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May 2017 Observations and Model Discussion for the Pacific Northwest

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#2301
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Posted 31 May 2017 - 11:36 AM

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Role reversal! ;)

Those temps look underdone. We will see I guess.

I said slightly warmer than average, for the record. We'll see what things look like on 6/10. The models will probably change dramatically again anyway.

 

We'll be hard pressed to get much above 80 any time soon. 



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 11:37 AM

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We'll be hard pressed to get much above 80 any time soon.


Sure. But the average high is still around 70.

I also don't see anything colder than yesterday's marine layer miracle happening over the next 10.

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 11:50 AM

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I haven't really run the numbers, but I'm guessing most places in OR/WA will avoid a top 10 warm May. Even in the I-5 corridor, where the greatest warm anomalies were concentrated.

It will probably be pretty average up here.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 11:55 AM

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The first 7-10 days of June are looking pretty warm on most models.


Except for the 12z GFS, which does weird stuff over Siberia, the modeling is pretty troughy overall @ 500mb for the first half of June, and we're priming the system for even deeper troughing for the second half of the month.

At 2m, daytime highs are average cooler than normal on the ensemble means, while overnight lows average warmer than normal, so maybe some marine cloudiness around under W/SW flow or something?
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 11:56 AM

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Sure. But the average high is still around 70.

I also don't see anything colder than yesterday's marine layer miracle happening over the next 10.

 

Yeah, average as it gets the next two weeks. Not much rain in the cards either, which is now a biggie for achieving any noteworthy cold anomalies.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 11:58 AM

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Role reversal! ;)

Those temps look underdone. We will see I guess.

I said slightly warmer than average, for the record. We'll see what things look like on 6/10. The models will probably change dramatically again anyway.


Translation: F**k that 12z GFS and its wandering ULLs!
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:02 PM

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Here is the 12Z EPS for 2 weeks from today... which is basically the middle of June.  There are some ridgy and troughy periods before that time... but it does not show a deep western trough in this time frame.  

 

eps_z500a_noram_57.png



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:06 PM

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Here is the 12Z EPS for 2 weeks from today... which is basically the middle of June. There are some ridgy and troughy periods before that time... but it does not show a deep western trough in this time frame.

eps_z500a_noram_57.png


It makes no sense to cherrypick a single day on an ensemble mean two weeks out.

Here's the five-day mean for that week-two period. ;)

F59C31F1-38AF-484E-86D9-D12431342C9E_zps
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:07 PM

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Nice try. Here's the five day mean for that week two period:

F59C31F1-38AF-484E-86D9-D12431342C9E_zps

 

 

Nice try?   I am just pointing out what it looks like at the end of the run.   You are picking up one of the alternating troughs in the 5-day mean. 

 

Even the 5-day mean is just weakly troughy here.   



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:10 PM

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Here is the mean for day 10-15.   Looks like a strong GOA trough... not a GOA ridge with a trough over the western US.  

 

eps_z500a_5d_noram_61.png



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:10 PM

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Nice try? I am just pointing out what it looks like at the end of the run.

Even the 5-day mean is just weakly troughy here.


Not trying to be rude, but cherrypicking a single day on an ensemble mean two weeks in advance is like hyping an hr300 lowland snowstorm on the GFS.
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:13 PM

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Not trying to be rude, but cherrypicking a single day on an ensemble mean two weeks in advance is like hyping an hr300 lowland snowstorm on the GFS.


Fair enough. Was expecting to see a stronger signal at that time though.

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:16 PM

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Here is the mean for day 10-15. Looks like a strong GOA trough... not a GOA ridge with a trough over the western US.

eps_z500a_5d_noram_61.png


Yeah, the GOA trough looks more like the extended jet analogs than the real -PNA analogs. Interesting 850mb temperature signal too. Cold at the pole for obvious reasons, but also cool in the PNW and the SE US with that big ULL trapped there.

0D3CA09A-4718-45C7-8B9F-CABBAC66D065_zps
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:20 PM

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2006 has been showing up quite often on the top of the analog list lately... any merit with that for this summer?

