Phil Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 I really hate alder trees in general... they are so messy. They actually start dropping leaves in June whenever there are a couple warm days. I was looking at some pictures from one year ago this week and the alder trees here were already brown and close to bare. They were heading that way this year as well in late August but the recent rain and completely stopped the leaf drop and they look green again. I assume this is good sign for fall color in this area. Could be quite a show now that everything is so well watered again. We are already approaching peak color as the drought as caused the trees to turn weeks ahead of time this year. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Driving from Florence to Eugene on Friday, it looked like mid-October from a color perspective, all the trees had turned. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 We are already approaching peak color as the drought as caused the trees to turn weeks ahead of time this year. I am guessing a late October peak here as usual. There are just a few trees starting to show color. We had some yellow leaves on the trees in late August but they have since blown off and the rain has made it look much greener again. For comparison... here is 10/27 last year: Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 18z shows offshore flow and temps in the mid-upper 80s on Friday. Marky Mark also has 85 on two days this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 When was the last time the Browns won the Super Bowl? Or even been? Or won a playoff game? To not be a fan of the local team is one thing, but to insult them is just classless, especially from a fan of a team that has never even been to the Bowl, not even once. To make it worse, they are located in Cleveland. That is an insult in itself. Lots of snow in Cleveland!! Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Forekast Kontest! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 We are already approaching peak color as the drought as caused the trees to turn weeks ahead of time this year.Was gonna say, seems like it's shaping up to be one of the earlier peaks I can remember. Drought sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 I have the same problem with anthracnose decimating a couple of London plane trees here in SoCal -- and it certainly isn't because of humidity. They've already lost most of their leaves, and autumn (or what passes for autumn in SoCal) is still a long way off.Interesting. Do you know what cultivar you have? The anthracose attacks are less of an issue for our trees during hot/dry summers like 2012. This year is easily the worst I’ve ever seen it. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Not much of a fall leaf changeover here yet. The Cedars are starting to shed but that’s right on schedule. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 FWIW, global lower-middle tropospheric temperatures are currently the coldest (for the date) since 2008, which was coming off a strong La Niña. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Forekast Kontest!Eye’m downe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Not much of a fall leaf changeover here yet. The Cedars are starting to shed but that’s right on schedule.Our big cedar tree just dumped a large amount of needles on our driveway during the weekend storminess. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Not much of a fall leaf changeover here yet. The Cedars are starting to shed but that’s right on schedule.Just took this pic... grass along the roads sure has greened up here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Eye’m downe!I'd put it together but I'm busy AF. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Just took this pic... grass along the roads sure has greened up here.Same here. This pic was taken this morning at the end of my driveway. And yeah the only traffic was the deer traffic! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Well... the 00Z GFS took away most of the meaningful precip later in the weekend and next week. Some rain in WA on Sunday but not much at all in Oregon. The 00Z GEM abandoned its wet solution for Sunday/Monday as well. The 00Z ICON is much more robust with the offshore low early next week but the precip mostly stays offshore through 180 hours. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Well... the 00Z GFS took away most of the meaningful precip later in the weekend and next week. Some rain in WA on Sunday but not much at all in Oregon. The 00Z GEM abandoned its wet solution for Sunday/Monday as well. The 00Z ICON is much more robust with the offshore low early next week but the precip mostly stays offshore through 180 hours.In other news, no good developments. Thanks Tim for the great news! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 In other news, no good developments. Thanks Tim for the great news!Well... its good news for those of us who have received copious rain this month and know what lies ahead soon enough. For reference... its the blue and purple areas on this map. No surprise. Always the same area. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Well... its good news for those of us who have received copious rain this month and know what lies ahead soon enough. For reference... its the blue and purple areas on this map. No surprise. Always the same area. Well...I’m not in one of those areas. In fact some would argue that Victoria is still in drought. I am not happy about this development, but the model riding goes on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Well...I’m not in one of those areas. In fact some would argue that Victoria is still in drought. I am not happy about this development, but the model riding goes on. I wish the map showed southern BC as well. I can tell from the San Juan Islands that shadowing has been more persistent than usual there... red dots of dry surrounded by a large area of very wet. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 I wish the map showed southern BC as well. I can tell from the San Juan Islands that shadowing has been more persistent than usual there... red dots of dry surrounded by a large area of very wet.Yes it has been. Very boring for me and very unhealthy for all the plant life living round town. The NW flow never helps us in victoria. Furthermore, it’s absolute blowtorch time on the 00Z clownrange. Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 We got our month of cooler than average weather with a handful of rainy days. Now we must pay our dues with another 3-4 months of torching and systems that underperform everywhere but the Snoqualmie Valley. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Westerly shear (oncoming +QBO) has officially descended to 30mb. Will probably be a mixed QBO winter, with westerlies above 40mb, and residual easterlies below 40mb. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 We got our month of cooler than average weather with a handful of rainy days. Now we must pay our dues with another 3-4 months of torching and systems that underperform everywhere but the Snoqualmie Valley. Snohomish and Skagit counties are kicking our butt down here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Blythe isn't looking so bad right now. We suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Haha! Pessimism. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Blythe isn't looking so bad right now. We suck Basically one punch in the gut after another around here since late April. The last few weeks had me thinking we had maybe finally turned a corner, then this disgusting ridging showed up on the models. Now it's here and it won't be going anywhere for awhile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 We got our month of cooler than average weather with a handful of rainy days. Now we must pay our dues with another 3-4 months of torching and systems that underperform everywhere but the Snoqualmie Valley.Quit being so selfish. I haven’t seen a continental airmass since April. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 We have discovered that a drought-proof area does exist in the PNW. And its not on the top of Mt. Rainier. In fact... housing prices are ridiculously high in this drought-proof area indicating that it is in high demand. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Haha! Pessimism.Just want some good rain. Don't care about the temps. Models have a very 1976 look to them. Good chance this fall/winter will be drier than that one. Warmer too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Basically one punch in the gut after another around here since late April. The last few weeks had me thinking we had maybe finally turned a corner, then this disgusting ridging showed up on the models. Now it's here and it won't be going anywhere for awhile.So gullible... Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 So gullible... Your response to that 100% serious post of mine definitely tells me so! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Just want some good rain. Don't care about the temps. Models have a very 1976 look to them. Good chance this fall/winter will be drier than that one. Warmer too.How was 1977/78 out there? On paper, that year is looking like one of the better analogs (cooler globe aside). Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 How was 1977/78 out there? On paper, that year is looking like one of the better analogs (cooler globe aside).Front loaded. Big snowstorm in November. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Front loaded. Big snowstorm in November.Hmm..that seems to fit with the tendencies in other plausible analog years (1985/86, 1996/97, 2006/07, 2014/15, etc, in addition to 1977/78). Based on the convo here, I’m guessing 1985/86 and 1996/97 also had early season activity. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Hmm..that seems to fit with the tendencies in other plausible analog years (1985/86, 1996/97, 2006/07, 2014/15, etc, in addition to 1977/78). Based on the convo here, I’m guessing 1985/86 and 1996/97 also had early season activity. I think November of 1985 had something interesting... might have been cold and snow? Not sure. Might have also been followed by the driest December ever. Just a rumor. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Your response to that 100% serious post of mine definitely tells me so!You only get one weather-related reverse psychology card per lifetime. Spend it wisely. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Looks like the PV might take an early hit next week. That’s one of the ironic benefits of the Aleutian Low...it rocks the PV (typically to initiate W-1 structure), such that it can be easier to dislodge if/when the pattern changes again. http://www.atmos.albany.edu/student/hattard/realtime/u_65N_10hpa.png Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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