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Posted 01 July 2019 - 04:52 PM

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Wow, his dad needs to count his blessings tonight. Glad he's safe.

Psalm 148:8 Fire and hail, snow and frost, stormy wind fulfilling his command!


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 04:58 PM

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Nearly a half inch of rain at PDX in the last hour. More than they got in all of June. They are now above average for July!

About .70” here. Still raining moderately but the wind has slacked off. Lots of distant thunder too.
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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:13 PM

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Crazy, both "halves" of this thing are still intensifying in portions.


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"Man is made by his beliefs. As he believes, so he is."

 

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"The way I look at it, as long as you make it out of a battle alive, you're one step closer to fulfilling your dream."

 

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:19 PM

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A little surprised no severe warnings have been put out for anything tonight. Looks like some pretty significant tree and power line damage in NE PDX. Seems like some of these cells would be meeting the warning criteria anywhere where storms like that are a little more common.



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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:20 PM

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Crazy, both "halves" of this thing are still intensifying in portions.


Just heard a loud boom out here. Starting to pick up here.

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:20 PM

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View of that storm cell via super-res on RadarScope.

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:23 PM

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Finally getting something out here in Gresham. ⚡

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Psalm 148:8 Fire and hail, snow and frost, stormy wind fulfilling his command!


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:24 PM

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You can see how the outflow boundary is igniting new convection as it propagates SE (including the cell over Gresham now). Similar style to the bay/river breeze storms we get here on stagnant muggy days.

The hail core also cycled at least three times.
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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:29 PM

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A little surprised no severe warnings have been put out for anything tonight. Looks like some pretty significant tree and power line damage in NE PDX. Seems like some of these cells would be meeting the warning criteria anywhere where storms like that are a little more common.


I think it would be just under criteria for wind, but possibly warned if it were a busy holiday or something.

Base velocity is suggestive of 35-40kt downdraft winds in the hail core.

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:34 PM

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63F and cloudy in Springfield.  Wonderful and cool day. Love it!!


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:38 PM

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My guess is that we would have to reach the low 80's in the valley today to really get some vertical motion primed. I am afraid the westerlies will be too deep and rapidly stabilize the mid levels. Of course I could be wrong, but I am not sold on elevated convection this evening


Good call. PDX got into the low 80s and that helped ignite the thunderstorms.
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Psalm 148:8 Fire and hail, snow and frost, stormy wind fulfilling his command!


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:39 PM

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3rd thunderstorm day in the last 7 here. Nice!


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:41 PM

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Really nice afternoon up at lake cushman today! Just got back in to Tacoma. Clouds have rolled in here. Was pretty gusty in the mountain valley this afternoon in the Olympics with lots of terrain based cumulus buildup. Was pretty breezy along the way from hoodsport to Tacoma and still is fairly breezy SW winds here.

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:44 PM

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Lovely evening...70 and sunny currently.

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:45 PM

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Loving all the reports from PDX!!!
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Layman’s terms please 😁

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:45 PM

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We got one piddly little shower and that was it. Goodbye rain, see ya in October or maybe September if we're lucky.


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No rain here until Hour 258.

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:48 PM

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Sounds like most of people around PDX except omegaprator got some interesting action this evening that’s really cool! You guys have been lucky recently there. Was glad we got a storm in the south sound last week but the t-storms over the last week in PDX have been awesome.
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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:49 PM

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Why is my last place of residence getting more exciting t'storms than K-Falls this year?  :lol:


Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR

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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

 

2010-2011 - 58.20" (161%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 16.70" (46%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
 
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
 
Nov '18 - 00.20" (5%)
Dec '18 - 05.80" (58%)
Jan '19 - 09.50(80%)
Feb '19 - 27.50" (306%)
Mar '19 - 09.00" (360%)
Apr '19 - 0.30" (30%)
 
2019-2020 - 10.50"
 
Nov '19 - 06.50" (163%)
Dec '19 - 04.00"
Jan '20 -
Feb '20 -
Mar '20 -
Apr '20 -
 
2019 Thunderstorms: 14
04/02, 04/19, 05/28, 05/31, 06/01
06/12, 06/28, 07/14, 08/09, 08/10
08/28, 09/05, 09/15, 09/16
Hailstorms: 05/28 (1/4")
Severe Wind: 0
 
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 11 (2017), 12 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011) / 1980-2015 Avg = 12 T'storm Days
Severe T'storms: 5 (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:49 PM

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Lovely evening...70 and sunny currently.

