PNW December 2022, winter might be coming; but mostly canceled.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

That's another piece that has been missing from mid-winter, aside from the major arctic outbreaks, we have had very few modified arctic air intrusions into the region if you compare to the historical record. Events like early January 2017 or even January 2007 just used to be a lot more common. 

I really think the late February 2022 airmass would have been able to produce temps similar to those events if it had happened a month sooner. So some of it has probably been due to our colder airmasses being focused so much later in the season. 

[Everleigh]

Up to 42.3* today. Feels downright warm compared to the last week or so. lol 

[MossMan]

Drove a mile east to the highest location near my house at nearly 800’, a little more snow on the ground than my place but still just some lumps coming down with the mostly liquid precip. A mile west of my place and at an elevation of 350’ there is zero snow and no lumps. Glad I don’t live down here! 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

6 minutes ago, Everleigh said:

Up to 42.3* today. Feels downright warm compared to the last week or so. lol 

A bit warmer in the Willamette Valley today as well. Highs will probably be more in the lower to mid 40s today as opposed to upper 30s yesterday. 

[Doinko]

23 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Very true. One of the best winter stretches I've had down here was the first week of January 2017. It was kind of a fail as far as true arctic air went, but we had some modified arctic air slip in and ended up having a very cold low level airmass. A lot of valley locations ended up hitting the mid teens even without snow cover, which set up a nice overrunning event from EUG to PDX on the 7-8th. The events that happened a few days later kind of fade the memory of the previous week for many, but for many areas south of Portland that was the coldest week of that winter. EUG had back to back lows of 13 on the 5th and 6th and then a 29/24 day on the 7th with 4" of snow. 

Salem bottomed out at 14 on the 6th, and then had a 29/23 day on the 7th. 

Both locations also recorded sub-freezing highs on 1/13/2017. Eugene would record one on the 14th as well, and this would end up being the last time they had a sub-freezing high. Salem would not record another one until the ice storm of February 2021. 

However, 1/7/2017 is the last time both locations had a sub-30 high. 

Neither location has rivaled the lows of 14 and 13 respectively that they achieved on 1/6/17. 

In fact, if I am not mistaken the last time Salem saw a low in the teens was 1/15/17 and at EUG 1/6/17... Both incredibly long stretches for those locations. 

I digress...

EUG did see a low in the teens this November as well. I think PDX dropped to 17 with that early month airmass.

That early month airmass was really nice. I think we had a half inch of snow on the 1st, then some really strong east winds and snow/ice event on the 7th/8th with another half inch.

And then here of course the next 10 days were amazing

[LowerGarfield]

7 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Drove a mile east to the highest location near my house at nearly 800’, a little more snow on the ground than my place but still just some lumps coming down with the mostly liquid precip. A mile west of my place and at an elevation of 350’ there is zero snow and no lumps. Glad I don’t live down here! 

Gotta love Pioneer Hey.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

4 minutes ago, Doinko said:

EUG did see a low in the teens this November as well. I think PDX dropped to 17 with that early month airmass.

That early month airmass was really nice. I think we had a half inch of snow on the 1st, then some really strong east winds and snow/ice event on the 7th/8th with another half inch.

You are right about Eugene hitting the teens this November, for some reason I forgot about the 18 they recorded on the 19th and just remembered the 20 they had the next day. Wow, that was impressive. 

At elevation we did really well on New Year's Day 2017. We had a storm total of around 8" from that, and did not see bare ground again until the end of the month. Salem had some light accumulations on the 1st and 2nd too, but there was no appreciable snow cover to aid the lows. 

The Silverton and Canby areas were hit with some pretty intense snow bands on 1/1/17 which dropped several inches in very localized spots which stayed on the ground for some time as well. Silverton had about 4-5" with that, and then several more inches on the 7th, and maybe another inch as things wound down on the 11th, so they had snow on the ground for several weeks, which is obviously very rare for them. 

[MossMan]

11 minutes ago, LowerGarfield said:

Gotta love Pioneer Hey.

