December 2016 Observations and Model Discussion for the Pacific Northwest

[Weather101]

I am reporting what the models show. Likely won't be widespread. C-zones areas are probably the best. Mt Vernon to North Bend.

 

You chose to live in Covington after living here all your life. I watched the weather here for a year from San Diego and knew the good snow spots in King County. Also thought I would like rain. My bad.

 

Got the snow part right though. If its so important then definitely pick wisely.

Yo guys I got 5 inches so far

[TT-SEA]

Way too early to say if any, many, or all areas will see snow at the end of this week.

Playing the odds too.

[Front Ranger]

You have too admit this entire two week period has been a dissapointment for King County. All of that potential wasted. Having us warm up before most of the precip arrives is even more tragic.

 

So you got nothing that night bbkid got 3.5"?

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Some nice overrunning the morning after though.

[Front Ranger]

Yo guys I got 5 inches so far

 

How much snowfall do you have so far this season? Your signature is from 2014.

[Weather101]

How much snowfall do you have so far this season? Your signature is from 2014.

Thanks I forgot to change! And 11 inches

[HighlandExperience]

So you got nothing that night bbkid got 3.5"?

We hardly had anything. An inch at best!!

[Bryant]

Yo guys I got 5 inches so far

Salt in the wound

[Deweydog]

Best Xmas Skiing in many years coming up.

[TT-SEA]

Best Xmas Skiing in many years coming up.

Last year was pretty awesome too.

[Deweydog]

Last year was pretty awesome too.

True...

[snow_wizard]

The 18z continues the improving trend around Christmas. Nice GOA ridge / SE ridge setup in the 5 to 10 day period. Sad thing I've been so right about this winter so far and yet have almost nothing to show for it.

[snow_wizard]

Yo guys I got 5 inches so far

I'm so happy for you. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

[snow_wizard]

You have too admit this entire two week period has been a dissapointment for King County. All of that potential wasted. Having us warm up before most of the precip arrives is even more tragic.

No doubt we have been totally f ucked here. I'm still happy about the big picture though.

[TT-SEA]

Picking up kids at Snoqualmie Summit right now and car thermometer says 32 and its slushy. Warming up.

[Perturbed Member]

Been a emotional day.. First time in 27 years i went and picked a Christmas tree without my woman but me and my son made the best of it and had a good time. Its been a real test as a father dealing with all this. Dont want to sound like a wimp but life is so short. All who have a wife or significant other go give them a hug and spend every second with them like its the last!!

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Best wishes to you this Christmas season. Nothing wimpy sounding about that at all, it really is important to make the most of the time you have with those you care about because it won't last forever. 

[snow_wizard]

I am reporting what the models show. Likely won't be widespread. C-zones areas are probably the best. Mt Vernon to North Bend.

 

You chose to live in Covington after living here all your life. I watched the weather here for a year from San Diego and knew the good snow spots in King County. Also thought I would like rain. My bad.

 

Got the snow part right though. If its so important then definitely pick wisely.

I have admitted many times I screwed up when I chose this area. There weren't nearly as many resources for doing climate research when I chose to move here. That having been said there are setups that treat this area very well, and some winters are big. Just hasn't happened recently.

[TT-SEA]

I have admitted many times I screwed up when I chose this area. There weren't nearly as many resources for doing climate research when I chose to move here. That having been said there are setups that treat this area very well, and some winters are big. Just hasn't happened recently.

You lived here... you could just drive around and see it in person.

[Deweydog]

You lived here... you could just drive around and see it in person.

Jesus Christ, Tim. Give it a rest.

[HighlandExperience]

The Willamette Valley has kicked our a$$es the past several years now (starting with the March 2012 event). Looks really cold and snowy there.

True, I'd still never choose to live down there.

[dairyd]

Why would freezing weather in December hurt the crops?   The crops doing pretty good in the Midwest and its much colder for much longer.  

