Hoosier Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 The sign of a truly awesome pattern, when the relaxing of the pattern only leads to a brief blip to normal temps and more #snow.. Quite a difference between here and Michigan. I'm sitting here with bare ground as the little shots of snow have melted/sublimated away, while it's a winter wonderland in Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 I basically want everyone northeast of me to get buried right now. The more snow up there, the longer it stays cold and keeps snow here when it gets here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew NE Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Would this appease the Nebraska people on here? Or no?   Capture.PNGThat is a beautiful looking map! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 That's awesome buddy!Yup.....its beautiful out there. More to come tomorrow and tomorrow night. This clipper could be possibly even more intense w higher snowfall numbers. Btw: hope you get in on the action soon. Keep an eye on the weekend. Looks interesting! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 It has been sunny here all day until about 20 minutes ago that is when a brief but intense snow show blew thru had about 15 minutes of white out conditions and enought snow to cover the cleaned off sections of driveway and add a new top coat to the ground snow. Now the sun is back out once again. temperature here is 19° with the sun back out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig-OmahaWX Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Im feeling good about this but just because a 300hr gfs says so doesnt mean it will happen. Quote 2018-2019 Snowfall Totals So Far : 59.5"Â For More Winter Weather Forecasts for 2017-2018 :Â https://www.facebook.com/snowdayweather/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Sunny and a few passing clouds and frigid. Temps remaining in the teens for highs along w blowing snow. At times it looks like an all out blizzard w those gusty winds. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 He lives 2 Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8")Â (1/1: 6.4") Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 well the Euro was a total dud. Hopefully it stays wrong.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 What a big fat egg! Will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 I basically want everyone northeast of me to get buried right now. The more snow up there, the longer it stays cold and keeps snow here when it gets here. Some nice reports out of SWMI..very small city with a well-known winery and vintner RELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI305 PM EST TUE DEC 12 2017 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON.....DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE......REMARKS.. 0245 PM HEAVY SNOW 1 W PAW PAW 42.22N 85.91W12/12/2017 M8.0 INCH VAN BUREN MI TRAINED SPOTTER  There's been more here in St. Joe since this was filed 4 hrs ago PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA1103 AM EST TUE DEC 12 2017 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON.....DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE......REMARKS.. 1103 AM SNOW SAINT JOSEPH 42.10N 86.49W12/12/2017 M2.5 INCH BERRIEN MI TRAINED SPOTTER LOW VISIBILITY, BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)  Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"  2021-22 = 35.6"    Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"  2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Looks like our best chance at accumulating snow so far at Lincoln will be Thursday. Between marginal temps and limited precip, it'll probably end up going down as another trace but we'll see. Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4"Â Â 2018-19: 55.5"Â Â 2019-20: 17.6"Â Â 2020-21: 49.4"Â Â 2021-22: 5.1"Â Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Looks like our best chance at accumulating snow so far at Lincoln will be Thursday. Between marginal temps and limited precip, it'll probably end up going down as another trace but we'll see.Yeah I think we end up seeing a mix of rain and snow Thursday with a trace recorded. Also, this is technically a clipper system so I've been posting everything regarding Thursday's "event" in that thread. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 What's with the huge temperature differences between the Great Lakes and Great Plains?       Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 What's with the huge temperature differences between the Great Lakes and Great Plains? The ridge. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Seems to be related to this.  http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ecmwf/2017121212/000/500h.conus.png  What's with the huge temperature differences between the Great Lakes and Great Plains? eauclairewiwxforcast25.PNG PierreSDwxforecast.PNG SpringfieldILwxforecast.PNG TopekaKSwxforecast.PNG ST.Cloudwxforecast.PNG TopekaKSwxforecast.PNG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 well...it maybe the 16th without anything of significance here....that was the breaking point. Getting concerned as upper 30s seem to be a best bet all next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 well the Euro was a total dud. Hopefully it stays wrong.  I told you nothing was gonna change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 i think it is safe to say that most of SE NE wont see any measurable snow for the month of Dec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Minny_Weather Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 i think it is safe to say that most of SE NE wont see any measurable snow for the month of Dec Oh my god. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 EPS has turned significantly snowier across the next 10 days in spite of the OP doing nothing.  