 

I only mention it because it was another weak Nina to weak/moderate Nino transition year.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:21 PM

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Beautiful day... partly to mostly sunny and pleasant.   



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:23 PM

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Definitely warmed up in the Indian Ocean over the last few weeks.   I remember a cold IO being part of the forecast for this warm season.   

 

cdas-sflux_ssta_global_1.png



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:25 PM

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Looks like an incredibly typical early June pattern coming up.


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:31 PM

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2006 has been showing up quite often on the top of the analog list lately... any merit with that for this summer?

I only mention it because it was another weak Nina to weak/moderate Nino transition year.

Models have been waffling on the idea of a Nino. The 2006 analog is probably an okay one though.

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:35 PM

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Models have been waffling on the idea of a Nino. The 2006 analog is probably an okay one though.

 

For sure... the models seem to be set on neutral now.

 

20170523.poama_nino34.png

 

 

This is leaning a little bit more towards Nino but not strongly...

 

http://iri.columbia....?enso-iri_plume



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:39 PM

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Definitely warmed up in the Indian Ocean over the last few weeks. I remember a cold IO being part of the forecast for this warm season.

cdas-sflux_ssta_global_1.png


It's more about the zonal SSTA gradient between the IO and Pacific than the absolute SSTAs in either area.

Also, that CDAS SST data is running very warm compared to every other dataset. So, I would take that into account.
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Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 12:41 PM

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It's more about the zonal SSTA gradient between the IO and Pacific than the absolute SSTAs in either area.

Also, that CDAS SST data is running very warm compared to every other dataset. So, I would take that into account.

 

I checked some other maps and none of them show a cold Indian Ocean now... as was the case earlier in the spring.  



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 01:14 PM

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Definitely warmed up in the Indian Ocean over the last few weeks. I remember a cold IO being part of the forecast for this warm season.


I think the forecast was more based on a relatively weak Asian monsoon (which seems to be playing out so far) as opposed to absolute temps in the Indian Ocean.
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Posted 31 May 2017 - 01:37 PM

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I think the forecast was more based on a relatively weak Asian monsoon (which seems to be playing out so far) as opposed to absolute temps in the Indian Ocean.

 

 

OK... good to know.   Phil said at one point that any analog right now has to include a cold Indian Ocean.   But obviously there are other factors than just the absolute SSTA in that region.  



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 01:48 PM

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I checked some other maps and none of them show a cold Indian Ocean now... as was the case earlier in the spring.


Okay, so I was typing a reply to this while watching some cumulonimbus develop, and a lightning bolt just comes down right in front of me and hits the pavement maybe 40ft away. I'm literally shaking right now. :lol:
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 01:52 PM

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Of all the close calls I've had (and there have been many) this was by far the closest. It was one of those lightning bolts that repeats itself like 5+ times, so my ears are ringing pretty badly at the moment, haha.
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 02:01 PM

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I think the forecast was more based on a relatively weak Asian monsoon (which seems to be playing out so far) as opposed to absolute temps in the Indian Ocean.


Yeah, the weak EASM in tandem with WPAC subsidence would be the conduit here, and cooler waters around 120E theoretically would support such a regime unless we somehow enter an east based La NiƱa circulation if the EPAC cools enough. However I was not expecting the ISM (Indian summer monsoon) to struggle in tandem with the East Asian summer monsoon (EASM), so this is very interesting.

When both are weak, the NH summer wavetrain becomes very amplified, almost winter-like in some cases, with cooling observed in the middle and higher latitudes, and warming observed in the tropics/subtropics.
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 02:05 PM

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There aren't many examples of profoundly weak ISM/EASM states occurring together below the intraseasonal level, but there are a few. One of the most profound examples is 1964, but maybe there are others with better ENSO matches. I'll have to analyze this more closely tonight.
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:18 PM

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Must have been one of those cells that just pop up out of no where over head where you get little to no warning until it right on top of you.I call those sneak up storms as they sneak up on you.any way that batch is now crossing the bay and weaking as no lighting is being heard on radio.

