TT-SEA Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 True but it was a very close call. Lots of nonsticking snow that afternoon. Yeah... but it was going nowhere without colder air aloft. I have seen it snow all day here with 925 temps like that and its about the same as rain. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 00z GFS is underway..... Will take a look because I suppose you never know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 I just hope this Nino went far enough to purge any chance of a two year event. The payback for all of the warmth this year should be impressive when we get to that point.Mid-December enso forecast plume. Looks like warm neutral by next Fall. CFSv2 says super-nino http://iri.columbia.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/figure4.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 GFS keeps slipping the Wednesday system farther south with each run... http://s27.postimg.org/dm9qxubab/gfs_namer_072_precip_p03.gif Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 HR 72 Op(Regular version)http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2014122200/gfs_z500_mslp_namer_13.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 GFS keeps slipping the Wednesday system farther south with each run... http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/00/gfs_namer_072_precip_p03.gifYes, good eye on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 HR 72 Parallelhttp://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfsp/2014122200/gfsp_z500_mslp_namer_13.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Trying to remember... don't think so. Could have swore you posted pics of Christmas snow a couple years ago. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Mid-December enso forecast plume. Looks like warm neutral by next Fall. CFSv2 says super-nino It's pretty much alone though. Hopefully by spring this horrible warm ENSO +PDO episode will be just a bad memory. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Could have swore you posted pics of Christmas snow a couple years ago. My son says no... but they all blend together. I will go back to the December 2012 thread and check. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Mode Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 6 years ago today... http://weathercrazy.smugmug.com/Weather/2008-Snow-and-Cold/i-nhQ8WDP/0/L/Small%20First%20Day%20of%20Winter-L.jpg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Could have swore you posted pics of Christmas snow a couple years ago.A quick check of the December, 2012 thread shows this: All that complaining and he forgot he had 2" on the ground and fluffy snow falling all day on Christmas 2 years ago. Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 HR 96 Op Very weak Kona low situated right over Hawaii. Vorticity and energy west of Aleutians much weaker too.http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2014122200/gfs_z500_mslp_namer_17.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Mid-December enso forecast plume. Looks like warm neutral by next Fall. CFSv2 says super-nino http://iri.columbia.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/figure4.gif Jim no likey. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 HR 96 Parallel ..I hope it's okay posting both versions of GFS? I thought maybe you'd want to see the differences. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfsp/2014122200/gfsp_z500_mslp_namer_17.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Jim no likey. Most of the plumes are fine. The CFS is pretty much alone. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 It did snow here on Christmas Day in 2012... was supposed to be a big event but was just a coating and I remember there was light rain/sprinkles just down the road because we went for a walk that day. Literally 500 feet down the road there was nothing. I just read that post over there that BB posted here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 HR 120 op ... Very deep mega low south of Aleutian Chain http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2014122200/gfs_z500_mslp_namer_21.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 HR 120 Parallel Cut-off low north of Hawaii stronger than Ophttp://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfsp/2014122200/gfsp_z500_mslp_namer_21.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 HR 120 op ... Very deep mega low south of Aleutian Chain Both versions of GFS are looking better. Too bad that mega-low isn't 200 mi further west... Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 HR 120 op ... Very deep mega low south of Aleutian Chain Much further south than previous runs. It will be interesting to see if there are any implications to that. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 FWIW. 814temp.new.gif Bear in mind the GFS is showing a lot of fake cold. Pretty believable if that model verifies. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Both versions of GFS are looking better. Too bad that mega-low isn't 200 mi further west...Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Marshawn just went MAJOR beast mode 79yard man-style TD run. That was awesome. That has to increase the chances for a block around 140-145 W by 5% I'd think... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Marshawn just went MAJOR beast mode 79yard man-style TD run. That was awesome. That has to increase the chances for a block around 140-145 W by 5% I'd think...That was epic!! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Lynch is stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Well that's different. This low digs way further West on this run. Any further West and it would be a nice lowland snow event. http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/20141222/00/gfs_namer_129_1000_500_thick_s.gif Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 HR 144 Ophttp://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2014122200/gfs_z500_mslp_namer_25.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Well that's different. This low digs way further West on this run. Any further West and it would be a nice lowland snow event. http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/20141222/00/gfs_namer_129_1000_500_thick_s.gifYep, and notice the much better heights over the southeast US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 I still don't know and don't understand if we're supposed to be using the Regular GFS or Parallel, and which one to interpret to obtain data for forecasting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Well that's different. This low digs way further West on this run. Any further West and it would be a nice lowland snow event. http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/20141222/00/gfs_namer_129_1000_500_thick_s.gif Nice pattern, mediocre airmass. A bit like February 2, 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 In my opinion, the Parallel looks goofy with all of the low pressure areas after HR 144... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Marshawn just went MAJOR beast mode 79yard man-style TD run. That was awesome. That has to increase the chances for a block around 140-145 W by 5% I'd think...Not a Lynch fan, but that was pretty frickin unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 HR 144 Op Possible backwash snow for Puget Sound right there. This run is certainly better. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 In my opinion the Parallel is way too progressive... I'm following the model we always did before as this Op/Parallel crap is confusing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 The Seahawks are rolling, unstoppable on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 I still don't know and don't understand if we're supposed to be using the Regular GFS or Parallel, and which one to interpret to obtain data for forecasting?I go with the regular GFS, has the parallel proven itself yet? My feeling is no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 HR 174 .. Ridge shoved inland... Rising heights over southeast US/ridge though.... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2014122200/gfs_z500_vort_namer_30.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 In my opinion the Parallel is way too progressive... I'm following the model we always did before as this Op/Parallel crap is confusing...Whatever gets me snow stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Low levels are cold supposedly....http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2014122200/gfs_T2m_nwus_30.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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