 

Still 76 here after a high of 82.  


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:50 PM

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We got one piddly little shower and that was it. Goodbye rain, see ya in October or maybe September if we're lucky.

 

I didn't get anything either...but I still found that very exciting.


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:51 PM

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Sounds like most of people around PDX except omegaprator got some interesting action this evening that’s really cool! You guys have been lucky recently there. Was glad we got a storm in the south sound last week but the t-storms over the last week in PDX have been awesome.

 

Hmm, a change from this past winter, isn't it?


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:54 PM

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Hmm, a change from this past winter, isn't it?

haha yeah I guess so. Maybe we will get some good t-storms up here this summer. PDX is kicking the Seattle areas a** when it comes to t-storms this year so far.

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 05:58 PM

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This is a great sign for winter.
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All roads lead to Walgreens.  


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:00 PM

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Why is my last place of residence getting more exciting t'storms than K-Falls this year? :lol:


You lived in PDX before?

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:01 PM

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This is a great sign for winter.

 

Nice thunderstorm back in early July 2008...


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:03 PM

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This is a great sign for winter.

 

I appreciate your optimism, but I'll believe a cold and snowy winter when I see a cold and snowy winter. After two bad ones in a row, my expectations aren't high.


No rain here until Hour 258.

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:03 PM

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You lived in PDX before?

 

Not quite but I lived on the west sides of the metro almost half my life. Hillsboro from 2004-2010 and lived in Bethany from 1999-2004.

 

Hillsboro/Forest Grove just had some nice storms and hail a little while ago.


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Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR

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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

 

2010-2011 - 58.20" (161%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 16.70" (46%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
 
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
 
Nov '18 - 00.20" (5%)
Dec '18 - 05.80" (58%)
Jan '19 - 09.50(80%)
Feb '19 - 27.50" (306%)
Mar '19 - 09.00" (360%)
Apr '19 - 0.30" (30%)
 
2019-2020 - 10.50"
 
Nov '19 - 06.50" (163%)
Dec '19 - 04.00"
Jan '20 -
Feb '20 -
Mar '20 -
Apr '20 -
 
2019 Thunderstorms: 14
04/02, 04/19, 05/28, 05/31, 06/01
06/12, 06/28, 07/14, 08/09, 08/10
08/28, 09/05, 09/15, 09/16
Hailstorms: 05/28 (1/4")
Severe Wind: 0
 
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 11 (2017), 12 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011) / 1980-2015 Avg = 12 T'storm Days
Severe T'storms: 5 (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:07 PM

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I appreciate your optimism, but I'll believe a cold and snowy winter when I see a cold and snowy winter. After two bad ones in a row, my expectations aren't high.


Didn’t you complain non-stop about the 5 weeks of inane arctic cold we had last winter?
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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:09 PM

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Didn’t you complain non-stop about the 5 weeks of cold we had last winter?

 

Keyword snowy.

 

Feb 2019 was nothing but straight disappointment through and through. I was complaining because if it wasn't going to snow, it might as well just not be cold at all.

 

The highlight of that month locally was the 1.9" of rain that fell in one day on February 12.


No rain here until Hour 258.

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:11 PM

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Keyword snowy.

Feb 2019 was nothing but straight disappointment through and through. I was complaining because if it wasn't going to snow, it might as well just not be cold at all.


Your opinion I guess. And as we all know those things are like omega blocks.

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:11 PM

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I appreciate your optimism, but I'll believe a cold and snowy winter when I see a cold and snowy winter. After two bad ones in a row, my expectations aren't high.

 

OK, I understand your last criticism, but I have to say this one is a bit unfounded. Yes, last winter was horrible for us. It was a crappy winter for many on the westside, yes. But 2017-2018,  was not bad at all. We had a White Christmas and an ice storm, and then two snowstorms in February which dropped several inches on most of the city.


