Niko Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 This storm will give me rain and mild temps. What a strange January this has been so far. I have a shot at 50s next week. Unreal! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 St Louis currently at 70° and under a Winter Storm Watch for up to 0.5" of ice starting tomorrow night. Wild stuff.Crazy! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 GFS farther west/stronger with the HP so far..low is weaker though by about 1-2 mb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 and slightly further S with 540 thicknesses Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 The low explodes though and it's pretty warm because of how strong it is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 and slightly further S with 540 thicknessesHeavy defo band of sleet/ snow along platte river, that's a good sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Yep-- warmer and more NW with ice is my guess Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 GFS has consistently being running on the warm side with this -- the opposite with the EURO-- something has to give. Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Lots of snow for central Nebraska, I hope the the gfs is too warm, this could be a hell of a snowstorm for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 GFS Snow: http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2017011200/120/snku_024h.us_c.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 GFS Ice: http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2017011200/120/zr_acc.us_mw.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Looks like lots of sleet forvhere I'd assume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Nightmare city............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 GFS has consistently being running on the warm side with this -- the opposite with the EURO-- something has to give. If the GFS is even a degree or two off, that's a lot of ice in WI/IA. Looks like a lot of the precip falls when it's 33/34 degrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 I'm separated by 20 miles of 11" of snow or 3/4 inch ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Snowlover76 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 I'm separated by 20 miles of 11" of snow or 3/4 inch ice.Heaviest snow is always by the mix line. Gotta smell the rain to get the best snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 If the GFS is even a degree or two off, that's a lot of ice in WI/IA. Looks like a lot of the precip falls when it's 33/34 degreesEven if air temp is 34, ground temps are colder and more icing will occur. We had that happen Tuesday here. Air temp was 36, but lots of ice on roads because of the ground temps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 CentralNeb has been MIA...hope he gets his big snow out of this and those in NE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 GEM: http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2017011200/gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_16.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2017011200/gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_17.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2017011200/gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_18.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Reading most AFD's they say the GFS is too warm at the surface and feel the Euro is going to be more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 GEM: http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2017011200/gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_16.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2017011200/gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_17.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2017011200/gem_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_18.pngIs it me or is this coming in stronger?? That's a healthy comma head by both models tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 GEM hammers gosaints area with snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 GEM 1 foot+ from central/northern NE, SE SD, N. Iowa, southern MN, central/NC WI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 GEM would not be good for a lot of areas. Hope it's too cold, because this would be a devastating ice storm in many areas if it's right.. (will post maps once storm's done. Out through hr 90 right now) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 GEM: http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2017011200/126/snku_acc.us_mw.png http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2017011200/126/snku_acc.us_c.png Freezing Rain: http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2017011200/126/zr_acc.us_c.png http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2017011200/126/zr_acc.us_mw.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 GEM: http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2017011200/126/snku_acc.us_mw.png http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2017011200/126/snku_acc.us_c.png Freezing Rain: http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2017011200/126/zr_acc.us_c.png http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2017011200/126/zr_acc.us_mw.pngThe thermal profile is all messed up on that model. it show 3" of snow for me, no ice and an inch of precip. This will be a nightmare of a forecast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Total qpf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Is the rest sleet?! The thermal profile is all messed up on that model. it show 3" of snow for me, no ice and an inch of precip. This will be a nightmare of a forecast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Not sure if the freezing rain maps include sleet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 The thermal profile is all messed up on that model. it show 3" of snow for me, no ice and an inch of precip. This will be a nightmare of a forecast. It's showing quite a bit of sleet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Purple is sleet: http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2017011200/102/prateptype.us_mw.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Not sure if the freezing rain maps include sleet....That would be negative, ghost Rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Ukie is slower.-- Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 I think the reason why WI/MN has more snow this run is because of the increase in snowcover? I know Wausau has 12+ on the ground from the last 2 days, and same can be said in central/western WI and I know MN got hit pretty good also. You can kind of see it in the temps on the GEM: http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2017011200/114/sfct.us_mw.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintbeed1993 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Please no sleet. That's a complete slap in the face for a snowlover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 The GFS looks like it's the warmest so far. From what I know it usually has issues with lower level cold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Please no sleet. That's a complete slap in the face for a snowlover. I would take sleet over freezing rain any day of the week. Barely had any today and it was still a pain in the a** to drive in 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Being that this system will be so challenging thermally for the models-- I would lay my $$ on the superior physics of the Euro. I know it has not worked out great this winter,,, but lets wait and see on this cocktail. 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 Still a WIDE range of solutions on the GEFS: http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2017011200/gfs-ememb_lowlocs_us_18.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2017011200/gfs-ememb_lowlocs_us_20.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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