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2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Usually it’s either one or the other. Pick your favorite!

Something something 1985 something hot dogs something

Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 56.25"

-- Lake City, Seattle (LC) --

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24: 0.25"

-2024-25: 4.75"

-- Ballard, Seattle (B) --

-2025-26: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; March 13th, 2026 (B)

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 (LC)

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 (LC)

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 (LC)

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 (LC)

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36 minutes ago, MossMan said:

I want my cake and slowly lick that plate clean as well…How about an amazingly sunny and warm July thru September and then a 49/50 repeat starting in October. 

Was October 1949 dry or wet? It seemed like a lot of the time we had a dry October in the PNW the winter was so-so or at best had average snow. I know November 1949 was top tier warm. As was 2016/1995 and a couple others I'm trying to remember. 

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Up here it's tough to beat how consistently cold 1948-49 was. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2025-26: 7.5"

2024-25: 21.0"

2023-24: 39.5"                   2023-24: 76.88

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 73.43"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

15 minutes ago, Timmy Supercell said:

Was October 1949 dry or wet? It seemed like a lot of the time we had a dry October in the PNW the winter was so-so or at best had average snow. I know November 1949 was top tier warm. As was 2016/1995 and a couple others I'm trying to remember. 

Good question! Jim needs to chime in

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

21 minutes ago, Phil said:

Usually it’s either one or the other. Pick your favorite!

They are both my favorite. 

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

Here at least, precip was pretty much average in October 1949. Most of the precip that month fell between the 5-11th. That must have been a pretty cold trough because we had sub-40 highs with it. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2025-26: 7.5"

2024-25: 21.0"

2023-24: 39.5"                   2023-24: 76.88

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 73.43"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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14 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Here at least, precip was pretty much average in October 1949. Most of the precip that month fell between the 5-11th. That must have been a pretty cold trough because we had sub-40 highs with it. 

October 1949 was not too wet here... but it was cold with numerous frosty nights.   And then it was in the low 70s in early November.  

I need to see a super Nina form first.   And even then there are many ways it can fail.    

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So it’s coming?

My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad.

7 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

So it’s coming?

January 2023

2026-2027 cold season stats 

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Coldest min-41

 

                       

 

1 minute ago, TacomaWx said:

January 2023

Phil’s January track record is rouph.?

My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad.

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

Phil’s January track record is rouph.?

Isn’t that your call though? Or did you mean January 2023 in the DC swamps

2026-2027 cold season stats 

Coldest max-60

Coldest min-41

 

                       

 

1 minute ago, TacomaWx said:

Isn’t that your call though? Or did you mean January 2023 in the DC swamps

It gives me good feels.

My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad.

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

It gives me good feels.

MLK 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023

1 hour ago, MossMan said:

Good question! Jim needs to chime in

Here's your chime.

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Ended up with an 80/51 day here with some brief morning clouds then bright blazing sunshine. 

Summer ☀️ grows while Winter ❄️  goes

1 minute ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Ended up with an 80/51 day here with some brief morning clouds then bright blazing sunshine. 

Looks like 74/47 up herrrrr.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2025-26: 7.5"

2024-25: 21.0"

2023-24: 39.5"                   2023-24: 76.88

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 73.43"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

Is that a preference you are stating?    

Nah just an observation of what the models show.  Variability is a good thing for everyone.

21 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

MLK 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023

Hey, 2020 almost totally worked out.

My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad.

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1 minute ago, GHweatherChris said:

Nah just an observation of what the models show.  Variability is a good thing for everyone.

I think you are stating another preference.  Nothing that happens is good or bad.   Its all neutral.  

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6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Looks like 74/47 up herrrrr.

Hopefully this will end up being the       warmest day of the week 

Summer ☀️ grows while Winter ❄️  goes

Crazy it’s the last evening of June. Looks like the month will end up about a degree above average at PDX. Still haven’t had a below average one there since 2012. Maybe someday we will get a cool June again.

Summer ☀️ grows while Winter ❄️  goes

4 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Crazy it’s the last evening of June. Looks like the month will end up about a degree above average at PDX. Still haven’t had a below average one there since 2012. Maybe someday we will get a cool June again.

Well someday when we compare it to the 2011-2040 averages it will look cool!

Snowfall                                  Precip

2025-26: 7.5"

2024-25: 21.0"

2023-24: 39.5"                   2023-24: 76.88

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 73.43"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

7 hours ago, Timmy Supercell said:

Stayton in 2020 ?

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That was after the smoke lifted.. At 9am it was dark as night with ash falling. It was surreal

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Well someday when we compare it to the 2011-2040 averages it will look cool!

Hard to fathom how dystopian our climate will be at that point. 

