2022 Election Results

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

I’m more of an moderate myself…but my brother is hardcore Republican and he’s really upset. He’s been talking about how excited he was for tonight and how big the red wave was gonna be but reality has started to slowly sink in the last 2 hours

Trump blew it. All his idiotic Maga candidates. RED WAVE IN 2024!

[TacomaWx]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Trump blew it. All his idiotic Maga candidates. RED WAVE IN 2024!

I agree I think a lot of tonight was just a rebuke of trump and people he endorsed. 

[SnarkyGoblin]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Trump blew it. All his idiotic Maga candidates. RED WAVE IN 2024!

Trump didn't vote for those idiots.

Blame your primary voters.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 minute ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Trump didn't vote for those idiots.

Blame your primary voters.

Well yes that. I'm just saying, if these current results hold Trump will be the scapegoat, finally...

[snow_wizard]

Man this is close.  The Senate may come down to GA which looks like it won't have a clear winner with 50% of the vote.

Nail biter for both houses. 

[snow_wizard]

6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Trump blew it. All his idiotic Maga candidates. RED WAVE IN 2024!

Let's wait and see what happens first.

[snow_wizard]

The current count has the Republicans with a net pickup of 8 seats.

[Gradient Keeper]

Democrats can only win elections by fear mongering, lies, and manipulation telling their voters that republicans or conservatives are all far right, extremists, racists, bigots, white supremacists, and if you don't vote for us that your rights or civil rights are in jeopardy, or other nonsense, and it's all garbage. Being politically correct, pandering, and soft on crime are not good policies, they are disastrous. I have to question the intelligence of anyone who watches CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, CBS News, or NBC News when you are told what to think, how to think, and clearly losing the ability to think for yourself. I personally don't watch Cable News. I personally have said for years I favor to move away from the two party system, how about four to six each with equal campaign funding. No outside money. No special interest. Then we'll really see who wants to work for the American people.

[SnarkyGoblin]

Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Well yes that. I'm just saying, if these current results hold Trump will be the scapegoat, finally...

LOL! You think taking him down is going to be this easy???  

That motherfuck*r will blame anyone and everyone and his army will be ready to defend him.  This is not even a scratch for him.

[SnarkyGoblin]

4 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

Democrats can only win elections by fear mongering, lies, and manipulation telling their voters that republicans or conservatives are all far right, extremists, racists, bigots, white supremacists, and if you don't vote for us that your rights or civil rights are in jeopardy, or other nonsense, and it's all garbage. Being politically correct, pandering, and soft on crime are not good policies, they are disastrous. I have to question the intelligence of anyone who watches CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, CBS News, or NBC News when you are told what to think, how to think, and clearly losing the ability to think for yourself. I personally don't watch Cable News. I personally have said for years I favor to move away from the two party system, how about four to six each with equal campaign funding. No outside money. No special interest. Then we'll really see who wants to work for the American people.

100% with you on the second half of this post.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

LOL! You think taking him down is going to be this easy???  

That motherfuck*r will blame anyone and everyone and his army will be ready to defend him.  This is not even a scratch for him.

DeSantis won by 20%. That means something.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

If the Democrats don't lose control of at least one house of Congress, this election is a huge win for them.

It is rare for a party in power to not get shellacked in the midterms.

Maybe try really hard to dump Trump, Republicans (and yes, it’s going to be hard)? He really seems like a liability for your party.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

8 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

Democrats can only win elections by fear mongering, lies, and manipulation telling their voters that republicans or conservatives are all far right, extremists, racists, bigots, white supremacists, and if you don't vote for us that your rights or civil rights are in jeopardy, or other nonsense, and it's all garbage. Being politically correct, pandering, and soft on crime are not good policies, they are disastrous. I have to question the intelligence of anyone who watches CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, CBS News, or NBC News when you are told what to think, how to think, and clearly losing the ability to think for yourself. I personally don't watch Cable News. I personally have said for years I favor to move away from the two party system, how about four to six each with equal campaign funding. No outside money. No special interest. Then we'll really see who wants to work for the American people.

Republicans win elections with fear mongering, lies, and manipulations telling voters that Democrats or liberals are all communists who want to make the USA like Cuba or Venezuela.

Sauce, goose, gander. Cry harder.

[SnarkyGoblin]

4 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Republicans win elections with fear mongering, lies, and manipulations telling voters that Democrats or liberals are all communists who want to make the USA like Cuba or Venezuela.

Sauce, goose, gander. Cry harder.

Lol. MarineLayer on here is a perfect example of this.

