Timmy Supercell Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Said it before, I’ll say it again... F*ck you, Tim. Some colors on the forum today! Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Found this at a used book store yesterday. Some pretty awesome pics, many of which I have never seen before. 9B3EC877-3890-4AF9-8B3F-2489D330703C.pngDefinitely one event that gets lost as far as perspective goes. Just from a familiarity perspective, it permanently changed the landscape on the Columbia near Westport, among probably others areas. 3 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swamp Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Very pretty day up in the okanaganlooks awesome, when can the wife and I visit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 OMG downvotes possible!!! Good luck Tim 3 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Definitely one event that gets lost as far as perspective goes. Just from a familiarity perspective, it permanently changed the landscape on the Columbia near Westport, among probably others areas. It changed our landscape in a way no other weather event has since. The number of mudslides in the Coast Range and Western Cascades was incredible. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 OMG downvotes possible!!! Good luck Tim I have had some posts go to full on "POPULAR" status and receive a star recently! As long as I am 100% on board and never say anything less than totally positive... then it's all good. Just follow the censorship line. But not everything will be liked on here when we are talking about weather. Not the way the world works. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 I have had some posts go to full on "POPULAR" status and received a star recently! As long as I am 100% on board and never say anything less than totally positive... then it's all good. Just follow the censorship line. But not everything will be liked on here when we are talking about weather. Not the way the world works.Life goals. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Life goals.It's all silly. I will call it the way I see it... regardless of what people think. Good or bad. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 It's all silly. I will call it the way I see it... regardless of what people think. Good or bad.It isn't necessarily what you say/show, it is how and when you do it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 It isn't necessarily what you say/show, it is how and when you do it. Yeah... as the EPS run is coming out? Wrong time to offer analysis on the EPS. I treat people with respect and offer my own perspective on the models. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Yeah... as the EPS run is coming out? Wrong time to offer analysis. I treat people with respect and offer my own perspective on the models. You are just about the only one that would disagree with my comment. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat? Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Where’s the Dome Fred? Did he get himself banned again? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 The afternoon lull before the druncle disappoints us. 2 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 The afternoon lull before the druncle disappoints us. Hoping for a throwback druncle run. 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Just noticed Medford is 34 with rain at noon. That certainly would feel wintery. 43 with light rain here. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Sunny and 48 here... beautiful day. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 We can no longer see who likes our posts.. A complete mystery 2 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 We can no longer see who likes our posts.. A complete mystery You also can’t retract likes or dislikes. If you accidentally dislike someone’s post... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Medford only 35 as of 1pm and has received 0.41" of rain in the past 3 hours. 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swamp Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Tim doesn't really bother me any more. I just know the models are so flaky and unreliable and he will be here to point that out. When things lock in and it looks like snow he will talk about it for a few posts and then show us that it will be raining in a few days. He's the cold water on your dream. Usually he is right. It's just how it is. It never stays cold for long and it's never easy to get cold. He will tell you all about it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 In terms of overall weather knowledge, Tim has few peers. 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swamp Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 When have the models ever shown anything great 8-10 days out and never wavered? Never. What I like about what I see is that some of the key ingredients will be nearby. Anything can happen. Tim will tell you it won't. If some cold air can build into NW Canada and BC let's say a little slider develops near Vancouver Island and slides down the coast dragging that cold air and some snow with it. Are the models going to show that today? Probably not. Would it deliver some fun. You betcha. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 So sorry about my minor comment on the 12Z EPS. It was completely out of line. I will strive to do better. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swamp Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 The Pacific is an absolute mess right now. Big blobs of high pressure. One to our SW and another up near Alaska. Energy trying to pinch the two off from merging spilling out of Alaska. Once that is resolved we'll have a better idea. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swamp Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 So sorry about my minor comment on the 12Z EPS. It was completely out of line. I will strive to do better. I don't think they are out of line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Snakes Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 My kids are skiing at Bluewood right now. Slope is 11 in of slush and ice, but it isn’t busy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 About to start raining here very shortly. 40 degrees. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 About to start raining here very shortly. 40 degrees. Scratch that, it's flurries and 40. 2 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Raining here. 45F. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 18z GFS is out to -6hrs. Who’s watching this turd sandwich get made. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 18z GFS is out to -6hrs. Whose watching this turd sandwich get made, Me me me!!! Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 If we go Dec-Jan without a sub-40F high, it will be the first time since 1933-34. That one also featured a couple of highs in the 30s at the end of November... 1 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 If we go Dec-Jan without a sub-40F high, it will be the first time since 1933-34. That one also featured a couple of highs in the 30s at the end of November... That was the winter PDX didn't have a freeze lol. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 If we go Dec-Jan without a sub-40F high, it will be the first time since 1933-34. That one also featured a couple of highs in the 30s at the end of November... Yeah, so far my coldest low temperature this season was on Black Friday. 2014-2015 similarity, well except I had more snow already than that winter. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 SEA up to 50. Just a beautiful day with light offshore flow keeping it sunny. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 You also can’t retract likes or dislikes. If you accidentally dislike someone’s post...The drama! Just what this forum needs. 3 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Is your body ready for the doom the druncle is about to bestow upon us? Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Also, the end of the Hawks game is going to coincide with the evening GFS so prepare for a rough evening. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Looks good through 72 hours. Lots of isobars. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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