Nice hailstorm in Vancouver last night

OTOH the Australian BOM measured the 3.4 region as -0.37C. Not a huge difference of course, but they might use different measuring methods. And tropical tidbits is very close to the same as the BOM. So there are other numbers out there other than the CPC's. And in the grand scheme of things the differences are quite small.

12z euro looks great. Here's my prediction, we get a warning shot of backdoor cold at the start of December, then the real stuff hits December 12th and stays in that pattern beyond Christmas.

Supposedly the CPC number are derived from CDAS and CDAS is way colder. I'm not sure WTF is going on with that.

Interesting snippet from Gary Lezak regarding their latest LRC model update. Next update is this Saturday. MSP members will like this and most of the Upper MW/GL’s region..