[Gradient Keeper]

1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Republicans win elections with fear mongering, lies, and manipulations telling voters that Democrats or liberals are all communists who want to make the USA like Cuba or Venezuela.

Sauce, goose, gander. Cry harder.

No, they really don't, but they might says those things of those holding office elected Democrats. They don't of democrat voters or citizens. Biden did said half the country were fascists. Biden says the most divisive garbage of anyone.

Let me ask you, do we currently have a strong, fortified border? Are thousands of illegals streaming across the border every day? Do we have an epidemic of drugs flowing across the border and human trafficking due to not having a strong border? All of these issues due to failed Democrat policy. Why don't any democrats(in office) want to tackle those things. They should matter.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Just now, Gradient Keeper said:

No, they really don't, but they might says those things of those holding office elected Democrats. They don't of democrat voters or citizens. Biden did said half the country were fascists. Biden says the most divisive garbage of anyone.

Yes, they really do. And their base just laps it up. Just see some of Mr. Marine Layer's recent posts to the other politics forum recently.

But that's okay when a rightie says it about the left. It's only a problem when the other side turns the tables.

[snow_wizard]

 

Does anyone know anything about Nevada?  It looks like a wall of secrecy.

[snow_wizard]

Just now, hawkstwelve said:

Positive spin for Republicans desperate for no Trump 2024...

DeSantis wins by 20+ points.

Trump candidates lose in a surprising upset.

Who now has the momentum going into 2024? If this rids us of Trump by showing he is not poticially invincible and there is a legitimate very strong other option to get behind I say it was worth it the rough go this year.

As long as we win the House! Which I still think we will. 

Florida was certainly the bright spot tonight.  Believe me....the results there scare the left.  They can't stand to have a conservative have that kind of success.  The people in that state have witnessed what conservative policies can do when they are actually enacted.  

[Gradient Keeper]

1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Yes, they really do. And their base just laps it up. Just see some of Mr. Marine Layer's recent posts to the other politics forum recently.

But that's okay when a rightie says it about the left. It's only a problem when the other side turns the tables.

You're talking about one guys comments and making broad generalizations or assumptions based off of that. Try not to do that. When anyone is discussing border security or law and order for example it should simply be down to common sense. Nothing more. None of those things should ever be political. Why would they.

[snow_wizard]

3 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

Positive spin for Republicans desperate for no Trump 2024...

DeSantis wins by 20+ points.

Trump candidates lose in a surprising upset.

Who now has the momentum going into 2024? If this rids us of Trump by showing he is not poticially invincible and there is a legitimate very strong other option to get behind I say it was worth it the rough go this year.

As long as we win the House! Which I still think we will. 

I will concede...I am done with Trump and have been for a while now.  He served a purpose now it's time for him to move on.

And yes....we MUST win the House.

[snow_wizard]

Another bright spot....Texas is not looking all that purple anymore.

[snow_wizard]

WI is looking pretty good for Ron Johnson in the Senate.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Do you vote from "overseas?"

[Rubus Leucodermis]

4 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

You're talking about one guys comments and making broad generalizations or assumptions based off of that. Try not to do that. When anyone is discussing border security or law and order for example it should simply be down to common sense. Nothing more. None of those things should ever be political. Why would they.

Law and order, like declaring what happened on January 6th 2021 to be legitimate political discourse, the official position of the Republican Party?

Do tell more about law and order. This is hilarious.

[SnarkyGoblin]

Out of curiosity, of the Republicans on here, who was your preferred candidate at the beginning of the 2016 primary season?

I think the house will still go to the GOP.  I hope they are responsible with their power.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Do you vote from "overseas?"

I guess that's what they technically call it though I can drive to my county's courthouse, no crossing of any ocean needed.

[Gradient Keeper]

2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I will concede...I am done with Trump and have been for a while now.  He served a purpose now it's time for him to move on.

And yes....we MUST win the House.

This country is done. The far left and the idiots that vote for their disastrous policies, pronouns, 'woke' garbage turning children into non-gender potatoes, continuing to diminish law and order, allowing social justice mobs to influence policy and legislation, prosecutors who intentionally do not prosecute with a revolving door of criminals, the definite attack on the 2A and 1A due to feelings and political correctness. Yeah what a great future ahead.

[Chewbacca Defense]

3 hours ago, snow_wizard said:

The count turned in favor of Walker in GA for the first time tonight.

Not sure that is anything to be bragging about.  Walker is the exact opposite of what Republicans claim/pretend to be in terms of integrity and morality

[SnarkyGoblin]

Nbc called PA for Fetterman.

[roadtonowhere08]

1 minute ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Nbc called PA for Fetterman.

Just say NO to carpetbaggers.

