March 2015 PNW Discussion

[BLI snowman]

Sticky one coming up tomorrow.  

 

70 degree dewpoints in the summer with this pattern. Preview of coming attractions.

[BLI snowman]

Nothing is ever as good as the old days. Just ask old people.

 

The historically average-ish Januaries of 2007-2009 and 2013 were amazing!

[Front Ranger]

The historically average-ish Januaries of 2007-2009 and 2013 were amazing!

 

I don't know about you guys, but I'm coming to the conclusion that January is due. Like, past due. Like, that baby should have popped out years ago.

[Front Ranger]

70 degree dewpoints in the summer with this pattern. Preview of coming attractions.

 

You're making Jesse sweat just thinking about it.

 

All I know is, that water off the coast sure is looking toasty...we all know what that means!

[BLI snowman]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm coming to the conclusion that January is due. Like, past due. Like, that baby should have popped out years ago.

 

One of these decades it'll happen.

[BLI snowman]

You're making Jesse sweat just thinking about it.

 

All I know is, that water off the coast sure is looking toasty...we all know what that means!

 

Should be a bunch more soul-sucking debates about it these next few months.

[richard mann]

.. A generally obscured meteorological, even climatological, perspective('s being outlined). ?

[Deweydog]

70 degree dewpoints in the summer with this pattern. Preview of coming attractions.

 

Sexy.  

[Deweydog]

Should be a bunch more soul-sucking debates about it these next few months.

 

The rain on Mt. Shasta was chicken soup for the soul!  

[BLI snowman]

The rain on Mt. Shasta was chicken soup for the soul!  

 

Always nice to be right 

[Deweydog]

Always nice to be right 

 

If a few souls have to be sucked in the process, so be it.  This is chess, not checkers.  

[TT-SEA]

Nice to see the default pattern back in the long range... people in the Upper Midwest are getting a taste of warm weather now so this might be more painful for them if it verifies:

 

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/00/gfs_namer_240_500_vort_ht.gif

[Deweydog]

Nice to see the default pattern back in the long range... people in the Upper Midwest are getting a taste of warm weather now so this might be more painful for them if it verifies:

 

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/00/gfs_namer_240_500_vort_ht.gif

 

Thunderstorms!

[richard mann]

(.. cross-reference.)

 

http://theweatherforums.com/index.php/topic/817-later-winter-2014-15-colder-air-mass-movement-and-distribution-projections/?p=74128

[Dan the Weatherman]

Nice to see the default pattern back in the long range... people in the Upper Midwest are getting a taste of warm weather now so this might be more painful for them if it verifies:

 

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/00/gfs_namer_240_500_vort_ht.gif

I think it's time for this pattern to go away for awhile, so we can all get some much needed rain and mountain snow across the entire west! It has been WAY too dominant in the last few years!

[TT-SEA]

I think it's time for this pattern to go away for awhile, so we can all get some much needed rain and mountain snow across the entire west! It has been WAY too dominant in the last few years!

 

Given up... just want spring to be nice now.

[seattleweatherguy]

By March standards it should be a bit sticky. SW'erly flow, fairly high heights (good subsidence), plenty of residual moisture. Hot stuff.

Thanks learning all the time.

[richard mann]

I think it's time for this pattern to go away for awhile, so we can all get some much needed rain and mountain snow across the entire west! It has been WAY too dominant in the last few years!

 

hey Dan. 

 

... I've suggested some of this thinking of mine here below at different times previously. Basically my own broader perspective regarding the idea of larger and more extended range pattern evolution. Fairly general.

 

As I see things, the stronger positioning and establishment / main geographic focus, of main-storage cold more primary north, through Northern and more Northeastern Canada, has been the main reason for the patterning that we've been seeing—both last year and this.

 

— Per my own view more basic, a general result of colder air's at the same time both slower movement (more cyclical and if varying somewhat from one month to month, inner-seasonal.) daily more eastward—(And so, not off of the greater Canadian Shield and to more out over the Atlantic.)—while also being in general recession mode daily more northward (following its more general expansion daily more south), lending to its better general consolidation through higher latitudes. 

 

With this idea, what I'm expecting will likely, eventually work to change this stronger focusing of main and primary cold north, will be colder air's otherwise stronger and more stepped up, movement eastward daily more, where at the same time receding more northward. 

 

.. Per my general study of colder air's both more latitudinal looked at together with more longitudinal both movement along with distribution, the basic cycle periods of these two main types of colder air movement (Expanding South or receding North more latitudinally, or where considering its more variable pace more longitudinally East.), are slightly different, and so constantly changing one with respect to the other. And with this idea, what I've suggested here above where considering the idea of a change in greater pattering being more likely than less, where set against the idea that have otherwise. More essentially, that the more basic interplay of the two main types of colder movement more cyclical has worked to support, even perhaps to have reinforced, main-storage cold's better consolidation and stronger hold through Northern both Central and Eastern Canada more, over the past two years. 