Not Pioneer as that is west of I-5. Snowy road pic is up on 316th 

Non snow road pic is Brandstrom Rd which parallels I-5 (off to the left of the pic) 

Edited December 6, 2022 by MossMan

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

I might start looking for property again around Cushman to maybe build on.

Last time i looked i found a few properties around 1500ft, That would be some serious winter weather at that elevation there.

[RentonHill]

4 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I might start looking for property again around Cushman to maybe build on.

Last time i looked i found a few properties around 1500ft, That would be some serious winter weather at that elevation there.

greed is good

you literally getting 95% more snow than anyone else here and you have a place in OKGN highlands where you beat everyone else....my man!!

[TigerWoodsLibido]

2 hours ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

check your private message

Appreciate you my man, I gotta get to a college hoops game up there at UW or Seattle University at some point!! Merry Christmas!!

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

5 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

greed is good

you literally getting 95% more snow than anyone else here and you have a place in OKGN highlands where you beat everyone else....my man!!

I've wanted to live up there for 40 years. At Cushman.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

1 minute ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Appreciate you my man, I gotta get to a college hoops game up there at UW or Seattle University at some point!! Merry Christmas!!

Just wanted to send a little Christmas love your way.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

7 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

greed is good

you literally getting 95% more snow than anyone else here and you have a place in OKGN highlands where you beat everyone else....my man!!

This has been a strange pattern, Only time i can remember Mossman and Tim had less snow during a long chilly spell. 

[TigerWoodsLibido]

15 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I might start looking for property again around Cushman to maybe build on.

Last time i looked i found a few properties around 1500ft, That would be some serious winter weather at that elevation there.

Do it man. You deserve it!

[RentonHill]

7 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I've wanted to live up there for 40 years. At Cushman.

Didnt mean nothing against ya...just rooting for you! Ive always wanted a place at lake cavanaugh

 

[Doinko]

34 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

You are right about Eugene hitting the teens this November, for some reason I forgot about the 18 they recorded on the 19th and just remembered the 20 they had the next day. Wow, that was impressive. 

At elevation we did really well on New Year's Day 2017. We had a storm total of around 8" from that, and did not see bare ground again until the end of the month. Salem had some light accumulations on the 1st and 2nd too, but there was no appreciable snow cover to aid the lows. 

The Silverton and Canby areas were hit with some pretty intense snow bands on 1/1/17 which dropped several inches in very localized spots which stayed on the ground for some time as well. Silverton had about 4-5" with that, and then several more inches on the 7th, and maybe another inch as things wound down on the 11th, so they had snow on the ground for several weeks, which is obviously very rare for them. 

November 2019 seems to have also been impressive for temps in Eugene. 34/21 on the 30th isn't bad at all.

I didn't realize the Silverton and Canby areas did so well with that New Years event, Nice that they had snow on the ground going into that cold wave.

Overall the stretch from 1/1 to 1/17 was probably my favorite stretch of weather while living here. We had 14" of snow in that timeframe and some very cold days and nights with deep snow on the ground from the 11th to 17th.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 minutes ago, Doinko said:

November 2019 seems to have also been impressive for temps in Eugene. 34/21 on the 30th isn't bad at all.

I didn't realize the Silverton and Canby areas did so well with that New Years event, Nicole that they had snow on the ground going into that cold wave.

Overall the stretch from 1/1 to 1/17 was probably my favorite stretch of weather while living here. We had 14" of snow in that timeframe and some very cold days and nights with deep snow on the ground from the 11th to 17th I think.

The metro area was definitely the big winner in the 11-17th timeframe. South of the metro they managed some decent temps, but it wasn't a super cold upper level airmass, so most of the cold was low level. Up at our elevation our high stayed around freezing, but we were only getting down to about 20 at night even with solid snow cover and clearing. 

Conversely we had a 25/13 day on 1/4/17. 

Edited December 6, 2022 by SilverFallsAndrew

[Deweydog]

13 years ago right meow…

 

[Doinko]

2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

The metro area was definitely the big winner in the 11-17th timeframe. South of the metro they managed some decent temps, but it wasn't a super cold upper level airmass, so most of the cold was low level. Up at our elevation our high stayed around freezing, but we were only getting down to about 20 at night even with solid snow cover and clearing. 

