Jesse Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Maybe the quickest shift from #pray4tim to #pray4jesse in forum history.Dynamic new regime we’ve entered! Me likey!Just 7 to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I'm not prepared for this heat... can we rewind a few weeks and enjoy some more snow please?You need a circular fan to help keep cool. It may not work due to rounding errors though. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 PDX was at 69 at 1:53. I could see PDX finally reaching 70 today. Hillsboro too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just 7 to go!For? Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Joking aside it’s actually pretty nice out there. We are lucky since the east wind is holding us in the upper 60s which is just about perfect for a warm day this time of year. Visibility is great too with all of the dry air. I will definitely be ready for some cooler temps and rain by the end of the week, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 SEA is probably going to hit 80. They are at 79 for the last few updates between hours and its still relatively early. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I can’t even make one post criticizing SEA’s warm bias without Tim storming in like Vince McMahon. 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sounder Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 79 at SEA. Hottest March day in history.I didn't realize that the March record for SEA was so low. Pretty impressive in that case. I have to say, aside from just getting personally unlucky by being in PDX for Seattle's big snows last month, the last month and a half of weather here has been absolute perfection in my book. As far as the larger patterns have gone, late winter heading into Spring has played out as if I had picked exactly what I wanted myself. Give me some cooler rainy weather during the next few weeks, then pop us back to around 80 around the start of April, rinse and repeat until June and it's about as close to my ideal climate as I could ask for. Will have to remind myself of this stretch next time I'm ready to jump off the ledge after a snowless January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 A little toasty in my truck when I got in it a bit ago. The “outside” temp is in the back bed/canopy of my truck. It stays nice and cool in there if I have the canopy windows open but everything was still shut tight from the winter. I know many people are hating this weather...I am loving it!! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I like this east wind- just wish it were a bit stronger Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 6722CB24-3186-41AB-8591-C91EE0188BD5.pngOh yeah, Mr. Niño is coming and he’s on ‘roids. The downwelling OKW as of today is one of the most impressive on record at its present longitude. And you know I’m not a super niño hype machine. In fact, most of the time I’m actually trolling CPC and the east coast weenies who are always rooting for niños. But unless there’s a fantastic collapse that obliterates our understanding of the system and defies all historical observations, the odds of a heavy niño in 2019/20 are probably as high as they’ve been since 1997. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 A little toasty in my truck when I got in it a bit ago. The “outside” temp is in the back bed/canopy of my truck. It stays nice and cool in there if I have the canopy windows open but everything was still shut tight from the winter.I know many people are hating this weather...I am loving it!! Those would be new March records at SEA. Absolutely stupendously incredible!! So hard to get record warmth like this these days, we need to really enjoy it when it comes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Back to back 74’s at Astoria. That’s gotta be somethin... Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 PDX down to 68. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 What a weird way to score hottest March SEA day. The ridge is not even that strong??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 What a weird way to score hottest March SEA day. The ridge is not even that strong??? Perfect storm of offshore flow to really maximize things at that specific location. Add in a dash of UHI and a couple new runways and you've got yourself a record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 What a weird way to score hottest March SEA day. The ridge is not even that strong??? Downslope warming on steroids. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Downslope warming on steroids.Wrong side of the mountains... Definitely a very surprising way to score it, 0 expectations and build-up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 What a weird way to score hottest March SEA day. The ridge is not even that strong???That offshore flow is ripping and it has been for he past 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 79 at 3PM update. Still got like a good hour or so left for this thing to peak. I change my mind, SEA will hit 80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Perfect storm of offshore flow to really maximize things at that specific location. Add in a dash of UHI and a couple new runways and you've got yourself a record.Fake record. No, really. I doubt that record would have been set without the 3rd runway and surrounding urbanization. Just a microcosm of the mismanagement of the climate record in this country. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Tim, how far into the 80s is it up at your place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Fake record. No, really. I doubt that record would have been set without the 3rd runway and surrounding urbanization. Just a microcosm of the mismanagement of the climate record in this country. There are stations all around SEA that are in the upper 70s to low 80s right now. Orting is at 80... Federal Way station is at 83... Bonney Lake is at 79... and KRNT is also at 79 just a couple miles away. There is a strong east wind blowing and the maximum warmth is usually at the western extent of the outflow. You just don't understand our microclimates and want to throw out SEA as some outlier when its actually right in line with all the stations around it. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I’m not sure if the third runway is a big a player as it would be with N/NE winds (since the sensor is S/SW of that concrete jungle). And the atmosphere is well mixed so that nullifies the urban effects to some extent. But the conduction of heat into the lower atmosphere via concrete and other low/albedo surfaces with reduced emissivity can still spike temps 2-3 degrees even on windy, well mixed days. I’ve experimented with this effect using a synchrodyne sensor. It’s no joke. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Tim, how far into the 80s is it up at your place? Only 73 here. Too close to the outflow source. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Only 73 here. Too close to the outflow. Embarrassing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Embarrassing. Indeed. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Fake record. No, really. I doubt that record would have been set without the 3rd runway and surrounding urbanization. Just a microcosm of the mismanagement of the climate record in this country. Don't get me wrong I hate the fact that record is being kept at SEA as we've seen several "fake records" before. However, today or yesterday isn't much of an outlier for SEA as there are numerous stations across the Sound that are approaching 80. This is one of those instance where you need to throw UHI out the window and contribute this warmth to the strong East wind. And it has nothing to do with the 3rd runway either (today). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 There is a strong east wind blowing and the maximum warmth is usually at the western extent of the outflow. You just don't understand our microclimates and want to throw out SEA as some outlier when its actually right in line with all the stations around it.I understand downslope warming better than you do..it’s more common here than it is there. I’m sure SEA is “in line” with a multitude of nearby stations near/within downtown Seattle, and stations that are poorly sited. That doesn’t make the record any less artificial. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Got much windier just now. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 The last of the snow that was stacked up from the snowblower on top of the rock wall. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I understand downslope warming better than you do..it’s more common here than it is there. I’m sure SEA is “in line” with a multitude of nearby stations near/within downtown Seattle, and stations that are poorly sited. That doesn’t make the record any less artificial.Enuwclaw is far from SEA and most development and is pushing 80 right now. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Don't get me wrong I hate the fact that record is being kept at SEA as we've seen several "fake records" before. However, today or yesterday isn't much of an outlier for SEA as there are numerous stations across the Sound that are approaching 80. This is one of those instance where you need to throw UHI out the window and contribute this warmth to the strong East wind. And it has nothing to do with the 3rd runway either (today).I’m looking at the NOAA MADIS map and as far as I’m able to see, all of those very high readings are occcurring in stations sited in relatively urban locations. Tim has repeatedly told me that downtown North Bend is often warmer than SEA on downslope days. And and I see are low/mid 70s up there. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sounder Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Trying to decide which is less likely: that it's actually almost 90 degrees on parts of Capitol Hill, or that 4 stations in close proximity are all off by 10 degrees. Both seem unlikely but I'm not home right now to just pop my head outside and confirm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 80 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 And I would argue that many of the old record highs were probably inflated because of poor placement and too much sun exposure. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 80 here.Only because of the massive urban development in your area and all the runways built around your house. Today would have been in the 50s without all of that. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Tense day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Only because of the massive urban development in your area and all the runways built around your house. Today would have been in the 50s without all of that. Without all my annoying neighbors and stuff around here I'd still be getting 35 and wet snow. Gosh darn it. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I’m looking at the NOAA MADIS map and as far as I’m able to see, all of those very high readings are occcurring in stations sited in relatively urban locations. Tim has repeatedly told me that downtown North Bend is often warmer than SEA on downslope days. And and I see are low/mid 70s up there. All depends on the strength of the offshore flow. It will be warmer to the west when the flow is really strong like today. Portland experiences the same thing but they get less downslope warming there overall. Or North Bend can be the hot spot in the state with weak offshore flow and downslope warming. And the discussion about downslope warming in the winter is usually related to night time lows. It can be 30 in Olympia and in the 50s here with an east wind. All about exposure to the east wind and mixing and we are very exposed to the east wind out here. You just don't understand our microclimates... and its more fun to say I am completely making it up because I live at 7,000 feet. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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