 

The general focus more hemispheric, at both the 850mb temperature height, and 500mb pressure height levels, more current. 

 

http://weather.unisys.com/upper air/ua hem.php?plot=n8&inv=0&t=cur

http://weather.unisys.com/upper air/ua hem.php?plot=n5&inv=0&t=cur

 

With checking these resources, note main-storage cold's focus and position more strongly established, set against what I've suggested will be the case where looking at main colder air's, both movement and distribution—both more latitudinal and more longitudinal, more near term, posted earlier this evening here following accessible. - http://theweatherfor...ion-projections

[TT-SEA]

Toasty tomorrow...

 

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/current_gfs/images_d2/wa_tsfc.36.0000.gif

[seattleweatherguy]

Toasty tomorrow...

 

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt/data/current_gfs/images_d2/wa_tsfc.36.0000.gif

if i read that correctly that means wide spread 70s

[Jesse]

Hour 336 of the 12z shows snow at Andrew's!!

[Phil]

Nice to see the default pattern back in the long range... people in the Upper Midwest are getting a taste of warm weather now so this might be more painful for them if it verifies:

 

Maybe for you..

[HighlandExperience]

Hour 336 of the 12z shows snow at Andrew's!!

 

Will just end up having our default ridge alternating with warm rain. <_>

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Hour 336 of the 12z shows snow at Andrew's!!

 

I'm all over it.

[Jesse]

63 DP 47 at PDX right now.

 

Steamier than a cheap romance novel.

[richard mann]

70°F here more south, by comparison. With a few upper mid-level and more broad-spread clouds, post rain. Mostly sunny. We got about 3-tenths of an inch of rain yesterday.

 

74° expected tomorrow.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Very balmy day

[SilverFallsAndrew]

63 DP 47 at PDX right now.

 

Steamier than a cheap romance novel.

At pdx right now. Roasting like a pig.

[Jesse]

At pdx right now. Roasting like a pig.

Dps in the 40s aren't bad at all.

 

I'm praying we don't have another summer filled with dps in the 60s, though.

[bainbridgekid]

63 DP 47 at PDX right now.

 

Steamier than a cheap romance novel.

BFI topped out at 65/47 earlier. The air definitely feels pretty thick and sticky today.

 

Seems reasonable quite a few spots will see their first 70 degree temps tomorrow if the clouds can hold off till the evening. Either way lots of upper 60's.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

18z!

[MossMan]

18z!

Thermal low? 80's?

[TT-SEA]

Thermal low? 80's?

 

 

Lowland snow in the long range.    Its going to happen and I am really mad about it.   Its guaranteed to happen.   Everything trends colder this year!

[Deweydog]

Dps in the 40s aren't bad at all.

 

I'm praying we don't have another summer filled with dps in the 60s, though.

God doesn't respond to humidity-related prayers. You're screwed.

[Front Ranger]

Our climate really is turning into Scottsdale lite. 

 

Cleveland turning into Barrow lite.

[Front Ranger]

70F and sunny here in downtown OKC. 

 

The sun sure is strong compared to the PNW, what a difference 10 degrees in latitude makes.

 

I'm driving to Denver tomorrow and staying for a few weeks at least. When I was there two days ago it was 59F and sunny with piles of snow still. 

 

Out here in the western suburbs, there are still piles of snow in the shade, but the general snow cover leftover from the February storms is gone. Had over 3 weeks straight with it, which is pretty unusual this late in the season.

[Front Ranger]

Sticky one coming up tomorrow.  

 

DP currently 44 at PDX. Downright oppressive (even by mid-May standards!!).

[Deweydog]

DP currently 44 at PDX. Downright oppressive (even by mid-May standards!!).

Man...that really touched a nerve!

[Front Ranger]

Man...that really touched a nerve!

 

Just because I'm making fun of you doesn't mean it touched a nerve. It's just fun to make fun of people sometimes. You know this.

 

Or are you saying my comment touched your nerve???

[Deweydog]

Just because I'm making fun of you doesn't mean it touched a nerve. It's just fun to make fun of people sometimes. You know this.

 

Or are you saying my comment touched your nerve???

Air mass today turned over a little quicker than I thought it would. 68/50 in Eugene is not too typical for March however. Humidity isn't too easy to pull off this time of year for pretty obvious reasons.

 

#saveitforsummerandfall