Summer ☀️ grows while Winter ❄️  goes

14 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Hey, 2020 almost totally worked out.

Dewness Index peaks on January 24. The last time we had measurable snow fall on that date here was in 1954 (although 2009 missed it by maybe a couple hours).

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PDX ended up with almost 200% of normal rainfall for June.   Tragic month.   

And was it also the wettest April - June on record?

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14 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I think you are stating another preference.  Nothing that happens is good or bad.   Its all neutral.  

Still not a preference, try again.  There is literally something for everyone over the next week currently showing in the models, I thought this was a safe place to talk about what the models are showing, or is it not now because they don't show what you want.....  I am confused.  Weather does not schedule it's outcome to appease certain dates, it's gonna happen regardless, just enjoy what you can and move on.  Good luck.

5 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Dewness Index peaks on January 24. The last time we had measurable snow fall on that date here was in 1954 (although 2009 missed it by maybe a couple hours).

It will NOT occur in 2023. 2024 doesn’t look good either.

My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad.

6 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Hard to fathom how dystopian our climate will be at that point. 

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2026: MossMan
2024: SilverFallsAndrew
2023: Gradient Keeper
2022: Gradient Keeper (DJ Droppin)
2021: Tom

BUILD THE 8000 FT WALL ALONG THE WEST COAST. STOP THE MARINE LAYER INVASION.

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2026: MossMan
2024: SilverFallsAndrew
2023: Gradient Keeper
2022: Gradient Keeper (DJ Droppin)
2021: Tom

BUILD THE 8000 FT WALL ALONG THE WEST COAST. STOP THE MARINE LAYER INVASION.

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9 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said:

Still not a preference, try again.  There is literally something for everyone over the next week currently showing in the models, I thought this was a safe place to talk about what the models are showing, or is it not now because they don't show what you want.....  I am confused.  Weather does not schedule it's outcome to appease certain dates, it's gonna happen regardless, just enjoy what you can and move on.  Good luck.

You should not state preferences Chris.   Variability is a preference.   Nature is preference-neutral.   Please keep preferences out of your posts.    ?  

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00Z GFS is such a tease.    But look at PDX rocking upper 70s and everyone is loving life on the 4th.    Well almost everyone.  

 

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9 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

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Yes the world warming up and climate change is just a figment of our imagination because Al gore and a couple people over exaggerated how rapidly it would happen. It definitely is a real thing and a few decades from now it probably won’t be a joke…the fact it’s even a debate is absolutely comical. 

2026-2027 cold season stats 

Coldest max-60

Coldest min-41

 

                       

 

1 minute ago, TacomaWx said:

Yes the world warming up and climate change is just a figment of our imagination because Al gore and a couple people over exaggerated how rapidly it would happen. It definitely is a real thing and a few decades from now it probably won’t be a joke…the fact it’s even a debate is absolutely comical. 

The funniest fucking thing is that ensemble means from rudimentary primitive climate models from the early 1980s are verifying almost perfectly... If anything they've underdone warming after 2000.

Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 56.25"

-- Lake City, Seattle (LC) --

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24: 0.25"

-2024-25: 4.75"

-- Ballard, Seattle (B) --

-2025-26: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; March 13th, 2026 (B)

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 (LC)

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 (LC)

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 (LC)

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 (LC)

11 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

The funniest fucking thing is that ensemble means from rudimentary primitive climate models from the early 1980s are verifying almost perfectly... If anything they've underdone warming after 2000.

To which primitive models are you referring?

Almost all of the projections have overestimated warming under scenarios most similar to the observed GHG increases (particularly in the tropical upper troposphere, which is where the greatest thermalization of intercepted LWR will occur under any positive H2O feedback scenario).

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17 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

The funniest ******* thing is that ensemble means from rudimentary primitive climate models from the early 1980s are verifying almost perfectly... If anything they've underdone warming after 2000.

One side of the political spectrum seems to be obsessed with forced moral outrage over climate change.   That pushes the other side away.   The fact is that the Earth goes through cycles all the time.   The medieval warm period was followed by the little ice age and now its warming again.   So part of it is natural.    But the AOCs of the world do more to hurt the cause rather than help with the histrionics about the world ending in 10 years.   Because it won't.    Alligators once lived in the arctic and we are all still here.   Life on Earth absolutely thrived when it was much warmer than it is now.    

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25 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

You should not state preferences Chris.   Variability is a preference.   Nature is preference-neutral.   Please keep preferences out of your posts.    ?  

Nice try, enjoy the weekend.

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2 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said:

Nice try, enjoy the weekend.

We will definitely enjoy it.     And my last post was pure sarcasm. ?

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