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Deweydog
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I also heard several comments about the cold.  Two of them were within about a minute of each other when I was in Fred Meyer.  I lost it.  I kicked a pregnant lady in the stomach and knocked over a To

Brennan
Brennan

Honestly though, I could drive an hour from my very own home in Bellingham and see 18 inch snowfalls about 10 times a winter if it was THAT special... It takes 60 minutes to drive to Heather Meadows a

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An exciting snow pic from my backyard this evening!

 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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So what's going on guys? Mixed comments lol

2013/2014 Winter season

Coldest Low: 14 F December 7th

Coldest High: 27.3 F December 7th

Coldest Wind chill: 5 F December 7th

Lowest Dew Point: -2.2 F December 6th

Days below freezing: 5

Total Snowfall: 11 inches

Most snowfall in a Day: 8 inches

Days With Snow: 3

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Sounds like there was some new twist in the 00z data this afternoon that made all of the 00z runs go decidedly warmer at the last minute. Bummer...

How warm? And what twist?

2013/2014 Winter season

Coldest Low: 14 F December 7th

Coldest High: 27.3 F December 7th

Coldest Wind chill: 5 F December 7th

Lowest Dew Point: -2.2 F December 6th

Days below freezing: 5

Total Snowfall: 11 inches

Most snowfall in a Day: 8 inches

Days With Snow: 3

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Well this is just a great forum tonight. As much fun as it is to say how much we dislike snow and would prefer it on December 25 between 12:00 a.m. (because we don't want to have to drive home from a Christmas Eve party in the snow) and 7:00 a.m. (because we want the roads to be clear for a Christmas party later in the day) can we keep these posts to a minimum. Just a suggestion as people can post whatever they want, but it seems depressing to talk about how winter should just end on January 1 because we are close enough to spring that it doesn't matter anymore and if we get snow it might be too wet or too short lived or too white or too heavy... I don't care if it snows in February or March or October or July as long as there is snow because snow is amazing to experience and we don't get very many chances to enjoy it.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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Well this is just a great forum tonight. As much fun as it is to say how much we dislike snow and would prefer it on December 25 between 12:00 a.m. (because we don't want to have to drive home from a Christmas Eve party in the snow) and 7:00 a.m. (because we want the roads to be clear for a Christmas party later in the day) can we keep these posts to a minimum. Just a suggestion as people can post whatever they want, but it seems depressing to talk about how winter should just end on January 1 because we are close enough to spring that it doesn't matter anymore and if we get snow it might be too wet or too short lived or too white or too heavy... I don't care if it snows in February or March or October or July as long as there is snow because snow is amazing to experience and we don't get very many chances to enjoy it.

 

Stop wasting space on here with opinions.    ;)

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Hmmm I still think I'll be cold enough for a overrunning event for us tho!?

In order for overrunning item 1 must over run item 2. You'll have #2. Me thinks #1 not so much. Things are going to start shifting north though as this cold push fizzles. You could end up the big winner. Stay tuned.

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In order for overrunning item 1 must over run item 2. You'll have #2. Me thinks #1 not so much. Things are going to start shifting north though as this cold push fizzles. You could end up the big winner. Stay tuned.

Haha thank you!

2013/2014 Winter season

Coldest Low: 14 F December 7th

Coldest High: 27.3 F December 7th

Coldest Wind chill: 5 F December 7th

Lowest Dew Point: -2.2 F December 6th

Days below freezing: 5

Total Snowfall: 11 inches

Most snowfall in a Day: 8 inches

Days With Snow: 3

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00z EURO -14c PDX

-16c in Seattle

Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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Well this is just a great forum tonight. As much fun as it is to say how much we dislike snow and would prefer it on December 25 between 12:00 a.m. (because we don't want to have to drive home from a Christmas Eve party in the snow) and 7:00 a.m. (because we want the roads to be clear for a Christmas party later in the day) can we keep these posts to a minimum. Just a suggestion as people can post whatever they want, but it seems depressing to talk about how winter should just end on January 1 because we are close enough to spring that it doesn't matter anymore and if we get snow it might be too wet or too short lived or too white or too heavy... I don't care if it snows in February or March or October or July as long as there is snow because snow is amazing to experience and we don't get very many chances to enjoy it.

I think bars close at 2 am, right? Should move that up to 3 or 4 am, we'll assume most of the posters are responsible and taking public transit that runs once during owl hours or a taxi.

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Quick snow event for Seattle on the 00Z ECMWF on Saturday morning.

Actually what the 00z Euro is showing is one of the best outlooks I have seen. According to the Wundermap, precipitation stays snow from 10 a.m. Saturday till about 2 a.m. Sunday. I would take that and yes it would be epic and memorable.

Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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Actually what the 00z Euro is showing is one of the best outlooks I have seen. According to the Wundermap, precipitation stays snow from 10 a.m. Saturday till about 2 a.m. Sunday. I would take that and yes it would be epic and memorable.

 

Yeah, love the 00z Euro for us North Sounders. Great all day event on Saturday.

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Actually what the 00z Euro is showing is one of the best outlooks I have seen. According to the Wundermap, precipitation stays snow from 10 a.m. Saturday till about 2 a.m. Sunday. I would take that and yes it would be epic and memorable.

Could I get a link to the wundermap?

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So after a whole bunch of pages tonight what's the conclusion? Reading them all its hard to understand who gets what.

Basically people had no clue what was going to happen next weekend because we can't trust the models and now the models have proven that they really can't be trusted. What we know is that it will get cold and most people will probably see at least one snowflake in the next week.

Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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I just read this, this explains why the GFS showed such a new trend tonight.

 

http://www.intelligentutility.com/blog/14/01/weather-model-differences-between-gfs-american-and-ecmwf-european?quicktabs_4=1

 

 

 

WINTER WEATHER SKILL
1 Day Ahead: GFS is better
2 Days Ahead: Average of GFS and ECMWF is best
Days 3 and Beyond: ECMWF has higher skill

 

 

 GFS
  • Once a month, GFS has “dropouts”, where the forecast is a major fail, a major outlier, and very divergent from the ECMWF, which does not have dropouts. GFS scientists are trying to fix dropouts through better initializations. One proposal is to use ECMWF initializations (better quality satellite observations), which would lower dropouts by 90%, but solutions are taking time.

 

There are some other key stuff. Tonights GFS will not verify. 

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Could I get a link to the wundermap?

 

http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/beta/?lat=48.43156&lon=-121.49358&zoom=6&type=terrain&units=english&tl.play=0&tl.spd=2&viewportstart=now-5600&viewportend=now-2000&groupSevere=1&groupHurricane=1&groupFire=1&groupCamsPhotos=1&groupRealEstate=1&eyedropper=0&extremes=0&fault=0&favs=0&femaflood=0&fire=0&firewfas=0&fissures=0&fronts=0&hurrevac=0&hur=0&labels=0&lightning=0&livesurge=0&mm=1&mm.mdl=ECMWF&mm.type=SURPRE&mm.hour=111&mm.opa=100&ndfd=0&rad=0&dir=1&dir.mode=driving&sst=0&sat=0&seismicrisk=0&svr=0&ski=0&snowfall=0&stormreports=0&tor=0&tfk=0&tsunami=0&riv=0&wxsn=0&cams=0&pix=0

Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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