SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 RECORD EVENT REPORTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GREAT FALLS MT610 PM MST SAT MAR 2 2019MTZ008>015-044>055-030710-...RECORD COOL MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES FOR MAR 2 IN NORTH CENTRALAND SOUTHWEST MONTANA...LOCATION NEW RECORD OLD RECORD YEAR SET RECORDS BEGANDILLON AIRPORT 1 (TIED) 1 1960 1929GREAT FALLS APT -8 -4 1976 1886HAVRE -10 -5 1891 1880LEWISTOWN APT -12 -8 1960 1896...RECORD COOL MINIMUM TEMPERATURES FOR MAR 2 IN NORTH CENTRALAND SOUTHWEST MONTANA...LOCATION NEW RECORD OLD RECORD YEAR SET RECORDS BEGANHAVRE -27 -23 2002 1880TURNER -33 -23 2002 1948 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Happy one month anniversary of what is left of my snow! Currently 31 after a low of 29. 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat? Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Yeah that's what I am leaning toward too. Sounds awesome out there! We will be hitting 84 Eastbound soon. You going to make it to Redmond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 You going to make it to Redmond?Haven’t decided yet. We are going to head out toward The Dalles first and kind of play it by ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Sunset last night. Some bare patches starting to show on the roof by the bathroom vent. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat? Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Haven’t decided yet. We are going to head out toward The Dalles first and kind of play it by ear.Let me know if you do. Well tho get a brewskie at Wild Ride. Outdoor seating unless they haven’t shoveled the snow out, which I think they haven’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 22F here this morning. Looks like we were one of the coldest spots on the BC coast. Either clouds or wind kept most locations closer to freezing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 The long range GFS is starting to look Jesse-riffic. Sorry Tim. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 The long range GFS is starting to look Jesse-riffic. Sorry Tim. No idea what that evens means. The long range 12Z GFS looks like the 00Z run with a little more progression and not as cold. Some rain would be nice too. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 The scope and intensity of the cold with this event is truly remarkable. A plethora of sub zero readings this morning over a vast area. I saw a number of sub -20 lows for BC, sub -30 for Alberta, and numerous sub -20 in Montana. The coldest I have been able to find for WA so far is bone chilling -11 in Mansfield. Even here it dropped to freezing with a moderate east wind blowing. The only time I have seen that happen in March in the 20 years I've lived here. The cold doesn't bottom out until late tonight. After that the winds quit Monday night thus creating the opportunity for some crazy low temps for places west of the Cascades as well. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 The scope and intensity of the cold with this event is truly remarkable. A plethora of sub zero readings this morning over a vast area. I saw a number of sub -20 lows for BC, sub -30 for Alberta, and numerous sub -20 in Montana. The coldest I have been able to find for WA so far is bone chilling -11 in Mansfield. Even here it dropped to freezing with a moderate east wind blowing. The only time I have seen that happen in March in the 20 years I've lived here. The cold doesn't bottom out until late tonight. After that the winds quit Monday night thus creating the opportunity for some crazy low temps for places west of the Cascades as well. FWIW... the 00Z ECMWF showed the east wind going through Tuesday morning. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 The long range GFS is starting to look Jesse-riffic. Sorry Tim. Maybe this will end being like 1955. It's like Mother Nature is saying what El Nino. Pretty exciting to be in essentially uncharted waters! 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 The long range GFS is starting to look Jesse-riffic. Sorry Tim.Jesse-rific = Andrew-tastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Jesse-rific = Andrew-tastic! Its just another cryptic post from Andrew. There is no real difference from previous runs. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Its just another cryptic post from Andrew. There is no real difference from previous runs.That’s good since I loved the long range 06z! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 That’s good since I loved the long range 06z!Referring to the 00Z runs. I don't do comparisons to the 06Z and 18Z runs. Regardless... I would still like to see more robust fronts and I am not sure when that will actually happen. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Incredible. The GFS now has 850s around -7 over Western WA for pretty much all of next weekend now. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Long range GFS is more progressive, but still cool troughs with some mountain snow every couple of days. Warmer than what we are getting now of course. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Happy one month anniversary of what is left of my snow! Currently 31 after a low of 29. when I drove down here to PDX Friday their was snow still covering the ground just south of Olympia in the tree covered areas. 31* low overnight and currently 35* back in Federal Way with NE wind gusting to 15 (ten minute adverage 2 mph)Brother reported some flurries in La Pine this morning at 15* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Long range GFS is more progressive, but still cool troughs with some mountain snow every couple of days. Warmer than what we are getting now of course.How is that different? And how is that different than what I want to see? I suspect Jesse and I actually want the same thing later this month. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 That’s good since I loved the long range 06z! This is finally what we have been dreaming of! As Phil has alluded to this has been enough of a shakeup it may represent a major regime shift. Great things MAY be much more common for us now. