November 2018 Weather in the Pacific Northwest

[Requiem]

Drought talk will never end on this forum. It's ingrained into the DNA to talk about it, even when it isn't happening.

To be fair, people in OR and SW Washington are pretty justified in their drought talk and complaining, at the present time.

[Jesse]

Drought talk will never end on this forum. It's ingrained into the DNA to talk about it, even when it isn't happening.

It only happens when parts of the region are in a drought, like now. I don’t remember any happening last year, when that wasn’t so much the case. Or in previous years.

[Kayla]

You know the rule though right? As soon as you move, wherever you move to heads into its worst 5 year winter stretch and the climate back home changes to good haha.

 

Not always true... My first full winter here last year I had 216" (18 feet!) of snow. Yearly average is ~110".

[Blizzard777]

Got another .91" of rain since my last report of precip yesterday. I'm getting pretty close to 16" of rain this month now!

Do you always get these huge amounts? I am assuming upslope effect!

If so what is the drainage like around your place? That’s just a lot of rain!!!!

[Andrew.]

Not always true... My first full winter here last year I had 216" (18 feet!) of snow. Yearly average is ~110".

 

 

On my way there, packing the car now!

[Blizzard777]

Not always true... My first full winter here last year I had 216" (18 feet!) of snow. Yearly average is ~110".

Lol, you really really hit the bull eyes with your new location. Increased your odds substantially

[Timmy Supercell]

Drought talk will never end on this forum. It's ingrained into the DNA to talk about it, even when it isn't happening.

 

I'm pretty sure for a good chunk of 2016 and at least in early 2017 I was exempt from any drought status. Some probably believe the cascades have been perpetually stuck in it since 2013. Not quite the case.

 

The last 3 winters in a row have actually been decent (averaged of course, 2018 alone might not look as good).

 

And if this upcoming winter for sure is better than last one, this could be 4 winters in a row that has produced some decent pack.

[TT-SEA]

It only happens when parts of the region are in a drought, like now. I don’t remember any happening last year, when that wasn’t so much the case. Or in previous years.

 

 

We finally agree!   

[stuffradio]

Do you always get these huge amounts? I am assuming upslope effect!

If so what is the drainage like around your place? That’s just a lot of rain!!!!

Not always. I live closeish to mountains, but not right beside them. I don't know how many miles away from a mountain constitutes close. I need better drainage for the farm! It's not really possible to do much until later in Spring starting in the fall some time. I put drainage around my greenhouse last year I think it was, and that made a world of difference because it was flooding for months with several inches of standing water almost the whole winter.

[Jesse]

We finally agree!

Until you change the goalposts again!

[Esquimalt]

Not always true... My first full winter here last year I had 216" (18 feet!) of snow. Yearly average is ~110".

Where are you from?

[TT-SEA]

Until you change the goalposts again!

 

 

No matter how you slice it... most of Oregon is in serious drought and most of WA and all of southern BC is not in drought at all.

[Jesse]

No matter how you slice it... most of Oregon is in serious drought and most of WA and all of southern BC is not in drought at all.

Really don’t want to do this anymore. And I don’t think anyone else wants to see it either. I actually worded it that way with the express purpose of avoiding garnering another response from you and getting into another several post debate about the same thing for the tenth time this month.

 

Like Matt said, no one is going to get you to “fly right” and view things from a more regional, backyard-detached perspective. Kind of a waste of time.

[Blizzard777]

Not always. I live closeish to mountains, but not right beside them. I don't know how many miles away from a mountain constitutes close. I need better drainage for the farm! It's not really possible to do much until later in Spring starting in the fall some time. I put drainage around my greenhouse last year I think it was, and that made a world of difference because it was flooding for months with several inches of standing water almost the whole winter.

Fighting nature in this way is nuts! Always a good feeling though when you make some progress such as the greenhouse battle.

I’m at the bottom of a small neighborhood hill and that thing can unload two months after the winter rains have stopped. Water under the house and everywhere else. I’ve taken care of the crawlspace and currently redoing backyard and addressing the drainage at the base of the hill. Will see how it turns out. Good times

[Deweydog]

Until you change the goalposts again!

Jesse with a sports reference!

 

Awesome show! Great job!

[Jesse]

[Esquimalt]

Was just looking at the FV3...not much of a warmup before lots of cool troughs hit the coast.  

[Blizzard777]

We finally agree!

 

Didn’t see that in any of the models

[TT-SEA]

Really don’t want to do this anymore. And I don’t think anyone else wants us to either. I actually worded it that way with the express purpose of avoiding garnering another response from you and getting into another several post debate about the same thing for the tenth time this month.

 

Like Matt said, no one is going to get you to “fly right” and view things from a more regional, backyard-detached perspective. Kind of a waste of time.

 

Its not about my backyard.   

 

Its actually quantifiable:

 

Percentage in drought area:

 

Southern BC - 0% 

 

WA - 20.31% (all D1)

 

OR - 100% (mosttly D2 and higher)   

[Timmy Supercell]

Its not about my backyard.   

 

Its actually quantifiable:

 

Percentage in drought area:

 

Southern BC - 0% 

 

WA - 20.31% (all D1)

 

OR - 100% (mosttly D2 and higher)   

 

I thought all of BC was in flames. 

[Jesse]

Its not about my backyard.

