HighlandExperience Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I'm thinking most of that will miss Central Sound areas and instead hit points further south. Could be wrong though. <_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Interesting. One of my analogs going this winter was 1921-22. Too bad the middle of the winter didn't work out like that one. Yeah, I don't think any of the old time analogs worked out for this winter. The only similar progressions that I'm seeing are all more recent, i.e. 1989-90, 1993-94, 2005-06. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a reflection of the low-frequency regime change we've seen since the 1970's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 The radar looks decent now, just nothing falling from sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Do you have any snow on the ground? A little bit... maybe an inch in the spots that do not get direct sun. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 This all started with a poorly timed post two nights ago. Told you so! Told you so! I know for a fact that the most guaranteed way to score lowland snow is for me to make a declarative statement that it will not happen and it will be warming up. It works every time! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Yeah, I don't think any of the old time analogs worked out for this winter. The only similar progressions that I'm seeing are all more recent, i.e. 1989-90, 1993-94, 2005-06. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a reflection of the low-frequency regime change we've seen since the 1970's. 1893-94 is reasonably similar, albeit with a better January. It even had an early November snow event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 A little bit... maybe an inch in the spots that do not get direct sun. It seems like the only time I really do a lot better than your location with these events are when they are later in the season. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleweatherguy Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Lots of virga so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Just saw a snowflake fly by in the southerly breeze! 29 degrees currently. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Mark Nelsen is totally calling the NWS on their BS. Not only that...On his blog post he stated he believes snow levels will rise to 2000' by 10pm before dropping back down to about 1500' as cooler air aloft works in later tonight. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Really glad the region finally got the goods. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Snowy up there! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 It all started with their WSW on 12-1-05... 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 1893-94 is reasonably similar, albeit with a better January. It even had an early November snow event. Yeah, that's a good example. January is what blows up most of the old analogs. I'm not seeing much in the way of -ENSO progressions that featured blockiness/dry weather in December, followed by a January torch, followed by February action prior to the modern era. In recent decades, 1989-90, 2005-06 & this winter have pulled it off. I think January used to find a way to be cooler in the old days even under similar forcings, which is not surprising considering the background climate was cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeInEverett Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 A few flurries here. Snowing moderately now, looks to be a short lived shower though. Quote (Previous name: MillCreekMike) Everett, WA (elev. 180’) 2023-2024 Snowfall: 1/11: Tr. 1/18: Tr. Go M’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Snowing moderately here in Glenhaven. Temperature stuck at 30*f. Everything turning white. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 It all started with their WSW on 12-1-05... ....and Mark Nelsen launching his blog the previous day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Mark Nelsen is totally calling the NWS on their BS. Not only that...On his blog post he stated he believes snow levels will rise to 2000' by 10pm before dropping back down to about 1500' as cooler air aloft works in later tonight. Not this first time this has happened. He'll be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 EXCELLENT dynamics with that stuff moving onto the coast. I am very hopeful now. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 ....and Mark Nelsen launching his blog the previous day. I like how Mark will point out when the NWS or other PDX area mets are being ridiculous. He has some well remembered whiffs like 12/29/09, but overall he is the best TV met in Portland and its not even close. I don't mind Zaffino, he is pretty good, but not as good as Mark. 3 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Temp jumped up to 35, sat there for a while, and now is back down to 33. Temp hit a ceiling at 31-32 here. Been there for an hour now. Virga storm definitely in progress. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Snowing! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 And BTW, all these posts about how its not going to snow in the lowlands are in reference to PDX-south...I don't know if its going to snow in the Seattle area. Looking at the models it might...Just don't want anyone up there to think I am trying to rain on their parade. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 ....and Mark Nelsen launching his blog the previous day.I think we all knew it but just didn't want to believe it: It's Mark Nelsen's fault. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I'm not sure Mark Nelson is right about Portland. Radar shows snow almost right up to the coast ad in some cases a bit off the coast. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Flurries now in Bothell. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmet Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 NAM 18z shows the rain shadow filling in by 4pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 The temp has stopped rising at a "toasty" 32.7. This will be the coldest day of the event here. Who would have thought.... Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Weird to see BLI at 30*F and snow with a 20mph SE wind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Not this first time this has happened. He'll be right. The NWS twitter feed about 1-2" an hour snowfall rates hitting Salem at 830pm on Tuesday night is going to be something I laugh about for a long time. It was pretty obvious by early evening that was going to be a non-event at the valley floor south of the Metro area. Yet they stuck to their guns til the bitter end. Their winter weather advisory for the foothills tonight is ridiculous too... 5-10" of snow with "highest amounts above 1000'." Forget there may be a period of rain in there, I don't see enough precip with this system to deliver that kind of snow with what will probably be 7:1 ratios due to being very wet snow. 2-5" seems more appropriate. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 40 and still somewhat pleasant. Can almost see the sun through the increasing clouds. The WWA is indeed asinine. Dewpoint here is 33 and with southerly flow there is no way there is any wintry precip around Salem below 500' and maybe even 1000'. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Yeah, that's a good example. January is what blows up most of the old analogs. I'm not seeing much in the way of -ENSO progressions that featured blockiness/dry weather in December, followed by a January torch, followed by February action prior to the modern era. In recent decades, 1989-90, 2005-06 & this winter have pulled it off. I think January used to find a way to be cooler in the old days even under similar forcings, which is not surprising considering the background climate was cooler. If we can get January back we will be just fine. The other months have been doing ok as of late. I'm hoping the VERY low solar next winter can help us. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Good shadow pattern for sure. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleweatherguy Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Flurries now in Bothell.Nice coming to me soon hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 This is beginning to look potentially serious now. Major slug of precip moving inland now. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Moderate snow now! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Good shadow pattern for sure. Not for long. People need to look really close at that coastal radar. Shear. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I'm not sure Mark Nelson is right about Portland. Radar shows snow almost right up to the coast ad in some cases a bit off the coast.Mark Nelsyn will be right. Not a particularly difficult call. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Not for long. People need to look really close at that coastal radar. Shear.We are definitely getting shadowed here. Flurries falling but the sun is shining brightly through the clouds at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 The heaviest I've seen it snow all winter. Sitting on the couch staring out the window in amazement. YES! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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