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00z GFS Hmmmm day 7-8 ridge shoved east to 132-130 W, but day 8, 9, 10 strengthening, amplifying and it slightly built west-northwestward to 135-137 W nosing back to 145-140 W. 500mb progression for the entire pattern looks a little odd. Bit of retrogression too.

 

 

Day 8

http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2017112700/192/500h_anom.na.png

 

 

 

Day 9

http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2017112700/216/500h_anom.na.png

 

 

 

Day 10

http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2017112700/240/500h_anom.na.png

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Patience...

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Pretty clear retrogression signal in fantasyland on the 00z GFS tonight. Too soon??

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Cold Season 2023/24:

Total snowfall: 26"

Highest daily snowfall: 5"

Deepest snow depth: 12"

Coldest daily high: -20ºF

Coldest daily low: -42ºF

Number of subzero days: 5

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Greenland Block retrograded too

 

00z doesn't look too bad. Not a lot of vodka cold air to work with on this side of the globe though.

Cold Season 2023/24:

Total snowfall: 26"

Highest daily snowfall: 5"

Deepest snow depth: 12"

Coldest daily high: -20ºF

Coldest daily low: -42ºF

Number of subzero days: 5

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Pretty clear retrogression signal in fantasyland on the 00z GFS tonight. Too soon??

We need that air over Siberia to move over the North Pole onto our side first. It'll happen eventually.

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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We need that air over Siberia to move over the North Pole onto our side first. It'll happen eventually.

January. :)

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Sounds like it might get breezy again...

 

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE

National Weather Service Seattle WA

302 PM PST Sun Nov 26 2017

 

WAZ001-503-506-507-510-516-517-272315-

/O.NEW.KSEW.HW.A.0003.171128T0300Z-171128T1500Z/

San Juan County-Western Whatcom County-Western Skagit County-

Everett and Vicinity-Admiralty Inlet Area-North Coast-

Central Coast-

302 PM PST Sun Nov 26 2017

 

...HIGH WIND WATCH IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY

MORNING...

 

The National Weather Service in Seattle has issued a High Wind

Watch, which is in effect from Monday evening through Tuesday

morning.

 

* WIND...South winds of 25-35 MPH with gusts of 50-55 MPH.

 

* SOME AFFECTED LOCATIONS...Ocean Shores, Hoquiam, La Push and

Neah Bay. Friday Harbor, Oak Harbor, Bellingham and Everett.

 

* TIMING...Winds will increase Monday evening and the strongest

winds will likely occur late overnight Monday and into early

Tuesday morning.

 

* IMPACTS...Falling trees and limbs, power outages.

 

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

 

A High Wind Watch means there is the potential for a hazardous

high wind event. Sustained winds of at least 40 mph...or gusts of

58 mph or stronger may occur. Continue to monitor the latest

forecasts.

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Mark Nelsen mentions how the last time our "meteorological winter" started this benign was 2008. I've a feeling he reads these boards.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Ensemble show High Temps for Columbia Basin are near or below freezing and dewpoints in the 20s for a week or longer. :) I will welcome that.

 

THEN maybe sometime late in the week 2 period retrogression. Some optimism for that.

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Some pretty wild spread on the ensembles tonight.  Not surprising after the crazy differences between the 18z and 0z GFS runs.  That is some CRAZY blocking on the 0z.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Ensemble show High Temps for Columbia Basin are near or below freezing and dewpoints in the 20s for a week or longer. :) I will welcome that.

 

THEN maybe sometime late in the week 2 period retrogression. Some optimism for that.

 

Looking great for some dry cold.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Is this better than fake cold?

 

Same thing.

 

The real stuff is coming later.  Might as well get some fake cold for the stats while we are waiting.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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If it was about 15 degrees cooler we would be in the middle of a massive blizzard right now.

 

Flashback to Nov 2006 when that actually did happen on the 26th. Around here it went from 42F with rain showers at 4am to 29F with heavy snow by the evening. Probably was pretty similar over there.

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The ECMWF temperature forecast indicates highs in the upper 30s for the Puget Sound area on days 9 and 10 with freezing low temps.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Day 10 Extensive cold pool and east winds on this run. Columbia Basin/Gorge very chilly.

 

 

The blocking is ridiculous!  This one might get into 1984-85 territory.  Our turn for big cold will come.  It would be amazing to see that anomaly in AZ verify.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Yup. It's coming! We just have be patient for another 10-14 days.

 

00z EPS in 40 minutes

 

6z GFS in 1 hour 39 minutes

It's going to take longer than 10-14 days.

 

No need to rush things.

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That's about when I think models will flip and look rather interesting.

Ah, I see. You're probably right about that, lol.

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