Alex_Snakes Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 No... we definitely had summer last year. Our last two summers were amazing. I hope we have a repeat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Our last two summers were amazing. I hope we have a repeat. I agree 100%!! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Really hope we have more of a marine influence this summer. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I will definitely be rooting against any back door arctic blast. That just means dry cold. Towards the end of February we would be looking at temps around 40 degrees during the day time. No thank you.I think you are oversimplifying things a little. A pattern like that could bring mountain snow too. Or we could just torch forever I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Really hope we have more of a marine influence this summer. I agree 100%!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I'm 25 days away from giving up on this winter; 46 days from giving up on it astronomically. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlTahoe Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 There have only been two January's in South Lake Tahoe where the average high Temp has exceeded 50F for the month and it was the last two years. We finished this January at 51.87F which is +10.04F above average! Before the last two years the highest I could find was Jan 1986 at 47.3FThis drought/heat wave for the last two years has to be in the 1 in 500 to 1 in 1000 year range at this point. I am still sitting at 3" of snow for the season with no prospects of snow through Feb. Also December 2012 was the last time that we had a month below average. A 25month run and with Feb almost certainly coming in at least +7F above average it will be 26 straight months of above average temps. I wonder how long till we have to consider this a new normal 36months? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 There have only been two January's in South Lake Tahoe where the average high Temp has exceeded 50F for the month and it was the last two years. We finished this January at 51.87F which is +10.04F above average! Before the last two years the highest I could find was Jan 1986 at 47.3FThis drought/heat wave for the last two years has to be in the 1 in 500 to 1 in 1000 year range at this point. I am still sitting at 3" of snow for the season with no prospects of snow through Feb. Also December 2012 was the last time that we had a month below average. A 25month run and with Feb almost certainly coming in at least +7F above average it will be 26 straight months of above average temps. I wonder how long till we have to consider this a new normal 36months?Much ado about nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard mann Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Before I get crucified for this, as much as I love dark and damp weather (and I really do), a small part of me is looking forward to getting this winter and football season behind us and move onto spring and summer. .. Perhaps after a bit more snow pack in the mountains leastwise, son. (?) — Maybe 12-14 inches of rain here more south. ? .. Then you can go out and "fly your kite". Quote --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard mann Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Much ado about nothing. Cosmic. Quote --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 There have only been two January's in South Lake Tahoe where the average high Temp has exceeded 50F for the month and it was the last two years. We finished this January at 51.87F which is +10.04F above average! Before the last two years the highest I could find was Jan 1986 at 47.3FThis drought/heat wave for the last two years has to be in the 1 in 500 to 1 in 1000 year range at this point. I am still sitting at 3" of snow for the season with no prospects of snow through Feb. Also December 2012 was the last time that we had a month below average. A 25month run and with Feb almost certainly coming in at least +7F above average it will be 26 straight months of above average temps. I wonder how long till we have to consider this a new normal 36months? 800" snow winter next year to make up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I agree 100%!!I disagree 100%!! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 800" snow winter next year to make up for it I could honestly see us getting torched into 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 I disagree 100%!!Last summer was one of the hottest on record regionally. Pretty absurd to root for a repeat every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Our last two summers were amazing. I hope we have a repeat. I would love for that to become the norm in our new climate. Cold and snowy winters and long, warm, sunny summers would be perfect. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Last summer was one of the hottest on record regionally. Pretty absurd to root for a repeat every year.Call me absurd! I'll take record heat in the summer and record cold in the winter until the day I die! 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Call me absurd! I'll take record heat in the summer and record cold in the winter until the day I die! Problem is we're missing one half of that equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Problem is we're missing one half of that equation.Life's a *****... Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Life's a *****......but not with pie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Problem is we're missing one half of that equation. Does not mean I want summer to suck as bad as our winters have sucked. Might as well enjoy half of that equation. