April 2024 Weather in the PNW

[MossMan]

6 minutes ago, iFred said:

What are the ratios? Do you think Kuchera applies here?!

We might need Phil to get involved with this complex discussion. 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

13 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Yes... its been an average April so far with a ridiculous amount of complaining and whining.  

Anyone who mentions enjoying this average April weather is met with disdain and scorn like they are cheering on the death of the entire ecosystem.   

Unpleasant mix of severe climate anxiety and know-it-all, in-your-face virtue signaling.  

Below average Precip. In some places well below. 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

Low of 30 this morning

[T-Town]

11 minutes ago, iFred said:

What are the ratios? Do you think Kuchera applies here?!

Only a dusting but it was pretty wet. 

[Cascadia_Wx]

4 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Below average Precip. In some places well below. 

And also well above average temps so far for many spots. And that trend looks to continue.

[Cascadia_Wx]

Pretty morning here. Partly to mostly cloudy with some sunbreaks. 45 currently after a low of 42.

[Cascadia_Wx]

36 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

I bet there is a huge glacier on the other side

Probably much much more snow under the trees. At least during a normal snowpack year. Hiking in the Cascades for years, the differences in snowpack between the north side of an exposed peak and the south side can be pretty shocking.

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

2 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

And also well above average temps so far for many spots. And that trend looks to continue.

My temps have been pretty normal. Precip is way below normal. Not many cold or wet anomolies the last month...

[the_convergence_zone]

0.02” of rain today bringing my to 0.32” for the month. So about as wet as the average July.

Temps are like 2F above normal, but corrected for climate change that is pretty much normal now. 

[Cascadia_Wx]

2 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

My temps have been pretty normal. Precip is way below normal. Not many cold or wet anomolies the last month...

Looks warm and dry for the region the last 30 days. Not too much of a shocker there.

[Front Ranger]

6 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

And also well above average temps so far for many spots. And that trend looks to continue.

Most spots are within a degree of normal. PDX once again representing the extreme in one direction. 

[Cascadia_Wx]

1 minute ago, Front Ranger said:

Most spots are within a degree of normal. PDX once again representing the extreme in one direction. 

You remind me of a pop up ad.

[Front Ranger]

Just now, Cascadia_Wx said:

You remind me of a pop up ad.

Just the facts, man. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[Cascadia_Wx]

Just now, Front Ranger said:

Just the facts, man. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

And waste the next 2-3 hours? I’m good

[Cascadia_Wx]

12z GFS shows some pretty dead weather for us the next week at least. Not a single system making it through and temps running consistently 4-6 degrees above normal.

[the_convergence_zone]

1 hour ago, iFred said:

I mean, unlike you, I don't hate America, so I hope BYD doesn't sell cars in the United States without a proper review from the WTO.

I've got a Model S, it drives great, plenty fast, and a 10% to 80% charge takes about 15 minutes at a Supercharger. Charging at home means that I rarely have to think about range, but when I have to during a road trip, I hit about 400 miles.

While I don't agree with your stance that Mao was actually a great guy or that America would be a much better nation had the Wobblies lynched Bill Boeing (again, your views, not mine), I do agree with you that the Cybertruck looks like garbage. Well, that one giant a** wiper blade, cheap interior, and carrot shaving edges. Looking forward to the company getting a new CEO one day soon.

I wish my grandfather was still alive to see EVs. He had a depression era mindset and was obsessed with gas prices. When his old beater car broke he got a Prius and loved the gas mileage of that thing. I guarantee he would have a Model 3 right now and would have figured out where all of the free level 2 charging stations are located. 

[Cascadia_Wx]

Really hoping we can turn the corner on this early onset to the warm and dry season heading into May.

Maybe similar timing to the big pattern flip at the end of last April, but in the opposite direction. Probably just wishful thinking there.

[Phishy Wx]

45 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

No.   Satellite image shows just forest.

well dang, I figured we'd find a rare ice age holdout

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Kryten from Red Dwarf + DeLorean + normal pickup + normal EV = Cybertruck

[Rubus Leucodermis]

11 hours ago, Chewbacca Defense said:

Actually I think they are already having problems with rust.

They are.

https://www.wired.com/story/this-is-why-teslas-stainless-steel-cybertrucks-may-be-rusting/

[TT-SEA]

39 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Below average Precip. In some places well below. 

Indeed... its been basically normal in terms of temps but drier than normal.    

SEA is at -0.6 for the month.   

BLI is at -1.4 and HQM is at -0.3

 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

59 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

No.   Satellite image shows just forest.

