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8 minutes ago, LowerGarfield said:

At Mossman's the question is...when isn't it? Lol. Randy you'd better take the day off to enjoy it haha. Is Stanwood on late start?

Closed! All the area schools are except Marysville which is 2hrs late. 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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Looks like it’s gonna expand south here in a little bit. Back to decent snowfall at my place after it got sloppy for a little bit! Starting to see some sprinkles/flurries here in Edmonds.

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(Previous name: MillCreekMike)

Everett, WA (elev. 180’)

2023-2024 Snowfall:

1/11: Tr.

1/18: Tr.

Go M’s

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7 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Seems like to me the lack of precipitation for the Seattle is to blame for this forecast bust. I think it was cold enough for snow given the DPs, but forecast models were calling for 1-3" and even higher at some locations with 2-4. 1/10 of precipitation equates to roughly ~1" of snow. For the overnight period, SEA picked up about 0.16-0.18" -- that should be good enough for about 2" had it been cold enough. 

BFI on the other hand picked up 0.11", should be good for about an 1"

I think this is was way less than what the models had picked up. 

It all came down to the track of the low... that deformation band over Randy was originally shown over King County.   But the low ended up farther north.  

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Woke up to my kids telling me it snowed last night! They were not excited.

 

I’ve now reached official “shocked” status with how bad the models have been this year. For weeks now we’ve seen snow maps that defy logic, and time and time again I’ve seen “snowing now” reports from weather apps that are blatantly wrong. 
 

I’m a weenie because I’ve been skunked so much this year, but it’s pretty pathetic to model ride for a week and a half and get…this as a result.

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Here is the precip loop from the ECMWF... you can see the activity now around Seattle fades but then comes back later this afternoon for a little while.  

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This picture is my melting snow is oddly satisfying. It perfectly matches the contours of my neighbors' shade.

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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Randy... c-zone is still there on Friday on 12Z ECMWF.   Looks like you might be one of the people getting significant snow that morning.   Keep the plow ready!   

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Randy... c-zone is still there on Friday.   Looks like you will be the only one getting snow that morning.   Keep the plow ready!   

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There is actually a little Pierce county snow there that isn’t terrain bleed.

It’s not gonna happen, of course. Not sure why models have the south end so snowy so consistently while conditions are clearly not conducive for winter precip.

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Another 1/2” before leaving the house. The neighbors at the end of the road were shoveling snow off the flat part of their roof. Looks like some more snow Thursday night. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Based off radar and how much there looks to be right now looks like I’ll end up with 1-2” at home from the CZ! Really saved the day for me. Still snowing at a decent clip at home and looks to continue for a bit. Wish I was at home to experience it but at least there will be some snow on the ground!

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Everett, WA (elev. 180’)

2023-2024 Snowfall:

1/11: Tr.

1/18: Tr.

Go M’s

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All snow! Everything is once again covered in white 🙏

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.

 

Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3"

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6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Randy... c-zone is still there on Friday on 12Z ECMWF.   Looks like you might be one of the people getting significant snow that morning.   Keep the plow ready!   

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That shows me with 6" too!  Not likely but that would put a nice cherry on top of this fading winter. 😀

 

 

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12Z ECMWF still shows snow for the Seattle area and for the Portland area late Friday night into Saturday morning.   Next trough digs down offshore and pulls up moisture and the timing is favorable at night and early morning.    This is very consistent with its 00Z run... but a little less than that run showed in the same time frame.

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z ECMWF still shows snow for the Seattle area and for the Portland area late Friday night into Saturday morning.   Next trough digs down offshore and pulls up moisture and the timing is favorable at night and early morning.    This is very consistent with its 00Z run... but a little less than that run showed in the same time frame.

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Holy shhit 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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In Salem now, looks like an inch in the NE part of town. Plus whatever has melted. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z ECMWF still shows snow for the Seattle area and for the Portland area late Friday night into Saturday morning.   Next trough digs down offshore and pulls up moisture and the timing is favorable at night and early morning.    This is very consistent with its 00Z run... but a little less than that run showed in the same time frame.

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Appears to be all phantom snow in the lowlands based on temps. 

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2 minutes ago, Perturbed Member said:

Appears to be all phantom snow in the lowlands based on temps. 

Maybe, but Salem had 1-2” in the low parts of town and I don’t think SLE ever got below 33-34.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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18 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Randy... c-zone is still there on Friday on 12Z ECMWF.   Looks like you might be one of the people getting significant snow that morning.   Keep the plow ready!   

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Wow!! 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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