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February 2019 Weather Observations and Discussion Part 2


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The December 20-22 storm dropped 6"+ from Salem to Vancouver, BC. Nothing this month can compare to that. Then a regional arctic airmass the week before. Then the setup on the 24th, which was 3"+ from Portland to Vancouver, BC.

Yeah, that month was better for regional storms. The dynamic part is much more debatable.

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Yeah, that month was better for regional storms. The dynamic part is much more debatable.

 

Maybe. That December 20-22, 2008 system is still probably the benchmark for 21st century PNW snow events. There were some really impressive more localized snow dumps that month, too, like the PSCZ on the 17th and 18th that dropped 24"+ in places.

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How would you all compare this month to December 2008? From a historical perspective it is more impressive. From a boots on the ground perspective I would take 2008. Heart of winter, the holidays, etc...Regionally though this month is definitely more anomalous.

2008 was way better.

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I don’t think anyone in BC would choose this month over 2008. Not even close. Snowfall in the lower mainland has not been overly impressive this February. Many places are only in the 12-16” range.

 

We had over 50” in December 2008 and well over 60” if you include the first few days of January. The entire winter was close to 80” at this location.

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For Eugene and Roseburg February 2019 was hands down better than December 08. But like I said I would take December 08' in a heart beat. But from a pure anomaly standpoint February 2019 really stands out. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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We did it! The entire month of February passed without a single registered sunspot. That only happened once during the last solar minimum (Sep 2009).

 

FWIW, from the looks of the sun right now, we might continue this streak beyond 30 days.

That's very impressive, I agree that we will most likely make it beyond the 30 days without a sunspot. But Just watch, there will be a huge coronal hole covering half the Sun in 2 weeks screwing things all up. Lol
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Getting some flurries here. Down to 34 with the Gorge gradient picking up again. The chances of hitting 50

tomorrow seem a little more remote. Mark has PDX only hitting 46. Would be crazy to extend the stretch through the first week of March. Definitely looking possible if we miss it tomorrow.

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More like when you can't score with a 150W block for five straight weeks.

It’s the worst of both worlds...

 

You ended up horrifyingly wrong about the doom and gloom winter cancel stuff but ended up on the shortest end of the snowfall stick with only the hazy prospect of possible dewness as a result.

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Feb vs Dec

 

Oh yeah. And spring 2011 was incredibly cool compared to average, but only Jesse and I didn't think it sucked. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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EURO says 50 at PDX tomorrow, but only 42 at SLE...Doesn't make a ton of sense to me. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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Euro showing sub-zero dewpoints in parts of the metro area on Monday morning. 

 

Also showing a solid 1-3" snow event Albany-north into SW WA next Thursday.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Euro showing sub-zero dewpoints in parts of the metro area on Monday morning.

That can’t be too common for so late in the winter! Have we ever seen that so late before in history?

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That's very impressive, I agree that we will most likely make it beyond the 30 days without a sunspot. But Just watch, there will be a huge coronal hole covering half the Sun in 2 weeks screwing things all up. Lol

Indeed. Consequently around the time when the spring weather pattern kicks in and temps moderate back to seasonal normals.

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2008 was way better.

 

I don't totally agree with that.  Some places had quite a bit more snow with this.  For me the second snowfall we had this month was my all time favorite for the place I'm currently living at.  For persistent spectacular blocking this one is certainly better than 2008.  This month was colder than Dec 2008 at SEA and MBY as well.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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That can’t be too common for so late in the winter! Have we ever seen that so late before in history?

 

1865 and 1955 has spectacular cold waves in early March.  There are also a number of lesser ones.  The event shown for this weekend is pretty darn rare for March though.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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I'm thinking a total of 40+ freezing low temps for Feb - Apr this year is a strong possibility.  Pretty likely we will continue to see a lot of anomalous GOA ridging for a while.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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I don't totally agree with that. Some places had quite a bit more snow with this. For me the second snowfall we had this month was my all time favorite for the place I'm currently living at. For persistent spectacular blocking this one is certainly better than 2008. This month was colder than Dec 2008 at SEA and MBY as well.

2008 was better!!

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I don't totally agree with that. Some places had quite a bit more snow with this. For me the second snowfall we had this month was my all time favorite for the place I'm currently living at. For persistent spectacular blocking this one is certainly better than 2008. This month was colder than Dec 2008 at SEA and MBY as well.

Yeah not exactly an apples to apples comparison for many reasons. Even though December 2008 was much snowier in my backyard I can still appreciate the fact that Feb 2019 was a more impressive month regionally.

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2008 was better!!

 

In your opinion for your area.  Things are lot different in the interior.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Snowfall is an added bonus to the cold. Dec 2008 was certainly memorable and had more snow coverage imo but Feb. 2019 prolonged cold is better and more impressive. feels like we’ve been stuck in a continuous loop.

 

This says it all.

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The ECMWF shows 8 more days of cold.  One more good cold shot and a widespread snow event.  Utterly insane!

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Snowfall is an added bonus to the cold. Dec 2008 was certainly memorable and had more snow coverage imo but Feb. 2019 prolonged cold is better and feels like we’ve been stuck in a continuous loop.

 

This says it all.

 

The persistence was amazing this month.  Certainly a spectacular February.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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The persistence was amazing this month. Certainly a spectacular February.

And to put into perspective how epic this Feb. has been, from Nov. 1 - Jan. 31 SEA had only 4 overnight lows of 32 or lower. It was also on the verge of a completely snowless winter.

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The ECMWF shows 8 more days of cold. One more good cold shot and a widespread snow event. Utterly insane!

What day is the snow event?

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A Silver Falls February 2019 will almost certainly come in colder than December 2008. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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