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-Seifer Almasy (VIII)


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:11 PM

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I appreciate your optimism, but I'll believe a cold and snowy winter when I see a cold and snowy winter. After two bad ones in a row, my expectations aren't high.

 

 

Dude... last February and the first half of March was pretty much unprecedented for much of western WA in terms of snow and consistent cold.     And fairly historic to south of you as well.   That was just dumb luck for you... during a wicked cold pattern across most of the western US.     Nature delivered in an historic way for the PNW last winter.   Ask Kayla in Bozeman for her thoughts.   ;)


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:15 PM

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Nice thunderstorm back in early July 2008...

 

Several that year that were memorable. 05/24/2008, all 3 metro counties simultaneously under SVR warnings, plus minor flooding.

06/29/2008, nice lightning event, mammatus/crepuscular ray sunset I wished I could take pictures of (a couple months before my first camera).

07/03/2008 yeah that was a nice late night and early AM storm, shook my apartment at 2 in the morning.

08/16-17 2008, two nights/mornings back to back.


Weather Data for Klamath Falls, OR

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Snowfall (with % of seasonal average)

 

2010-2011 - 58.20" (161%)
2011-2012 - 49.00" (136%)
2012-2013 - 16.70" (46%)
2013-2014 - 9.05" (25%)
2014-2015 - 2.90" (8%)
2015-2016 - 54.45" (151%)
2016-2017 - 63.00" (175%)
2017-2018 - 18.10" (50%)
 
2018-2019 - 52.30" (145%)
 
Nov '18 - 00.20" (5%)
Dec '18 - 05.80" (58%)
Jan '19 - 09.50(80%)
Feb '19 - 27.50" (306%)
Mar '19 - 09.00" (360%)
Apr '19 - 0.30" (30%)
 
2019-2020 - 10.50"
 
Nov '19 - 06.50" (163%)
Dec '19 - 04.00"
Jan '20 -
Feb '20 -
Mar '20 -
Apr '20 -
 
2019 Thunderstorms: 14
04/02, 04/19, 05/28, 05/31, 06/01
06/12, 06/28, 07/14, 08/09, 08/10
08/28, 09/05, 09/15, 09/16
Hailstorms: 05/28 (1/4")
Severe Wind: 0
 
Top 5 Daily Snows: 12.40" (01/03/2017), 8.20" (11/23/2010), 7.50" (12/13/2015), 6.60" (02/07/2017), 6.20" (03/10/2019)
Honorable Mention: 6.00" (03/20/2012), 6.00" (02/28/2012), 5.70" (12/14/2016), 5.50" (01/18/2012)
Max Depths: 21.00" (01/07/2017), 18.00" (12/24/2015), 11.00" (11/23/2010), 9.50" (02/27/2019), 9.00" (02/28/2012)
 
T'storm Days: 14 (2019), 16 (2018), 11 (2017), 12 (2016), 20 (2015), 21 (2014), 16 (2013), 2 (2012), 12 (2011) / 1980-2015 Avg = 12 T'storm Days
Severe T'storms: 5 (08/10/2019), (08/08/2017), (07/24/2017), (01/19/2016), (08/05/2012) 
"Almost" Severe: 2 (08/10/2017), (05/04/2016)
Vicinity Severe T'storms (close enough to hear, with official severe reports)
(06/26/2017), (08/05/2016), (07/09/2015), (07/05/2015), (06/09/2015), (08/05/2014), (08/04/2014), (08/22/2013), (08/12/2013), (09/12/2011), (09/04/2011)

 


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:15 PM

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I understand why Omegaraptor hated last winter. I hated it too, even though I understand that for many areas it was historic. My personal experience with last winter didn't entail anything exciting but disappointment, but overall it was an excellent winter regionally. Just not so much in Portland.


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"The way I look at it, as long as you make it out of a battle alive, you're one step closer to fulfilling your dream."

 

-Seifer Almasy (VIII)


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:16 PM

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Dude... last February and the first half of March was pretty much unprecedented for much of western WA in terms of snow and consistent cold.     And fairly historic to south of you as well.   That was just dumb luck for you... during a wicked cold pattern across most of the western US.     Nature delivered in an historic way for the PNW last winter.   Ask Kayla in Bozeman for her thoughts.   ;)

There was no boating in February or March!

