Anti Marine Layer Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 They are proposing to end Daylight Saving Time, and it looks like most Californians would favor it. Shame on these people. Maybe up north where summer days are longer, it would be OK, but down in Southern California I really think it would suck to have sunset no later than 7:05 pm in June and sunrise as early as 4:40 am. If they think the time change causes problems, I would say keep it on Daylight Saving Time year round. I really hate it getting dark before 5:00 pm in November when we typically still have warm and sunny days. With Standard Time year round, half the summer would be getting dark before 6:30 pm. Still I would like to keep it the way it is as we can look forward to brighter evenings in spring and don't have to wake up in the dark in winter. Yes, the early sunsets are no fun, but the days are short no matter what time you are on. Don't end Daylight Saving Time. Tell your friends to vote against it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I am always for maintaining tradition. I would be terribly disappointed if they did away with daylight savings time up here. It's pretty cool to have it still fairly light at 10pm here. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Ending daylight savings is a one-way ticket to higher sun angles. Vote no! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happ Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Longitude-wide, SoCal is comparable to Nevada/ Idaho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Weatherman Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I wouldn't mind seeing Daylight Saving Time year round, since we spend the majority of the year with DST anyway from March to November. I don't like it getting dark just before 5 p.m. because it just doesn't feel right for the evening rush hour to occur when it is dark and it tends to be harder to see in those conditions when driving. I would rather for it to get dark at 6 instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 If we stop switching I want to be on DST all year...we are already on it for 8 months out of the year. Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 If we stop switching I want to be on DST all year...we are already on it for 8 months out of the year. It wouldn't work up here. It would get light at 9am in December. Dangerous for the kids walking to school. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 It wouldn't work up here. It would get light at 9am in December. Dangerous for the kids walking to school.Life is dangerous Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 I think it is kind of stupid to do the time change on Sunday. They should do it on Saturday. That way both days of the weekend would be the same. It also gives you 2 days to adjust before going back to work on Monday. Also, for the people who go to church on Sunday, it would be a lot less likely for them to be one hour early or one hour late if they forget about the time change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Life is dangerous True...but I kind of like how early it gets dark in December. I hope they leave it like it is. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Why only for California?? This would cause MORE problems than we already have. If this were for the whole west coast, go ahead I'm all for it. It'd be really weird to have a "California Time" and then have PDT/PST differ by an hour. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Why only for California?? This would cause MORE problems than we already have. If this were for the whole west coast, go ahead I'm all for it. It'd be really weird to have a "California Time" and then have PDT/PST differ by an hour.Plus it might somehow make it snow more. And nobody wants that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Sunrise is later today than the latest sunrise time in Standard Time, but no sunset tonight until 6:57 PM. Hope you all remembered to spring forward, as the board clocks have not yet done so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Sunrise is later today than the latest sunrise time in Standard Time, but no sunset tonight until 6:57 PM. Hope you all remembered to spring forward, as the board clocks have not yet done so. Not in Seattle. Sunrise today was at 7:23 and the latest sunrise of the year is 7:58 between 12/29 and 1/4, Although its odd that the latest sunrise is well after the shortest day of the year. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Not in Seattle. Sunrise today was at 7:23 and the latest sunrise of the year is 7:58 between 12/29 and 1/4, Although its odd that the latest sunrise is well after the shortest day of the year.It's for the same reason the latest sunset is between 6/23 and 6/27. A week or so after the longest day of the year. The sunsets continue to get later in the couple weeks following the summer solstice, while the sunrises get later in the two weeks following the winter solstice. On the flip side of things, the earliest sunset happens a few weeks before the winter solstice, while the earliest sunrise happens a few weeks before the summer solstice. It's actually all quite balanced. Nothing strange about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I say we change Spring Forward to be on the first Saturday (not Sunday) in spring and make the Monday after the time change be a national holiday. That way people have more time to adjust. However, America is way too much of a workaholic country to do that. They don't even give us the day after Easter off. Also in today's "politically correct" society, it may be offensive to some to have a holiday for Easter, but the Monday of spring should be OK with everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 It's for the same reason the latest sunset is between 6/23 and 6/27. A week or so after the longest day of the year. The sunsets continue to get later in the couple weeks following the summer solstice, while the sunrises get later in the two weeks following the winter solstice. On the flip side of things, the earliest sunset happens a few weeks before the winter solstice, while the earliest sunrise happens a few weeks before the summer solstice. It's actually all quite balanced. Nothing strange about it. No... it is sort of strange. Of course its balanced but not in the way you would expect. You would think the shortest day of the year would have the latest sunrise and earliest sunset. And vice versa on the longest the day of the year. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 No... it is sort of strange. Of course its balanced but not in the way you would expect. You would think the shortest day of the year would have the latest sunrise and earliest sunset. And vice versa on the longest the day of the year.Blame geometry. I figured you always liked the fact that the sunsets start getting later before the winter solstice. That is prime trolling material! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Blame geometry. I figured you always liked the fact that the sunsets start getting later before the winter solstice. That is prime trolling material! I knew it happened. Just don't quite understand why. Or why the sunrise gets later after the winter solstice. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I knew it happened. Just don't quite understand why. Or why the sunrise gets later after the winter solstice. It's called the Equation of Time, or the difference between clock time and sun time. Solar noon is not the same time throughout the year so even the equator has an earliest/latest sunrise/sunset. The effect is biggest in winter as solar noon goes from 16 1/2 minutes early around Nov. 3 to 14 1/2 late around Feb. 11. The two factor that cause it are Earth's elliptical orbit and the tilt of the Earth. Check out analemma.com or Google Equation of Time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 It's called the Equation of Time, or the difference between clock time and sun time. Solar noon is not the same time throughout the year so even the equator has an earliest/latest sunrise/sunset. The effect is biggest in winter as solar noon goes from 16 1/2 minutes early around Nov. 3 to 14 1/2 late around Feb. 11. The two factor that cause it are Earth's elliptical orbit and the tilt of the Earth. Check out analemma.com or Google Equation of Time. Thanks... very interesting. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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