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Be interesting to see what kind of high PDX can pull off. Currently 34 with East winds gusting to 35. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Beautiful morning... bright sunshine and fairly light wind and 35 here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 ENSO warming fast... wonder if this will last? I would prefer it stay closer to neutral through the summer. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Maybe this will end being like 1955. It's like Mother Nature is saying what El Nino. Pretty exciting to be in essentially uncharted waters!Please no. I don’t need a spring that takes forever to warm up followed by a non-summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Everything looks fabulous for tomorrow night. Cold air in place, very dry air in place, offshore gradients drop to very weak, and clear skies expected. We could easily see some places have their lowest March readings at least since 1989. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 34 with a DP of 27. Very nice night under the stars. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Please no. I don’t need a spring that takes forever to warm up followed by a non-summer. August of 1955 was a rare treat. Very dry with well below normal temps. That year was quite an anomaly to say the least. I doubt it will end up being that constantly cold, but we are due for a bunch of cool summers. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Please no. I don’t need a spring that takes forever to warm up followed by a non-summer.Weren’t you complaining very vocally about the hot and dry spring and summer last year too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Weren’t you complaining very vocally about the hot and dry spring and summer last year too?I was complaining mostly about the dryness. If we can have an average to slightly above average spring and summer with more precipitation than normal, that would be ideal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 The subject of summer does bring up an interesting point. I would think a major regime shift could end up including much less dominance of the 4 Corners high during the summers. That feature has been overwhelming for quite some time now during the summer. It has been responsible for the dramatically hotter summers over the entire Western US as compared to pre 1975 norms. On the other hand we could just see the big changes in the other seasons and maintain the hot summers. No way to know right now. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 I was complaining mostly about the dryness. If we can have an average to slightly above average spring and summer with more precipitation than normal, that would be ideal. I am sure even Jim would be crawling out of his skin if it rained most of May, June, and July just to get to a few weeks of decent weather in August. A summer like 1951 was much nicer. No extreme heat and lots of chilly lows but dry for almost all of JJA. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 I was complaining mostly about the dryness. If we can have an average to slightly above average spring and summer with more precipitation than normal, that would be ideal. I'm the opposite. I like dry and cool. Our summer precip is so unimportant in our annual totals anyway. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 The subject of summer does bring up an interesting point. I would think a major regime shift could end up including much less dominance of the 4 Corners high during the summers. That feature has been overwhelming for quite some time now during the summer. It has been responsible for the dramatically hotter summers over the entire Western US as compared to pre 1975 norms. On the other hand we could just see the big changes in the other seasons and maintain the hot summers. No way to know right now.No way to know if we are going to see big changes in any of the seasons, really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 I'm the opposite. I like dry and cool. Our summer precip is so unimportant in our annual totals anyway.Yeah but it seems to be disproportionately important to our native vegetation. A shift in the length of our dry season can have pretty nasty affects. I hate looking at dead trees everywhere, sadly that’s become the norm with all the hot and dry summers lately. Although granted heat stress could be playing just as much of a role as drought stress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Still pretty solid snow cover except where i walked. 2 Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Personally as spring is my favorite season here I just don’t want one like 2010 or 2011 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Personally as spring is my favorite season here I just don’t want one like 2010 or 2011 again.I agree with you that our average springs are quite nice. But there is no denying we have been building up some cold spring karma the last several years. Time will tell if that actually means anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Yeah but it seems to be disproportionately important to our native vegetation. A shift in the length of our dry season can have pretty nasty affects. I hate looking at dead trees everywhere, sadly that’s become the norm with all the hot and dry summers lately. Although granted heat stress could be playing just as much of a role as drought stress. I think it is heat stress. We've had some wet years and very wet winters as Tim would like to point out. But yet we still had die-off's in 2017 for instance. The very hot temps also combined with the lack of marine layer. The trees west of the Cascades are probably used to that cool wet air and the fog drip to help sustain them in summer when there is no rain. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 I think it is heat stress. We've had some wet years and very wet winters as Tim would like to point out. But yet we still had die-off's in 2017 for instance. The very hot temps also combined with the lack of marine layer. The trees west of the Cascades are probably used to that cool wet air and the fog drip to help sustain them in summer when there is no rain. Good points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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