[Gradient Keeper]

2 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Law and order, like declaring what happened on January 6th 2021 to be legitimate political discourse, the official position of the Republican Party?

Do tell more about law and order. This is hilarious.

Well, Democrats were the only ones to defund and cower to a mob of lunatics. I don't give a shit about January 6th. I don't. I have no idea where you get your information from honestly. If you want to talk about political discourse what about 2016-2020 Democrats(in office) refused to accept Trump won. Clinton was the worst talking about how they won't be civil, etc. What's the difference? There isn't. They also held sham and phony impeachments and other probes refusing to accept he actually won because she is an awful person and candidate for the DNC. As far as 2020, who could believe Americans would vote for a senile, decrepit old man who also has a fantastic history of racism well documented.

Oh, that's right, 4 years of CNN every day saying Trump and all of his supporters were racists LMAO the only way Biden wins is with that kind of lying, manipulation. Trump hurt a lot of people's feelings, but I never needed him to be nice, just get the job done and he did. He was kicking ass. On January 6th a bunch of idiots walked inside took pictures with DC Cops, they were unarmed, and walked around like morons. Big deal. As for those outside who were combative, any lawless or criminal act must be handled and prosecuted regardless of politics, or anything else. The other hundreds of thousands well away from the capital on that day did nothing, no violence. You act like those people speak on behalf of every Republican and that's just pure ignorance.

[roadtonowhere08]

9 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

This country is done. The far left and the idiots that vote for their disastrous policies, pronouns, 'woke' garbage turning children into non-gender potatoes, continuing to diminish law and order, allowing social justice mobs to influence policy and legislation, prosecutors who intentionally do not prosecute with a revolving door of criminals, the definite attack on the 2A and 1A due to feelings and political correctness. Yeah what a great future ahead.

Nice job on the left.  Now do the right.

[roadtonowhere08]

5 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

Well, Democrats were the only ones to defund and cower to a mob of lunatics. I don't give a about January 6th. I don't. I have no idea where you get your information from honestly. If you want to talk about political discourse what about 2016-2020 Democrats(in office) refused to accept Trump won. Clinton was the worst talking about how they won't be civil, etc. What's the difference? There isn't. They also held sham and phony impeachments and other probes refusing to accept he actually won because she is an awful person and candidate for the DNC. As far as 2020, who could believe Americans would vote for a senile, decrepit old man who also has a fantastic history of racism well documented.

Oh, that's right, 4 years of CNN every day saying Trump and all of his supporters were racists LMAO the only way Biden wins is with that kind of lying, manipulation. Trump hurt a lot of people's feelings, but I never needed him to be nice, just get the job done and he did. He was kicking a**. On January 6th a bunch of idiots walked inside took pictures with DC Cops, they were unarmed, and walked around like morons. Big deal. As for those outside who were combative, any lawless or criminal act must be handled and prosecuted regardless of politics, or anything else. The other hundreds of thousands well away from the capital on that day did nothing, no violence. You act like those people speak on behalf of every Republican and that's just pure ignorance.

Disregard my last post.  Objectivity is not in the cards.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

13 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

WI is looking pretty good for Ron Johnson in the Senate.

Looking close.

 

[Gradient Keeper]

3 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

Nice job on the left.  Now do the right.

The right? You mean common sense? Law and order at the highest importance, we want schools to be about education like they always used to be before progressives took over public schools and school boards, learning things that help children succeed when they graduate, not about gender, identity, sexuality woke nonsense indoctrinating them. Stop teaching them that words they don't like are hate speech and they need to be sad and fragile unable to manage their emotions or feelings properly. Everyone is here to coddle them so they never learn how to deal with anything. Enough of that shit too. That's about it.

[Gradient Keeper]

14 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Nbc called PA for Fetterman.

That guy is a nut job. Real great policies he has.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

19 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

Out of curiosity, of the Republicans on here, who was your preferred candidate at the beginning of the 2016 primary season?

I think the house will still go to the GOP.  I hope they are responsible with their power.

I did not really have one. Nominally Rand Paul, but he ran a terrible campaign. I supported Romney in both 2008 and 2012. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I am surprised Fetterman won, but Iowa re-elected an 89 year old, so you know.

[roadtonowhere08]

7 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

The right? You mean common sense? Law and order at the highest importance, we want schools to be about education like they always used to be before progressives took over public schools and school boards, learning things that help children succeed when they graduate, not about gender, identity, sexuality woke nonsense indoctrinating them. Stop teaching them that words they don't like are hate speech and they need to be sad and fragile unable to manage their emotions or feelings properly. Everyone is here to coddle them so they never learn how to deal with anything. Enough of that too. That's about it.

