Deweydog Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Cue Dewey Jesus joke.He died. Not funny. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 We are on a road trip for spring break, drove to The Oregon Vortex today, gorgeous weather, mid 70s and sunny. Temp peaked at 77 in the truck before climbing the hills on the Redwood Highway to Crescent City after, will be here through tomorrow and then take 4 days to drive up the coast towards home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 We are on a road trip for spring break, drove to The Oregon Vortex today, gorgeous weather, mid 70s and sunny. Temp peaked at 77 in the truck before climbing the hills on the Redwood Highway to Crescent City after, will be here through tomorrow and then take 4 days to drive up the coast towards home.Watch out for those roadside overlooks... 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 The SSW/-NAM helped cool the Arctic after the second week of February (shut off warm advection). The result has been a thickening of the icepack. Nice jump in overall volume over the last month. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Of course, the summer weather pattern matters. The month of August in particular has featured exceptionally hostile circulatory conditions for the last few decades, with no exceptions since 1996. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Watch out for those roadside overlooks...Most fascinating news story in the pnw since Christian Longo. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I still like a transition out of this pattern during the second half of April. Tropical forcing flips from very niño-esque (now) back to more niña-esque (after April 10th). 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Pleasant end to March. 63/41 here. PDX hit 64. Hard to believe PDX's record MIN/MAX of 49 might be in play tomorrow. Going to be quite the crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 This early April period should have been a ridgefest. The Aleutian low/Pacific jet is a powerhouse. However, the downstream western ridge response is being thwarted by the -NAM/-NAO (high latitude blocking feature). I didn’t expect it to resurface this late into the game. Residual SSW effects on the AAM budget ftw. Equatorward wavetrain press. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Mowed today, probably didn’t even need to yet, but it was a nice day. Down to 38 already under clear skies. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Watch out for those roadside overlooks...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 ?http://komonews.com/news/local/search-continues-for-three-missing-hart-children-after-deadly-california-crash-03-31-2018 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 This early April period should have been a ridgefest. The Aleutian low/Pacific jet is a powerhouse. However, the downstream western ridge response is being thwarted by the -NAM/-NAO (high latitude blocking feature). I didn’t expect it to resurface this late into the game. Residual SSW effects on the AAM budget ftw. Equatorward wavetrain press. So, if this tropical forcing can’t pop a western ridge, then the flip to Aleutian ridge/-PNA during the second half of April will probably make it even harder. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 ?Murder suicide Well...Let's just say the circumstances are very suspicious. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Murder suicide Well...Let's just say the circumstances are very suspicious.Oh D**n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 522 thickness line makes it to PDX Monday morning. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Most fascinating news story in the pnw since Christian Longo. Tragic might be a better word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Oh d**n This report just came out...WOW. http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2018/03/hart_family_deadly_crash_speed.html#incart_big-photo Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Tragic might be a better word. Well of course it is tragic, but it is also fascinating. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 This report just came out...WOW. http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2018/03/hart_family_deadly_crash_speed.html#incart_big-photoWow is right. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Bright moon out there. Down to 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Tragic might be a better word.Just a straight sad and dissappointing situation, those kids didn't deserve this, no kids do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Down to 36, much cooler evening than I was expecting. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Going to end March with only one low above 36. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Going to end March with only one low above 36.That’s impressive! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Pressure washer. And -NAO. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherArchive Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Usually -NAO on the east coast is either warm and dry or warm n wet for the PNW. (depending on other factors). Not this kind of cool wave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherArchive Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Going to end March with only one low above 36.? Only one? I am sure you had more then that? The night before last was pretty warm around midnight. Actually the last two nights was 33F. One of the nights recently though it was pretty mild and cloudy most of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherArchive Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 This report just came out...WOW. http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northAwest-news/index.ssf/2018/03/hart_family_deadly_crash_speed.html#incart_big-photoAlways beware of Deadman's Curve. Don't mess around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 ? Only one? I am sure you had more then that? The night before last was pretty warm around midnight. Actually the last two nights was 33F. One of the nights recently though it was pretty mild and cloudy most of it.He lives at 1,600’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherArchive Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 He lives at 1,600’.Near the pull off viewpoint or more back in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Usually -NAO on the east coast is either warm and dry or warm n wet for the PNW. (depending on other factors). Not this kind of cool wave.Not to be rude, but that’s largely a myth. It really depends on the season, and type of block. A west based NAO (of either sign) exerts much greater influence on the PNW/BC than an east based one. Then there’s the question of seasonality and other peripheral forcings. For instance, in JFM, a -NAO tends to correlate with cooler and drier weather across BC/PNW overall, while a +NAO tends to correlate with warmer/wetter conditions during that timeframe. However, in OND, there is no long term correlation between the NAO and PNW/BC temperatures or precipitation. At least nothing consistent. However, in more recent decades, the +NAO favors wetter conditions, while the -NAO favors drier conditions. Still no temperature correlation that I can find. In JAS, the precipitation tendencies reverse, w/ a -NAO correlating to cooler/wetter conditions across BC/PNW, while a +NAO usually features warm/dry conditions. In recent decades, west-based summer -NAO blocks have almost always corresponded to PNW/BC troughing. During AMJ, there is no long term correlation between BC/PNW precipitation and the NAO, however a -NAO during this timeframe usually features cooler temperatures regionally, while a +NAO usually features warmer temperatures. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Near the pull off viewpoint or more back in?In the cavern under North Falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherArchive Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 In the cavern under North Falls.There is actually a bad road that goes to Shelburg Falls open only in summer for obvious reasons so I wonder if he goes back there or lives back there and has a permit/pass, Sorry for bumping this but I was serious in my reply. I was wondering if he lived on that. We actually went on it once to the backside of the falls and it was hell but worth the scenery.. It was back in the 09 thru 11 trend whichever was the wettest Spring that had unusual low snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherArchive Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Not to be rude, but that’s largely a myth. It really depends on the season, and type of block. A west based NAO (of either sign) exerts much greater influence on the PNW/BC than an east based one. Then there’s the question of seasonality and other peripheral forcings. For instance, in JFM, a -NAO tends to correlate with cooler and drier weather across BC/PNW overall, while a +NAO tends to correlate with warmer/wetter conditions during that timeframe. However, in OND, there is no long term correlation between the NAO and PNW/BC temperatures or precipitation. At least nothing consistent. However, in more recent decades, the +NAO favors wetter conditions, while the -NAO favors drier conditions. Still no temperature correlation that I can find. In JAS, the precipitation tendencies reverse, w/ a -NAO correlating to cooler/wetter conditions across BC/PNW, while a +NAO usually features warm/dry conditions. In recent decades, west-based summer -NAO blocks have almost always corresponded to PNW/BC troughing. During AMJ, there is no long term correlation between BC/PNW precipitation and the NAO, however a -NAO during this timeframe usually features cooler temperatures regionally, while a +NAO usually features warmer temperatures.So usually we have more westerly flow during summers under west based -NAO's then +? Is the summers during the 2008-12 periods a west based -NAO dominance for the majority? It makes sense that west based ones would do it as it's closer to the USA jet stream patterns to influence where east based ones I think would effect the UK/Europe weather patterns more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 So usually we have more westerly flow during summers under west based -NAO's then +? Is the summers during the 2008-12 periods a west based -NAO dominance for the majority? It makes sense that west based ones would do it as it's closer to the USA jet stream patterns to influence where east based ones I think would effect the UK/Europe weather patterns more.Yeah, the summers of 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2016 were largely -NAO. Though August 2012 flipped around a bit. The summers of 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2017 were largely +NAO, though it depends which index you use since 500mb can make for deceptive representation of wavenumbers in August and September. Especially for niño years like 2015. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 March ended up -0.9F on the mean. Precip was 40% of normal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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