Guest happ Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 The reanalysis site has revised the data for October and it ended up at 4.90 which means it blew away 1961 for the highest October NPS. November ended up at +0.7 which makes the combined value one of the highest on record since 1948. The highest years for Oct and Nov combined were... 19481956196119711978198519902013 Al of these winters had major cold and many of them were among the coldest winters on record. None of this grouped failed to deliver major Arctic blasts to the NW. Pretty compelling stuff. That 1990 arctic airmass penetrated well into California and was the first time I recorded a freezing temp/ ice formed on the pool where I lived. Great memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Hole Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Snow Wizard, any thoughts or update? Certainly some unbelievable blocking setting up, but too far east (over us). I think things will change eventually, hopefully before our window for real winter is over. Quote Winter 23-24: Total Snow (3.2") Total Ice (0.2") Coldest Low: 1F Coldest High: 5F Snow Events: 0.1" Jan 5th, 0.2" Jan 9th, 1.6" Jan 14, 0.2" (ice) Jan 22, 1.3" Feb 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoastexpat Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Snow Wizard, any thoughts or update? Certainly some unbelievable blocking setting up, but too far east (over us). I think things will change eventually, hopefully before our window for real winter is over.in before Phil asks you to calculate it yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Jim has a tendency to short-change January 1959. I've noticed it over the years. That cold wave produced -55 in Montana and -35 in NE Oregon (at Minam). Also I believe some all-time record lows on the Colorado plains. Interesting, I've never really looked into that cold wave here. 1951, 1962, and 1963 were the big January cold events from that era I was aware of. I do see that DEN had a high of -1 one day with that event. Yeah, I know I saw some all-time records from Jan 1959. They were either in SE Colorado or nearby areas of KS/OK/NM/TX. Pueblo was close....hit -28 on the 4th. Only -31 on 2/1/1951 and -29 on 1/28/1948 were colder. FYI if you're interested...Boise City, in the OK panhandle, set its all-time record low of -24 on 1/4/1959. Just ran across that reading while looking up numbers for a different post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Snow Wizard, any thoughts or update? Certainly some unbelievable blocking setting up, but too far east (over us). I think things will change eventually, hopefully before our window for real winter is over. I have a lot of faith in this index when it's high in October and / or November. I'm betting we score big somewhere in the late Dec to late Jan period. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 FYI if you're interested...Boise City, in the OK panhandle, set its all-time record low of -24 on 1/4/1959. Just ran across that reading while looking up numbers for a different post.I'm from Oklahoma and didn't know this one. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherArchive Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Snow Wizard, any thoughts or update? Certainly some unbelievable blocking setting up, but too far east (over us). I think things will change eventually, hopefully before our window for real winter is over.Willing to bet this will all flip over to the proper sweet spot with the Kona low of your dreams come March/April and we will all be asking what would've happened if this came in December/January? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I'm from Oklahoma and didn't know this one. Thank you. What do you generally regard as the greatest Oklahoma cold wave of all time? Obviously there was the state record in February 2011, but the one that really stands out to me is the December 1983 blast. A max of 5 at Tulsa and sub-zero at Ponca City. Pretty amazing. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Looking like my index is going to prove itself! 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 What do you generally regard as the greatest Oklahoma cold wave of all time? Obviously there was the state record in February 2011, but the one that really stands out to me is the December 1983 blast. A max of 5 at Tulsa and sub-zero at Ponca City. Pretty amazing. Isn't it 1899? -17 at OKC is pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Hole Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Up to this point this winter has featured extreme blocking, even if not in the right place. All of that looks to change next week with cold air pouring into the west. 2 Quote Winter 23-24: Total Snow (3.2") Total Ice (0.2") Coldest Low: 1F Coldest High: 5F Snow Events: 0.1" Jan 5th, 0.2" Jan 9th, 1.6" Jan 14, 0.2" (ice) Jan 22, 1.3" Feb 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Weatherman Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Looking like my index is going to prove itself! Something good had better come soon! Socal has been almost completely rainless this entire fall and has been one of the driest falls on record down here and a horrible fire season for Ventura and Santa Barbara counties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoastexpat Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Are there any tweaks to the index that you're considering for next winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Are there any tweaks to the index that you're considering for next winter? Not really. If you look at this past winter Dec and Feb were pretty decent. January really spoiled the winter average. Besides...the only time the index is really conclusive is with seasons that have big positive anoms in the autumn. The index did a pretty good job of foretelling major GOA ridging during a large part of the winter. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 What do you generally regard as the greatest Oklahoma cold wave of all time? Obviously there was the state record in February 2011, but the one that really stands out to me is the December 1983 blast. A max of 5 at Tulsa and sub-zero at Ponca City. Pretty amazing.I hadn't been over here in awhile but I'd say December 1983 in terms of just sheer oppression from cold that seemed unending and then the repeat weaker blast following it in mid-January '84. I've listened to stories about it and read the PDF obs forms from then and I think it was pretty special. 2010-11 will probably hold the distinguishing honor of literally being the most extreme bi-polar winter in terms of statistics that I've ever lived through. I don't really know how to surpass the experience of every type of weather in 2 months time. New Years tornadoes to a post-blizzard all-time record low of -31 and an all time record high of 83 within 7 days. Winter total snow 33". It will be hard to top that in my lifetime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Isn't it 1899? -17 at OKC is pretty good.1899 is pretty famous as well. It's in my top 10 that I'd like to live through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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