[Anti Marine Layer]

27 minutes ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

Disregard my last post.  Objectivity is not in the cards.

To the far left, equality of results is more important than liberty, freedom of religion is a threat to the abortion agenda, freedom of speech causes severe mental damage to LGBQT+ people, and there is no such thing as objective truth, other than that those who don't completely share their views are racists and fascists.

The left are also not liberal, although they claim to be.

That does not mean all people who vote Democrat share the views of the far left people ruling their party. Nor does every Republican voter approve of the stupid things that Trump says and does or think all companies should be filthy rich.

It's always a "vote for whom you hate the least" situation rather than voting for people you like.

 

[Gradient Keeper]

1 minute ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

Well, you see...... and....... and..... and..... and then.... but.... and.... I honestly don't care about politics, do not want to care about politics, but I do care about our atrocious media with the constant lies and manipulation, the tremendous problems they cause from doing so wanting to split us all into two groups, the radical right and radical left with no moderates. Just look at social media it's a plague of incivility, arguments, and finger pointing every day. People don't talk 'to' each other, they talk at each other and get nowhere. That's exactly what the government wants whether people believe it or not. It's the only thing keeping them in power. When they constantly label us they aim to segregate and divide us.

[SnarkyGoblin]

13 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

That guy is a nut job. Real great policies he has.

I just heard him talk and he said he wanted jobs, things being built at home, healthcare as a right, protecting abortion access, and a few other softball pipe dreams.

I guess 60% of the country are nut jobs.

[Chewbacca Defense]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Very possible now the Dems keep the house. Dobbs did matter I think. 

Also the fact Republicans picked off a lot of low hanging fruit in 2020 by gaining 13 seats even though Trump lost. 

I don't think so, I think it will still flip, but by a much smaller margin than originally thought.  I hope I am wrong, but then again it would be mildly entertaining to watch the Republicans self destruct with the endless pointless investigations they are threatening to do.  And yeah, I think Dobbs did matter as well. 

[Gradient Keeper]

10 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

I just heard him talk and he said he wanted jobs, things being built at home, healthcare as a right, protecting abortion access, and a few other softball pipe dreams.

I guess 60% of the country are nut jobs.

No, no, the real things. Extremely soft on crime, wants to release 1/3 of prison inmates.

[snow_wizard]

190 seats in the House for the Republicans now.  Looking pretty solid.  At least there are some things for the right to feel good about tonight.  Florida, Texas, and probably taking the House.  The Senate will be tough.

Perhaps the biggest thing of all is the suspicions that Hispanic Americans are turning away from the Democrats seem to be supported by what happened in Florida and Texas tonight.

[roadtonowhere08]

3 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

Well, you see...... and....... and..... and..... and then.... but.... and.... I honestly don't care about politics, do not want to care about politics, but I do care about our atrocious media with the constant lies and manipulation, the tremendous problems they cause from doing so wanting to split us all into two groups, the radical right and radical left with no moderates. Just look at social media it's a plague of incivility, arguments, and finger pointing every day. People don't talk 'to' each other, they talk at each other and get nowhere. That's exactly what the government wants whether people believe it or not. It's the only thing keeping them in power. When they constantly label us they aim to segregate and divide us.

I get all of this.  I agree, but you will get nowhere when you only blame one side of the problem.  That's what keeps the fight going.  You wanna stick it to the media?  Turn it off, talk with real people, and find common ground.  You can only do your part.

[snow_wizard]

1 minute ago, Gradient Keeper said:

No, no, the real things. Extremely soft on crime, wants to release 1/3 of prison inmates.

I though the rampant crime would result in more Republican votes tonight.  For some reason the Republican messaging still seems to be off.  Not sure how to make it more clear to people the Democrats are soft on crime.

[snow_wizard]

1 minute ago, roadtonowhere08 said:

I get all of this.  I agree, but you will get nowhere when you only blame one side of the problem.  That's what keeps the fight going.  You wanna stick it to the media?  Turn it off, talk with real people, and find common ground.  You can only do your part.

You make some good points here.  There has to be a way to work some of this out.

[roadtonowhere08]

6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I though the rampant crime would result in more Republican votes tonight.  For some reason the Republican messaging still seems to be off.  Not sure how to make it more clear to people the Democrats are soft on crime.

Let's face it: both sides are terrible on crime.  The left is very naïve and the right is punitive on stupid stuff and is not really interested in attacking the root causes.

[snow_wizard]

Interesting to note there's a Libertarian in the GA Senate race who has over 2%.  In a runoff most of those votes would probably go to Walker.