 

Its actually quantifiable:

 

Percentage in drought area:

 

Southern BC - 0%

 

WA - 20.31% (all D1)

 

OR - 100% (mosttly D2 and higher)

Of course, I never once said your specific area was currently in a drought. There has certainly been a regional drought though, and it has been a regionally dry year. All this despite the fact that you happen to live in the mostly unpopulated 20% of Washington state that has seen near to above average rainfall for 2018.

[High Desert Mat!]

Of course, I never once said your specific area was currently in a drought. There has certainly been a regional drought though, and it has been a regionally dry year. All this despite the fact that you happen to live in the mostly unpopulated 20% of Washington state that has seen near to above average rainfall for 2018.

And also not to mention the fact he lives pretty much in the gloomiest part of the country someone can live in. Guys we get it, you love each other, give it a rest though. It's page after page of this crap everyday, no one can say anything about a drought anywhere without Tim repeating what he's said a thousand times already. Regurgitate the same thing over and over and it really starts defeating what your trying to get across what we all already know.

 

It rains at Tims more than most places. We get it.

Jesse loves rain more than the most of us, we get that too.

 

I moved to central Oregon because it rained so much on the west side, I appreciate it a lot more now. Wish I had more.

 

Rant over.

[Jesse]

And also not to mention the fact he lives pretty much in the gloomiest part of the country someone can live in. It's page after page of this crap everyday, no one can say anything about a drought anywhere without Tim repeating what he's said a thousand times already. Regurgitate the same thing over and over and it really starts defeating what your trying to get across what we all already know.

 

It rains at Tims more than most places. We get it.

 

I moved to central Oregon because it rained so much on the west side, I appreciate it a lot more now. Wish I had more.

 

Rant over.

Totally agree.

[TT-SEA]

Of course, I never once said your specific area was currently in a drought. There has certainly been a regional drought though, and it has been a regionally dry year. All this despite the fact that you happen to live in the mostly unpopulated 20% of Washington state that has seen near to above average rainfall for 2018.

 

More like 40% of western WA is above normal for the year (also where the water supply for the majority of the population is located)... and the majority of the state is just a little below or above normal for the year.   

 

 

 

 

I have no problem saying that SW WA and Oregon is in serious drought.    That is the reality.    For some reason... you cannot focus on that and insist that this year is so terribly dry across the "region".   Its just not true.   

 

You can talk about the Oregon ans SW WA drought situation all you want... I will not challenge that at all.      

[TT-SEA]

And also not to mention the fact he lives pretty much in the gloomiest part of the country someone can live in. Guys we get it, you love each other, give it a rest though. It's page after page of this crap everyday, no one can say anything about a drought anywhere without Tim repeating what he's said a thousand times already. Regurgitate the same thing over and over and it really starts defeating what your trying to get across what we all already know.

 

It rains at Tims more than most places. We get it.

Jesse loves rain more than the most of us, we get that too.

 

I moved to central Oregon because it rained so much on the west side, I appreciate it a lot more now. Wish I had more.

 

Rant over.

 

 

So you completely dismiss everything I say because I live in a wet area?   

 

I am not complaining about the rain at all on here.   Or even talking about the rainfall totals here.

[Jesse]

Anyone ever notice the comment element here? It’s either Phil vs Tim, or Justin vs Tim, or Flatiron vs Tim, or Jim vs Tim, or Chris vs Tim, or Bryant vs Tim etc etc etc. Seems like there’s one name that keeps coming up.

[Deweydog]

Anyone ever notice the comment element here? It’s either Phil vs Tim, or Justin vs Tim, or Flatiron vs Tim, or Jim vs Tim, or Chris vs Tim, or Bryant vs Tim etc etc etc. Seems like there’s one name that keeps coming up.

You guys are suckers.

[TT-SEA]

Anyone ever notice the comment element here? It’s either Phil vs Tim, or Justin vs Tim, or Flatiron vs Tim, or Jim vs Tim, or Chris vs Tim, or Bryant vs Tim etc etc etc. Seems like there’s one name that keeps coming up.

 

Yes... Jim and I have been going at it like crazy over the last couple years.     

 

I can make the argument that you are have contentious debates with a list that is just as long or longer.

[Jesse]

Growing support for the return to a wet pattern after day 10 on the 18z ensembles.

 

[Deweydog]

A wet up after the dry down. Crazy.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Another day that overachieved with rain. 1.20" so far.

[TT-SEA]

A wet up after the dry down. Crazy.

 

 

Does it normally rain in December here?   

[TT-SEA]

Another day that overachieved with rain. 1.20" so far.

 

 

Making up ground... good to hear.  

[Jesse]

A wet up after the dry down. Crazy.

Dry Decembers can happen. Last year. Should I go back to debating like a sucker instead of talking weather?

[Kayla]

Where are you from?

 

Portland! Most recently in the West Hills.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Both December 2016 and 2017 were dry here.

[Deweydog]

Dry Decembers can happen. Last year. Should I go back to debating like a sucker instead of talking weather?

Haha. You will anyways.

[El_Nina]

Just 0.44" on the day here now. November total is now 5.18"

[Jesse]

Haha. You will anyways.

Haha. Feeling superior to people who are debating is probably one of the primary things that draws you here. You are welcome.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Had .27" here so far.