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Life's a *****.... No it's not. Then you've got the fact that the predominance of one extreme makes the other unlikely. At least looking at the bigger picture. Not NEARLY as many roaster summers during the mid-20th century. No coincidence that the winters were consistently better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 No it's not. Then you've got the fact that the predominance of one extreme makes the other unlikely. At least looking at the bigger picture. Not NEARLY as many roaster summers during the mid-20th century. No coincidence that the winters were consistently better.I heard somewheres the 50's and '60's were pretty chilly willy. Flatiron could probably tell you more about and how 2006 to present is a spittin' image. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I don't remember many record hot days, just a lot of sunny days. There weren't a lot of record hot days. It was just consistently warm and humid with mild nights. I actually hope we have a summer with more record hot individual days next year. Would likely mean more flow reversals and less stagnant, muggy airmasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I heard somewheres the 50's and '60's were pretty chilly willy. Flatiron could probably tell you more about and how 2006 to present is a spittin' image. No doubt he would try. 2013 and 2014 make that a hard sell, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 ...but not with pie!3.14159265359% of the population agrees! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 No doubt he would try. 2013 and 2014 make that a hard sell, though.So would ~1958. You're still wonky, kiddo. Roll with it. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 So would ~1958. You're still wonky, kiddo. Roll with it. Thinking 1958 might be a good analog for this upcoming summer. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 So would ~1958. You're still wonky, kiddo. Roll with it. Devils need advocating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Devils need advocating!Just trying to help you see that big, warm forest through all those trees. We'll get through this, champ! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Just trying to help you see that big, warm forest through all those trees. We'll get through this, champ! So you think this 2006-present period has been comparable to the 50s and 60s? News to me. I think you just like disagreeing with people. That keeps coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 So you think this 2006-present period has been comparable to the 50s and 60s? News to me. I think you just like disagreeing with people. That keeps coming up.No, I never said that. He thinks so, though. That's why I said that. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted February 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 No, I never said that. He thinks so, though. That's why I said that. 2008 and 2011 at OLM! Chilly springs! November cold spells! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 No, I never said that. He thinks so, though. That's why I said that. What was the purpose of the 1958 comment, then? It seemed to be an attempt at drawing some sort of parallel so that I could at last bask in the light of your wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 That ridge is progged to cover some serious longitude in the LR #polewardmasstransfer http://catchmypicture.com/f/tQRZat/1024.jpg Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I really doubt this summer is as hot as the past two. Someone mentioned spring of 2005 early. Wow that was a glorious first half of march. Then there was six weeks of rain. I could totally see a repeat. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 That ridge is progged to cover some serious longitude in the LR #polewardmasstransfer http://catchmypicture.com/f/tQRZat/1024.jpg good lord lol 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I took this picture over the weekend. It's on the southern end of the Blue Mountains. On a normal January 31st, there would be plenty of snow on the ground. On the positive side I saw lots of fawns, so hopefully that's indicative of a high survival rate. http://s14.postimg.org/keflpltwx/IMG_20150131_170037.jpgI guess there is a silver lining in everything. More deer and elk surviving to feed a growing wolf population. At my place my pasture grass is already growing. Less feed to buy for the sheep. Plenty of firewood to get through the winter. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 It's like we're right back in 2013-14. I'm starting to fear another non-spring here. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 What was the purpose of the 1958 comment, then? It seemed to be an attempt at drawing some sort of parallel so that I could at last bask in the light of your wisdom.Come on, you're smarter than this. Do you think there might have been a 20-something weenie back then overreacting to the state of affairs in 1958? Obviously our climate is warmer now overall but there are similarities between the periods. The overall point is just that you are still overreacting. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Come on, you're smarter than this. Do you think there might have been a 20-something weenie back then overreacting to the state of affairs in 1958? Obviously our climate is warmer now overall but there are similarities between the periods. The overall point is just that you are still overreacting. There is a razor-thin line between overreacting and underreacting according to you, and its name is Matt Deweydog. It's ok. I think everybody has their own degree of "my opinion is the only valid opinion" bias. Although perhaps it is more common in lawyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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