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:23 PM

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Must have been one of those cells that just pop up out of no where over head where you get little to no warning until it right on top of you.I call those sneak up storms as they sneak up on you.any way that batch is now crossing the bay and weaking as no lighting is being heard on radio.


Yeah, that's basically how it works during the summer.
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:32 PM

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At least the tropical projections have stabilized (finally). Appears as if the modeling has settled on June 8th +/- a few days for the return of subsidence to the WPAC/dateline:

http://www.tropicalt...xpos=0&ypos=339
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:36 PM

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Yeah, that's basically how it works during the summer.

true had a few of those types last summer in a over all lame season thunderstorm wise hopefully we get a couple good events this summer those so far it's been off to a over all poor start once again,

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:38 PM

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Ignoring the CFS's warm bias, it's roughly in line with the weekly ensemble means from the JMA, GGEM, EPS, NMME, and POAMA, so there's finally some stability in the modeled progression after the intraseasonal hiccup.

http://www.tropicalt...&xpos=0&ypos=46
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:11 PM

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Impressive landscape changes... first photo popped up on facebook from 3 years ago today (5/31/14) of a party that my kids were having that day.   Second photo was taken this afternoon.  

 

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:28 PM

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Those Fir trees are growing at a snails pace.
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:33 PM

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Those Fir trees are growing at a snails pace.

 

Feels like they are growing fast... but they don't look too different in those photos.   I saw some pictures from 2005 when we moved into the house and they were tiny in comparison.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:59 PM

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Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR

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(Personal Winter Totals since 2010)

'10-'11 = 58.20" (161% of normal)

'11-'12 = 49.00" (136% of normal)

'12-'13 = 16.70" (46% of normal)

'13-'14 = 9.05" (25% of normal)

'14-'15 = 2.85" (8% of normal)

'15-'16 = 54.45" (151% of normal)

'16-'17 = 63.00" (175% of normal)

 

Nov '16: 1.20" (30% of normal)

Dec '16: 11.10" (123% of normal)

Jan '17: 29.50" (246% of normal)

Feb '17: 12.90" (161% of normal)

Mar '17: 5.60" (224% of normal)

Apr '17: 2.70"

 

Nov '15: 4.00" (100% of normal) (Avg: 4.00")

Dec '15: 33.10" (367% of normal) (Avg: 9.00")

Jan '16: 10.75" (90% of normal) (Avg: 12.00")

Feb '16: 3.50" (43% of normal) (Avg: 8.00")

Mar '16: 3.10" (124% of normal) (Avg: 2.50")

Apr '16: T

 

OTHER WEATHER DATA

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*Max 1 Day Snowfall: 12.40" (01/03/2017)*

*Max Snow Depth: 21.00" (01/07/2017)*, 18.00" (12/24/2015)

Max High (F): 101 (07/02/2013), 99 (07/02/2015)

Min High (F): 6 (12/08/2013), 7 (01/06/2017), 8 (01/05/2017)

Max Low (F): 63 (07/04/2015)

Min Low (F): -20 (12/08/2013), -19 (01/06/2017), -17 (01/05/2017)

Max Wind Gusts:

58-60 (10/15/2016), 60-65 (10/26/2016) ( 55+ MPH (09/12/2016), 67 MPH (01/19/2016), 65 MPH (02/06/2015), 63 MPH (02/05/2015), 62 MPH (02/17/2016),

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T'storm Days: 8 (2017), 12 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011) - 1980-2015 Avg = 12 Days

Severe T'storms: 4 (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012)

Vicinity Severe T'storms: 9 (dates below)

09/04/2011, 09/12/2011, 08/12/2013, 08/22/2013, 08/04/2014, 08/05/2014, 06/09/2015, 07/05/2015, 07/09/2015

Earliest Warm-Core T'storm: (04/03/2016)

Latest Cold-Core T'storm (06/17/2016)

Latest <32 low (06/18/2014)

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 08:45 PM

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Feels like they are growing fast... but they don't look too different in those photos. I saw some pictures from 2005 when we moved into the house and they were tiny in comparison.


Firs slow down considerably once they reach about 30 feet or so.

All roads lead to Walgreens.  