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:17 PM

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Dude... last February and the first half of March was pretty much unprecedented for much of western WA in terms of snow and consistent cold.     And fairly historic to south of you as well.   That was just dumb luck for you... during a wicked cold pattern across most of the western US.     Nature delivered in an historic way for the PNW last winter.   Ask Kayla in Bozeman for her thoughts.   ;)

 

After Las Vegas got more snow than us last winter? I'm done with optimism. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised next winter, but odds are I probably won't be.


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:19 PM

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After Las Vegas got more snow than us last winter? I'm done with optimism. 

 

 

Yeah... definitely sucks to miss out on that insane 6 weeks if snow and cold is your thing.   I get that.   But nature absolutely unloaded on the West.    It was not a dud.



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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:20 PM

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I understand why Omegaraptor hated last winter. I hated it too, even though I understand that for many areas it was historic. My personal experience with last winter didn't entail anything exciting but disappointment, but overall it was an excellent winter regionally. Just not so much in Portland.


Yeah but to say he has his doubts about next winter because Mother Nature didn’t deliver snow and cold last year is pretty silly, considering the historic cold pattern that locked into the western US last February/early March and brought snow to much of the region.
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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:22 PM

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Yeah but to say he has his doubts about next winter because Mother Nature didn’t deliver snow and cold last year is pretty silly, considering the historic cold pattern that locked into the western US last February/early March and brought snow to much of the region.

 

It is, but I get the emotion behind it. I'm not going to lie and say that it was pleasant seeing 15+ inches of snow fall fifty miles north and fifty miles south of us, but I do recognize that it's probably insanely rare to be so closely screwed in a winter.


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:30 PM

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We haven't had a wet winter since 16-17 either, even though for some reason Portland is stereotyped as a place where it rains all the time.

 

Sacramento has had more rain than us YTD. That's depressing.


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:30 PM

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Good call. PDX got into the low 80s and that helped ignite the thunderstorms.


Watched the initial convection start from McMinnville earlier. Maybe 10 miles north. Only 75f there. Further south it was even cooler. Position of the low probably had more influence on the initiation than actual surface temperature as the mid level moisture was present throughout the valley.

The flow around the low acted as the trigger. Areas to the south were stabilized by the onshore flow.
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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:31 PM

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Got plenty of both lightning bugs and frequent lightning. Currently 90 degrees, feels like 95.
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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:33 PM

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We haven't had a wet winter since 16-17 either, even though for some reason Portland is stereotyped as a place where it rains all the time.

 

Sacramento has had more rain than us YTD. That's depressing.

 

What is your favorite weather event? That you have ever experienced?


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:38 PM

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Lightning bugs is about 5/sec. Lightning flash is about 1 every 5 sec.
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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:40 PM

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What is your favorite weather event? That you have ever experienced?

 

February 2014 arctic blast was pretty wonderful, as was 1/10/17.

 

I'll finally admit to being very young. I was five years old when December 2008 happened, so I don't remember that one all too well.


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:46 PM

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February 2014 arctic blast was pretty wonderful, as was 1/10/17.
 
I'll finally admit to being very young. I was five years old when December 2008 happened, so I don't remember that one all too well.


Whoah. Even K12 is like a forum elder compared to you. This definitely clears things up a little.
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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:49 PM

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February 2014 arctic blast was pretty wonderful, as was 1/10/17.

 

I'll finally admit to being very young. I was five years old when December 2008 happened, so I don't remember that one all too well.

 

Wow, you're younger than me? Huh.


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:51 PM

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One portion of our visitor this evening seems to be (maybe) re-intensifying over the Cascades. Already see heavier precipitation towards the core of the cell.


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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:58 PM

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Wow, you're younger than me? Huh.


I’m gonna be nicer to him now. For some reason I always pictured a grown a** man. 😂

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 07:01 PM

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Whoah. Even K12 is like a forum elder compared to you. This definitely clears things up a little.

 

He seems to think 2016-17 was a long time ago, so it makes sense.


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