placement as well.

It was a classic beginning of a c-zone that never got completely organized. Look at the 8 hour loop, and see how the band stalls and pivots around 5 am near Issaquah Alps. If did that over Everett you would be the first person here yelling c-zone.

 

I guess you could say there is both kinds of behavior 

pre 5 am - showers moving in

5-6 am pivot and organization into c-zone

6-8am move northeast

8am(now) new c-zone behavior in a more normal place

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Heavy snow falling now...

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1.5" here in the grass and the CZ has slipped just to my North for the time being at least. It's gorgeous out with everything but the main roads caked.

 

The other teachers are all upset we have school.  :lol:

 

10.25" on the year now. Double digits!

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Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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3.0" here. Snow stopped, but has started back up. Roads around here are in terrible shape with a lot of stalled cars and accidents.

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Well judging by the GFS we don't have to worry about our snow pack melting early this year...

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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The WRF shows the CZ reorgnaizing along the King/Snohomish county line this afternoon as well.

 

Thanks for posting this info everyone.

 

Trying to figure out if going into work any length of time is a good idea at this point. (Work in Bothell)

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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1.5" of new snow this morning. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Looks like Kirkland and Redmond were really in the sweet spot with this. A spotter reported 4 inches in redmond ridge.

 

#nosnowforportland

Don't quite get this mentality. Were we posting #nosnowforseattle while getting our event down here? Or hoping you guys could join in on the fun?

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Maybe #nosnowforaltrightracists would be more apropo. Then again Andrew seems to be scoring this morning.

There were some VERY slushy rainbow crosswalks on Capitol Hill this morning
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It was a classic beginning of a c-zone that never got completely organized. Look at the 8 hour loop, and see how the band stalls and pivots around 5 am near Issaquah Alps. If did that over Everett you would be the first person here yelling c-zone.

 

I guess you could say there is both kinds of behavior 

pre 5 am - showers moving in

5-6 am pivot and organization into c-zone

6-8am move northeast

8am(now) new c-zone behavior in a more normal place

 

Maybe just semantics here.   I think of a traditional c-zone occurring with strong westerly flow.   This morning there is a ULL approaching from the NW and the bands of precip are associated with the arc around that low.   Watch the regional loop.   

 

Maybe its a combination of both.   

 

But the activity later this evening and overnight looks like classic c-zone action in the flow behind the departing low.

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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12Z ECMWF total snow from now through tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.

 

ecmwf_snow_24_seattle_6.png

 

 

The precip map shows a classic z-zone signature this evening and into the night right over the I-90 corridor and then slipping south a little to almost the Pierce County line.

 

I suspect that there could be some significant lowland snow totals by tomorrow morning... even more than the ECMWF is showing.   

 

My area is likely going to get pounded in this set-up.

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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12Z ECMWF total snow from now through tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.

 

The precip map shows a classic z-zone signature this evening and into the night right over the I-90 corridor and then slipping south a little to almost the Pierce County line.

 

I suspect that there could be some significant snow totals by tomorrow morning... even more than the ECMWF is showing.

 

My area is likely going to get pounded in this set-up.

Daffodil disaster in the making!

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Maybe #nosnowforaltrightracists would be more apropo. Then again Andrew seems to be scoring this morning.

 

Typical, let's call people we don't agree with names. But yes I am liking my 8" of snow over the past two days. 

 

Wonde how they feel about milo now?

 

Milo!

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Stall that baroclinic zone out next Saturday and we could be talking about some sloppy goodness.

 

It has a March 13/March 21, 2012 look to it...All depends on the track... 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Maybe just semantics here.   I think of a traditional c-zone occurring with strong westerly flow.   This morning there is a ULL approaching from the NW and the bands of precip are associated with the arc around that low.   Watch the regional loop.   

 

Maybe its a combination of both.   

 

But the activity later this evening and overnight looks like classic c-zone action in the flow behind the departing low.

Well usually you're first to call something out a c-zone when it's not when it's around everett, or call ignore the existence of the rare vancouver island convergence zone/twin convergence zone. But yeah I think this morning's band behavior was a battle between low level forcing of a c-zone and upper level setup that wasn't favorable to it. In the end the upper level dynamics won and nobody scored half a foot.

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