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 08:51 PM

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There is the western trough on the 00Z GFS!   This is what I was expecting based on Phil's analysis.   

 

gfs_z500aNorm_us_44.png

 

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 08:54 PM

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Yet another completely different GFS run.

What a strange, convoluted pattern.
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Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 08:57 PM

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Those Fir trees are growing at a snails pace.

 

I can definitely see a difference.

 

How fast do the ones in your yard grow?



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 09:46 PM

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I can definitely see a difference.

How fast do the ones in your yard grow?


The ones that haven't reached maturity? I'd say at least 2-4 feet per year, depending on age, species, temperature, and precipitation. We have a few white pines and tulip poplars that are less than 30yrs old and have already reached 70-90ft. A lot of them have come down over the years as a result.

The surviving old, mature trees have been here since this area was logged back around 1800, so they're basically maxed out at this point, most having lost their tops decades ago. We only have three of them remaining on our lot.
Personal Weather Station, Live Stream on Wunderground: https://www.wundergr...BETHE62#history

Warm season 2017
Thunderstorm days: 10
Severe days: 5
Rain total: 11.58"
Highs at/above 90*F: 16
Warmest high: 99.4*F
Warmest low: 79.7*F

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 09:52 PM

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Weather trivia May 31st 20 years ago... The one and only time a Tornado Watch was issued for NE Oregon and Eastern Washington.


Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR

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(Personal Winter Totals since 2010)

'10-'11 = 58.20" (161% of normal)

'11-'12 = 49.00" (136% of normal)

'12-'13 = 16.70" (46% of normal)

'13-'14 = 9.05" (25% of normal)

'14-'15 = 2.85" (8% of normal)

'15-'16 = 54.45" (151% of normal)

'16-'17 = 63.00" (175% of normal)

 

Nov '16: 1.20" (30% of normal)

Dec '16: 11.10" (123% of normal)

Jan '17: 29.50" (246% of normal)

Feb '17: 12.90" (161% of normal)

Mar '17: 5.60" (224% of normal)

Apr '17: 2.70"

 

Nov '15: 4.00" (100% of normal) (Avg: 4.00")

Dec '15: 33.10" (367% of normal) (Avg: 9.00")

Jan '16: 10.75" (90% of normal) (Avg: 12.00")

Feb '16: 3.50" (43% of normal) (Avg: 8.00")

Mar '16: 3.10" (124% of normal) (Avg: 2.50")

Apr '16: T

 

OTHER WEATHER DATA

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*Max 1 Day Snowfall: 12.40" (01/03/2017)*

*Max Snow Depth: 21.00" (01/07/2017)*, 18.00" (12/24/2015)

Max High (F): 101 (07/02/2013), 99 (07/02/2015)

Min High (F): 6 (12/08/2013), 7 (01/06/2017), 8 (01/05/2017)

Max Low (F): 63 (07/04/2015)

Min Low (F): -20 (12/08/2013), -19 (01/06/2017), -17 (01/05/2017)

Max Wind Gusts:

58-60 (10/15/2016), 60-65 (10/26/2016) ( 55+ MPH (09/12/2016), 67 MPH (01/19/2016), 65 MPH (02/06/2015), 63 MPH (02/05/2015), 62 MPH (02/17/2016),

56 MPH (02/08/2015), 55 MPH (12/03/2015), 58 MPH (10/25/2014), 55 MPH (12/30/2011), 58 MPH (09/04/2011), 54 MPH (03/13/2011), 58 MPH (02/15/2011), 60+ (02/14/2011)

T'storm Days: 8 (2017), 12 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011) - 1980-2015 Avg = 12 Days

Severe T'storms: 4 (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012)

Vicinity Severe T'storms: 9 (dates below)

09/04/2011, 09/12/2011, 08/12/2013, 08/22/2013, 08/04/2014, 08/05/2014, 06/09/2015, 07/05/2015, 07/09/2015

Earliest Warm-Core T'storm: (04/03/2016)

Latest Cold-Core T'storm (06/17/2016)

Latest <32 low (06/18/2014)

Latest "20's" low (06/11/2016) (28 degrees)