No surprise. Mt. Si is 4,167 feet high. Permanent snow and ice does not generally start in the Washington Cascades until a peak is well over the 6,000 foot mark.

[TT-SEA]

Spring leaf out progression coming along nicely along the I-90 corridor.   Better than the last 2 years for sure as we have had some more sustained warm periods which is closer to climo... as April stats for the Seattle area indicate.

[Blizzard777]

1 hour ago, iFred said:

What are the ratios? Do you think Kuchera applies here?!

I think T-Town does all his Kucheraing during cocktail hour  

[DareDuck]

15 hours ago, Tanis Leach said:

So I have someone on the Mt. Bachelor conditions page claiming that thunderstorms are getting more common in Central Oregon. I was under the impression that there is no trend (based on what I was told in classes) or maybe a slight decrease. Can anyone confirm or deny either side of this?

I know who you are talking about. Kinda a nut job. 

[TT-SEA]

Some sun... and still a little snow on the ridge.

[Front Ranger]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

Indeed... its been basically normal in terms of temps but drier than normal.    

SEA is at -0.6 for the month.   

BLI is at -1.4 and HQM is at -0.3

 

SLE, downtown Portland, and Seattle WFO also all within a degree of average. 

[Phil]

The EPS weeklies keep the MJO very active through the end of May. Not seeing much of a niña low pass signature here, but it’s possible the model is too slow to fade the residual niño elements.

Either way, with the MJO/subseasonal elements dominant over background/low frequency elements, there should be lots of pattern variability. At least until the niña base state emerges more cleanly.

[Phil]

Also interesting we’re seeing the more stable IO/E-Hem forcing again going deeper into spring. This tells me the +AMO/+IOD regime is likely here to stay through the summer.

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Phil said:

Also interesting we’re seeing the more stable IO/E-Hem forcing again going deeper into spring. This tells me the +AMO/+IOD regime is likely here to stay through the summer.

 

What does that mean for summer?

[Front Ranger]

1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

No surprise. Mt. Si is 4,167 feet high. Permanent snow and ice does not generally start in the Washington Cascades until a peak is well over the 6,000 foot mark.

Here it doesn't start until over 12,000 feet in general. 

[Phil]

2 hours ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Really hoping we can turn the corner on this early onset to the warm and dry season heading into May.

Maybe similar timing to the big pattern flip at the end of last April, but in the opposite direction. Probably just wishful thinking there.

We have modest +dAAMt ongoing with the MJO propagating through the WHEM, so when the current pattern break down at least it will be into something wetter and more progressive. But it will only last for a few weeks given the active MJO/subseasonal forcing(s).

The dryness so far this spring is a result of residual niño elements in the general circulation (STJ, relatively higher AAM equatorward in-situ w/rt climatology) and seasonally-dependent projection(s) of the MJO. But I don’t see anything suggesting this year will be a dry tinderbox up there. Usually you’d see those red flags showing up in the tropics/general circulation by now, if so.

[Phil]

25 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

What does that mean for summer?

It suggests there will be a lot of Indian Ocean tropical forcing this summer (RMMs looping in phases 1-4). How that translates into the extratropics depends on the time of year and the ENSO evolution.

[Cold Snap]

Some flakes mixing in here currently.

[Anti Marine Layer]

14 minutes ago, Cold Snap said:

Some flakes mixing in here currently.

You must be quite high up

[ShawniganLake]

The only accumulation we’ve seen here the past couple of days has been pollen.  

[Phishy Wx]

Spokane since January

Temps:

Jan: -1.8

Feb: +3.2

March: +2.0

April to date: +4.9

 

Precip:

Jan: +.11, Snow -2.7

Feb: +.59, Snow -2.9

March: -.85 Snow: -0.5

April to date: -.22 Snow: +0.4

 

yeah is been pretty warm so far in 2024. trending drier into spring and less snow than normal in Q1.

 

In Summary for 2024 to date

Temp +2.1

Precip: -.37

Snow: -5.7

when you only average around 16" of precip a year, anything negative makes a big difference in water table and usage/restrictions 

[MossMan]

Full sun and 49 degrees currently. Brrrrrr

[Phishy Wx]

looks like perfect Graupel setup today

47 DP 22

Showers in the vicinity

[Chewbacca Defense]

49 minutes ago, Phil said:

It suggests there will be a lot of Indian Ocean tropical forcing this summer (RMMs looping in phases 1-4). How that translates into the extratropics depends on the time of year and the ENSO evolution.

meaning.........??????????