Timmy Supercell Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 "On this day" in 2016. This was in the middle of an anomalously warm April and in between multiple thunderstorm days quite a bit earlier than normal for Klamath Falls. Temperature was 36-38 degrees at time of photo. Huge flakes, some I estimated close to half dollar coin sized. This is my favorite type of snow. You can enjoy the fluffy flakes, sip on red wine and at the end of the day just looks like another Spring day. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 22 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7 5/8, 5/15, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 My hometown... the middle of the afternoon in April and the roads are completely snow covered and it looks like everyone is staying home. This is in the middle of the Twin Cities area... very populated. Usually the roads get wet during the day when it snows in April regardless of the situation. And the 12Z ECMWF shows the snow going through Monday morning now. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 I know its fools gold... but this would be so nice. Guaranteed it disappears before it arrives. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 SEA is at about 300% of normal for April now... and at +5.50 inches for the rainy season. We had a slightly drier month in March... endless rain in April is the punishment. That can't be allowed to stand! Since you like to use SEA to illustrate wetness... SEA was at about 55% of normal precip for Feb-Mar. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 I know its fools gold... but this would be so nice. Guaranteed it disappears before it arrives. Nah. Last third of the month will almost certainly be much drier than the rest. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of locations down here end up above average for April, in terms of temperatures. Above average temp and precip. Basically the worst of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 BLI, which had a slightly wetter than normal Jan-Mar, is only at 2.31" for the month. Not even close to half their record wettest April. One place seeing a truly impressive wet month to date is Quillayute. They're at 9.21" going into today, about 65% of the way to a record wet April. I think they'll get there. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Since you like to use SEA to illustrate wetness... SEA was at about 55% of normal precip for Feb-Mar. Does that change the impressiveness of April? Just wondering. I think that I am being flatironed again! Anywhooo... SEA is also at +5.50 and climbing for the rainy season as well. In the big picture... 2017-18 has indeed been wet. Once again. And even more anomalously wet in the areas to the north and east of SEA. And all of this was about April. This month is clearly meant to completely bury any previous dry periods and get 2018 back on track to being wet for the 5th consecutive year! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Looks like another day of drippy, mild conditions with a constant south wind and precip hanging off to the NW. Glad we are getting away to the central Gorge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of locations down here end up above average for April, in terms of temperatures. Above average temp and precip. Basically the worst of both worlds. Sure feels that way right now. And I thought April 2017 was bad. I would pay big money to have had a chilly, dry April. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Tim is really milking this current wet pattern for all it's worth. Looking closer at the models, I see why. Looks like most places will be dry for most of Wed-Fri, then probably Sun, Mon, and likely beyond. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Does that change the impressiveness of April? Just wondering. I think that I am being flatironed again! Anywhooo... SEA is also at +5.50 and climbing for the rainy season as well. In the big picture... 2017-18 has indeed been wet. Once again. And even more anomalously wet in the areas to the north and east of SEA. And all of this was about April. This month is clearly meant to completely bury any previous dry periods and get 2018 back on track to being wet for the 5th consecutive year! The fact of the matter is that you dismissed SEA's drier than normal stats for Feb/Mar, but now you keep citing them for April or whatever period supports your unending narrative. Inconsistency. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Tim is really milking this current wet pattern for all it's worth. Looking closer at the models, I see why. Looks like most places will be dry for most of Wed-Fri, then probably Sun, Mon, and likely beyond. I am cautiously optimistic, but it seems like everything nice disappears as it approaches or narrows down to just one day. And SEA possibly being in the top 5 wettest Aprils ever by tomorrow (the mid point of the month) is impressive. That is just a fact... even if the rest of the month was going to be 80 and sunny. And North Bend/Snoqualmie being at 8.06 inches with the wettest April ever being 8.74 inches is impressive. I don't ignore record rainfall. It is happening despite my hope that it would stop. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 I would love a big fat mega ridge to pump up right over the top of my house starting tomorrow and lasting through mid May. Who do I place my order with? 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 The fact of the matter is that you dismissed SEA's drier than normal stats for Feb/Mar, but now you keep citing them for April or whatever period supports your unending narrative. Inconsistency. Holy crap. How many times did I say that it was drier than normal at SEA in that period and wetter than normal to the north and east? How many times Jared? 50?? I experienced the wetter than normal conditions in February... and acknowledged MANY times that it was different at SEA. Now SEA is impressively wet again. And its close to record wet out here as well. Should I ignore it? Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Anywhooo... SEA is also at +5.50 and climbing for the rainy season as well. In the big picture... 2017-18 has indeed been wet. Once again. Since you're talking big picture now, let's look at the water year region-wide. Looks like Seattle area is just slightly above normal, and pretty much everywhere from OLM south is below normal. That's most the PNW. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 I would love a big fat mega ridge to pump up right over the top of my house starting tomorrow and lasting through mid May. Who do I place my order with? There's a decent signal right now for ridginess later this month into early May. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 SEA is around +5.50 for the rainy season. That is a fact. WFO SEA is way above normal as well. Those numbers are real. Paint them on a map however you want. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 And I have said nothing about Oregon or the entire PNW. It's been very different in OR. Well aware. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 SEA is around +5.50 for the rainy season. That is a fact. WFO SEA is way above normal as well. Those numbers are real. Paint them on a map however you want. That's right, Tim. I painted that map. It's not real. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 And I have said nothing about Oregon or the entire PNW. It's been very different in OR. Well aware. Well, you say you want to talk big picture but then focus only on areas from Seattle north. You can keep harping on the same points over and over. Other people pointing out that it's a different picture regionally doesn't contradict your point, it just provides different perspective. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Groundhog's Day. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 That's right, Tim. I painted that map. It's not real.Actual numbers at SEA and WFO SEA are meaningless then. Drill down Jared. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Actual numbers at SEA and WFO SEA are meaningless then. Drill down Jared. The WRCC says the Seattle area has been less than 10% above normal precip since 10/1. I believe that's a broader perspective than two stations, which are pretty close to that as well. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 So it has been a dry rainy season then? Interesting. SEA is + 5.50 and climbing fast. Fact. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 So it has been a dry rainy season then? Interesting. SEA is + 5.50 and climbing fast. Fact. Good grief how many times can you repeat yourself. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 So it has been a dry rainy season then? Interesting. SEA is + 5.50 and climbing fast. Fact. I see you're joining the word-twister club. I never said that. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Good grief how many times can you repeat yourself. Heading towards a record month! Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of locations down here end up above average for April, in terms of temperatures. Above average temp and precip. Basically the worst of both worlds. Above normal temps would be tough IMO. Still a putrid month though. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 The WRCC says the Seattle area has been less than 10% above normal precip since 10/1. I believe that's a broader perspective than two stations, which are pretty close to that as well. March was very decent. I was hopeful the entire spring would be like that. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Good lord x 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 March was very decent. I was hopeful the entire spring would be like that.I agree. March was pretty decent overall. Nature is sure making us pay for it now. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 The CPC is finally showing equal chances of precip instead of above normal for the 6-10 and 8-14 day periods. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 It is just dumping in the Seattle area now. SEA had .11 in the last hour before the real heavy stuff moved in. Racing towards the top 5. In Bellevue waiting for my son's car now... torrential rain here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 March was very decent. I was hopeful the entire spring would be like that. Most of the rest may very well be. Couple weeks in April won't define the entire spring. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Most of the rest may very well be. Couple weeks in April won't define the entire spring.Hope this is true. Very doubtful it really changes until maybe June. I think May might be very wet as well. This Nina is going out with a bang. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Rain. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Hope this is true. Very doubtful it really changes until maybe June. I think May might be very wet as well. This Nina is going out with a bang.Is this any different (locally) than the previous moderate niñas that faded to neutral in spring/summer? The most recent examples of such are 2011 and 2012. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Hope this is true. Very doubtful it really changes until maybe June. I think May might be very wet as well. This Nina is going out with a bang. Well, if SEA does make it into the top 5 wettest Aprils... 1991 - 6.53 (May had 1.39", below normal)2013 - 5.89 (May 2.38", wetter than normal, but not by a lot)1996 - 5.37 (May 2.07", close to normal)1993 - 4.54 (May 2.86", wetter than normal, but nothing extreme)1997 - 4.32 (May 1.87", basically normal) No strong signal either way, and not a top 10 wet May in the bunch. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Is this any different (locally) than the previous moderate niñas that faded to neutral in spring/summer? The most recent examples of such are 2011 and 2012.2011 went out with a bang. It was cold and wet until the middle of July. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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