 

News just broke that over 1/2 of the plains wheat crop has winterkill damage.  That probably means a lot of alfalfa was killed further north as well, particularly where they had wetter than normal areas ahead of the cold blast. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

True, I'd still never choose to live down there.

I would never live in Seattle. Bellingham or Olympia perhaps

[SilverFallsAndrew]

News just broke that over 1/2 of the plains wheat crop has winterkill damage. That probably means a lot of alfalfa was killed further north as well, particularly where they had wetter than normal areas ahead of the cold blast.

Wow that sucks. Maybe typically there is more snow cover which would insulate them?

[HighlandExperience]

I would never live in Seattle. Bellingham or Olympia perhaps

It is expensive up here. I just love seeing Puget Sound and the Olympic Mountains though. Seattle is more cosmopolitan to me. Portland has its charm at times.

[TT-SEA]

It is expensive up here. I just love seeing Puget Sound and the Olympic Mountains though. Seattle is more cosmopolitan to me. Portland has its charm at times.

 

 

I do like the water and the mountains up here... its all around you in King County.    

[dairyd]

Wow that sucks. Maybe typically there is more snow cover which would insulate them?

 

That can partially help but it comes down to whether it can protect the crown from freezing.  If that has emerged from the ground then it is only a matter of time if it is covered in snow when it freezes.  Once the crown freezes, the plant no longer has growth control and dies soon after. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Going to be interesting to see if the nws forcast holds tonight. Rain developing with not even a hint of snow. Meanwhile its 32 here and calm. Abservvations i use on the east side of Olympics say the column will support snow here. Time will tell.

[luminen]

Been snowing non-stop here since midnight. Holding steady at 31F.

[Kayla]

Hmmm, airmass has not moderated hardly at all today in the Gorge. The Dalles is currently sitting at 16º dp 12º. 12z models had them up into the upper 20's by now.

 

I smell a messy commute tomorrow morning for the PDX area before the changeover. 

[Front Ranger]

Euro ensemble mean at day 10.

 

[Deweydog]

Hmmm, airmass has not moderated hardly at all today in the Gorge. The Dalles is currently sitting at 16º dp 12º. 12z models had them up into the upper 20's by now.

 

I smell a messy commute tomorrow morning for the PDX area before the changeover.

If the spigot were turned on that would definitely be the case.

[Front Ranger]

There continues to be a strong signal for NE Pacific blocking and SE ridge for the end of the year.

 

 

[Kayla]

If the spigot were turned on that would definitely be the case.

 

You lost me at spigot. Mine is still frozen. 

[Deweydog]

You lost me at spigot. Mine is still frozen.

The gorge one is too.

[The Swamp]

It has warmed to 41 degrees here today.

 

Sadly, unless there is some wet bulb cooling with the moisture, I think it is likely to be rain in the swamp.

[HighlandExperience]

I do like the water and the mountains up here... its all around you in King County.

Agreed. It is very magical driving west on 90 seeing Puget Sound and the Olympic mountains glistening white. Reminds me of Scandinavia. Very unique.

[snow_wizard]

There continues to be a strong signal for NE Pacific blocking and SE ridge for the end of the year.

 

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True, I'd still never choose to live down there.

No question there is great promise. My New Years prediction is still looking decent.

[snow_wizard]

True, I'd still never choose to live down there.

In the long run we get more snow than them anyway. Still doesn't change the fact we are on an epic roll of failure here.

[snow_wizard]

It is expensive up here. I just love seeing Puget Sound and the Olympic Mountains though. Seattle is more cosmopolitan to me. Portland has its charm at times.

Seattle has gotten so absurdly liberal I wouldn't live there in a million years. They police your garbage for crying out loud. That and the fact the city proper has a totally loser climate.

[Parksvillewx]

Warmed up to 34.7F here today. Dry all day and cloudy. Hoping some heavy precip arrives soon, might squeak some heavy wet snow out of it before the rain.