Conversely we had a 25/13 day on 1/4/17. 

That stretch at Hillsboro is extremely impressive

[Deweydog]

And then four years later…

[Olive1010]

why does Seattle get everything

[RentonHill]

5 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

And then four years later…

I knew someone from Thunder Bay. He was a total ****

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

13 years ago right meow…

 

That was an amazing and incredibly underrated cold wave. Didn't have amazing CAA, so the highs weren't incredible impressive, but it put up some tremendous lows for having absolutely no snow cover. Eugene had 5 straight sub freezing highs and bottomed out with a low of 7. SLE hit 10 twice. Hard to get much colder than that in the Western Valleys with no snow cover. I understand why people over look it, the total lack of snow, but IMO it's the #2 arctic outbreak of this century for the Willamette Valley, obviously behind December 2013, but I would put it ahead of December 14-16, 2008 because of its duration, even though the 08' event produced fairly widespread snow. 

[Deweydog]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That was an amazing and incredibly underrated cold wave. Didn't have amazing CAA, so the highs weren't incredible impressive, but it put up some tremendous lows for having absolutely no snow cover. Eugene had 5 straight sub freezing highs and bottomed out with a low of 7. SLE hit 10 twice. Hard to get much colder than that in the Western Valleys with no snow cover. I understand why people over look it, the total lack of snow, but IMO it's the #2 arctic outbreak of this century for the Willamette Valley, obviously behind December 2013, but I would put it ahead of December 14-16, 2008 because of its duration, even though the 08' event produced fairly widespread snow. 

It was a beast by 21st century standards, and teleconnectively gorgeous.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

7 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

And then four years later…

Still amazing to me that Eugene's 2nd coldest low on record is on the same date as their coldest low, just 41 years later. A lot of similarities between the events, though the snow extended much further north with the 1972 blast, and 2013 did not match it for duration. It's also BS that the NCDC purged the all time record of -12 on 12/8/72 from their system. It's an easy date for me to remember too because it's my old man's birthday. He was 20 back in 1972 and a student at the University of Kentucky, sadly that was also the year his father died. 

[Snownerd3000]

9 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

And then four years later…

now do 08!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Deweydog said:

It was a beast by 21st century standards, and teleconnectively gorgeous.

I was actually living in Oklahoma at the time so I was only able to experience it vicariously through this forum and from reports from friends and family. As a consolation that winter was one of the best all time on the Southern Plains. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Gfs is trying to be consistent.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

18z still looking fantastic for W. Washington on Saturday. 

[Deweydog]

3 minutes ago, Snownerd3000 said:

now do 08!

Not pretty.

[DeepFriedEgg]

1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Gfs is trying to be consistent.

Landfall at Newport please...

[SnowWillarrive]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

18z still looking fantastic for W. Washington on Saturday. 

Euro will cave.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

18z still looking fantastic for W. Washington on Saturday. 

It just looks to warm! 

[LowerGarfield]

NWS Spokane just dropped a snow map for Thursday. Maybe an inch for me they think.

[Deweydog]

2 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Not pretty.

But eight days later!!!

[Deweydog]

And 50 (holy ) years ago right meow…

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Can you do December 1990? was it the 18th?

[Omegaraptor]

29 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That was an amazing and incredibly underrated cold wave. Didn't have amazing CAA, so the highs weren't incredible impressive, but it put up some tremendous lows for having absolutely no snow cover. Eugene had 5 straight sub freezing highs and bottomed out with a low of 7. SLE hit 10 twice. Hard to get much colder than that in the Western Valleys with no snow cover. I understand why people over look it, the total lack of snow, but IMO it's the #2 arctic outbreak of this century for the Willamette Valley, obviously behind December 2013, but I would put it ahead of December 14-16, 2008 because of its duration, even though the 08' event produced fairly widespread snow. 

The 7/-22 at Sunriver with 1" snow depth is pretty wild.

[HuskyMaestro]

The last of the snowmen that was built in our neighborhood. May they respawn during the next snow event sooner or later.