12z today.  http://wx.graphics/models/ecmwf/2017121212/conus/eps_acc_snow_conus_360.png 00z yesterday http://wx.graphics/models/ecmwf/2017121100/conus/eps_acc_snow_conus_360.png 5 Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4")   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 i think it is safe to say that most of SE NE wont see any measurable snow for the month of DecWhats your prediction for jan-feb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Whats your prediction for jan-feb?He's already claimed 2-4" TOTAL for the winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Whats your prediction for jan-feb? My prediction for his prediction: More of the same Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)  Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"  2021-22 = 35.6"    Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"  2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Whats your prediction for jan-feb?SE NE will get nothing, not even any shortwave troughs. First snowless Winter in history for Lincoln.  Also, Hitler will be resurrected and America will turn Socialist. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Oh my god.im serious.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 EPS has turned significantly snowier across the next 10 days in spite of the OP doing nothing.  Yes, the EPS is showing a much better pattern beyond day 10, similar to the GFS.  Here is the latest EPS city chart for Cedar Rapids.  I love this new feature added by Ryan Maue. http://wx.graphics/models/ecmwf/2017121212/city/KCID_2017121212_forecast_EPS_precip_360.png 3 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2"   '21-22: 27.1"   '20-21: 52.5"   '19-20: 36.2"    '18-19: 50.2"    '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Also, Hitler will be resurrected and America will turn Socialist. Speaking of Hitler, did you know that Joseph Goebbels (Hitler's Minister of Propaganda) was the first grammar Nazi?  Winter is just getting started...too early to give up. Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Back to back great runs by the GFS. Lock it in. Guaranteed white Christmas for all.   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Back to back great runs by the GFS. Lock it in. Guaranteed white Christmas for all. Â Capture.PNGWas just coming here to post this. Pattern change is looking pretty serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Havent seen maps like that in foreverrrrrrr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajohn Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Back to back great runs by the GFS. Lock it in. Guaranteed white Christmas for all.   Capture.sure hope they legalize what College of Dupage is smoking!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Wow look at chi town!! Tom will be buried.. I’ll take the 24 also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajohn Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Havent seen maps like that in foreverrrrrrr.probably since the GHD blizzard.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 probably since the GHD blizzard....Nah, FH384 maps like that come out all the time. Probably 1/100 anywhere close to verification. Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8")Â (1/1: 6.4") Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaycee Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 mehDude seriously, what is going on with you?? I thought it was kinda funny at first, but its getting crazy now. I live in the same town as you, and i throw my share of shade but COME ONNN. Imagine if you saw someone like OKwx doing that, youd probly tell him to stfu or atleasr be annoyed, but he doesnt. So just chill breh. When theres no weather to track, just go fill your time doing something else and youll figure out that it doesnt even matter really. How bout this, if it does snow more than 6" by february, LNK_WX and i get to make a flesh flute snow-sculpture in your yard. If it doesnt, you can throw dust in my face from the blowing dust advisories. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 Dude seriously, what is going on with you?? I thought it was kinda funny at first, but its getting crazy now. I live in the same town as you, and i throw my share of shade but COME ONNN. Imagine if you saw someone like OKwx doing that, youd probly tell him to stfu or atleasr be annoyed, but he doesnt. So just chill breh. When theres no weather to track, just go fill your time doing something else and youll figure out that it doesnt even matter really. How bout this, if it does snow more than 6" by february, LNK_WX and i get to make a flesh flute snow-sculpture in your yard. If it doesnt, you can throw dust in my face from the blowing dust advisories.I will join in here. You can throw dust in my face too. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajohn Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 I will join in here. You can throw dust in my face too. Dude seriously, what is going on with you?? I thought it was kinda funny at first, but its getting crazy now. I live in the same town as you, and i throw my share of shade but COME ONNN. Imagine if you saw someone like OKwx doing that, youd probly tell him to stfu or atleasr be annoyed, but he doesnt. So just chill breh. When theres no weather to track, just go fill your time doing something else and youll figure out that it doesnt even matter really. How bout this, if it does snow more than 6" by february, LNK_WX and i get to make a flesh flute snow-sculpture in your yard. If it doesnt, you can throw dust in my face from the blowing dust advisories.why don't we all relax and smoke some of that stuff Dupage College is smoking when they posted the GFS and hope for the best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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