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2 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said:

Nice try, enjoy the weekend.

We will definitely enjoy it.     And my last post was pure sarcasm. 😁

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8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

One side of the political spectrum seems to be obsessed with forced moral outrage over climate change.   That pushes the other side away.   The fact is that the Earth goes through cycles all the time.   The medieval warm period was followed by the little ice age and now its warming again.   So part of it is natural.    But the AOCs of the world do more to hurt the cause rather than help with the histrionics about the world ending in 10 years.   Because it won't.    Alligators once lived in the arctic and we are all still here.   Life on Earth absolutely thrived when it was much warmer than it is now.    

Holy crap, I (mostly) agree with this. 😱 

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16 minutes ago, Phil said:

To which primitive models are you referring?

Almost all of the projections have overestimated warming under scenarios most similar to the observed GHG increases (particularly in the tropical upper troposphere, which is where the greatest thermalization of intercepted LWR will occur under any positive H2O feedback scenario).

Simple energy exchange models from as early on as the 1960s developed by Manabe & Wetherald forecast within 0.5°C. Fairly large errors, but pretty good for its time and its methods.

Ensemble means from more sophisticated models that factored in global circulation developed in the late 80s (Hansen et al., Stuart et al.) nailed the last 40 years of warming within 0.1°C.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Holy crap, I (mostly) agree with this. 😱 

We both like 70s in the summer as well.     We actually agree on way more than you like to pretend on here.  ;)

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23 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

One side of the political spectrum seems to be obsessed with forced moral outrage over climate change.   That pushes the other side away.   The fact is that the Earth goes through cycles all the time.   The medieval warm period was followed by the little ice age and now its warming again.   So part of it is natural.    But the AOCs of the world do more to hurt the cause rather than help with the histrionics about the world ending in 10 years.   Because it won't.    Alligators once lived in the arctic and we are all still here.   Life on Earth absolutely thrived when it was much warmer than it is now.    

It is true there’s natural cycles to things…and I don’t want to get too deep into it but there’s human caused global warming which is not part of the natural cycle…which is the problem that we ought to figure out and change. I’m not on the AOC train there’s definitely some climate alarmists that are over dramatizing things but there is a real problem. 

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Summer stats

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Summer rainfall-3.91”

August rainfall-0.00”

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2 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

It is true there’s natural cycles to things…and I don’t want to get too deep into it but there’s human caused global warming which is not part of the natural cycle…which is the problem that we ought to figure out and change. I’m not on the AOC train there’s definitely some climate alarmists that are over dramatizing things but there is a real problem. 

I didn’t realize my kind of purposefully over the top comment would create such a big commotion, but you have been a real voice of reason in the discussion.

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Summer ☀️ grows while Winter ❄️  goes

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Any degree or two of warming humans cause is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Fewer people die because of climate now than ever before. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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7 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

It is true there’s natural cycles to things…and I don’t want to get too deep into it but there’s human caused global warming which is not part of the natural cycle…which is the problem that we ought to figure out and change. I’m not on the AOC train there’s definitely some climate alarmists that are over dramatizing things but there is a real problem. 

I totally agree.   We should do what we can and not ignore our impact. 

 

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Anyways…I’m more than willing to discuss my stance on this in another thread since it could be a long discussion and there’s currently active weather to talk about…don’t want to clog the thread. 
 Down to 65 here fairly warm evening. Looking forward to a wet and cool start to July personally. 

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Summer stats

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Summer rainfall-3.91”

August rainfall-0.00”

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1 hour ago, Meatyorologist said:

Dude what even are those websites? Do some basic insight into where you get your information man.

Saying "climate change has been hyped" then citing Al Gore's presidential campaign trail and some really sketchy clickbait hubs is just a bad look and very lazy.

Here's what the website is.

https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions/

Also, I don't deny climate change is a problem, but fearmongering is not exactly helpful either.

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8 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Does that mean we all need to become vegetarians?

Cows are bad news... I know that much.

But I do like hamburgers.   

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00Z GEFS is 2 degrees warmer for Seattle for the 4th compared to the 12Z run.   

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6 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Here's what the website is.

https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions/

Also, I don't deny climate change is a problem, but fearmongering is not exactly helpful either.

Just saying... But that site's biggest funders are Scaife and Exxon.

It's nice to see how civil everyone is about this discussion.

 

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Location: Bethany, OR at about 250'

Snowfall:

     2021/2022: 6"

     2020/2021: 4.5"

     2019/2020: 1"

     2018/2019: 3.7"

     2017/2018: 5.5"

     2016/2017: 18"

     2015/2016: 1"

     2014/2015: 0"

     2013/2014: 9"

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Just now, Doiinko said:

Just saying... But that site's biggest funders are Scaife and Exxon.

It's nice to see how civil everyone is about this discussion.

 

Clicking on the 'Teams' page I might as well have read Trump's campaign force. I bet half of them are on a first name basis with Tucker Carlson. Their top three recommended projects are about how Covid response was too extreme, Twitter is too woke, and about the protection of the second amendment. Their top moniker for themselves is an "advocate for freedom."

A minor bias issue? nahhhhh

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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Since we are off topic.   How about USC and UCLA going to the Big Ten??  

Oregon can't stay in the PAC-12 now.    Don't think the Huskies can either.    And what happen to schools like WSU and OSU?      What a mess.

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17 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

Just saying... But that site's biggest funders are Scaife and Exxon.

It's nice to see how civil everyone is about this discussion.

 

Sorry... They're actually 3rd and 5th, I was looking at something outdated. 1st is "Dunn's foundation for the Advancement of Right Thinking" and 2nd is Donor's Trust. 4th is the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation.

 

Location: Bethany, OR at about 250'

Snowfall:

     2021/2022: 6"

     2020/2021: 4.5"

     2019/2020: 1"

     2018/2019: 3.7"

     2017/2018: 5.5"

     2016/2017: 18"

     2015/2016: 1"

     2014/2015: 0"

     2013/2014: 9"

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22 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

00Z GEFS is 2 degrees warmer for Seattle for the 4th compared to the 12Z run.   

gfs-ensemble-all-avg-nw-t2m_f_max6-6979200.png

Mark Nelsen made a blog post about the weekend, we aren't looking at too much rain in Portland at least: https://fox12weather.wordpress.com/2022/06/30/great-early-summer-weather-pattern-but-cooler-with-shower-chance-for-holiday-weekend/

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Location: Bethany, OR at about 250'

Snowfall:

     2021/2022: 6"

     2020/2021: 4.5"

     2019/2020: 1"

     2018/2019: 3.7"

     2017/2018: 5.5"

     2016/2017: 18"

     2015/2016: 1"

     2014/2015: 0"

     2013/2014: 9"

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Sunday is little drier... Monday looks wetter on the 00Z ECMWF.    Only 61 at SEA that day with rain not lifting out until evening.   

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At least I'll see some thunderstorms 😭.

This is Chennai in India by the way.

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Location: Bethany, OR at about 250'

Snowfall:

     2021/2022: 6"

     2020/2021: 4.5"

     2019/2020: 1"

     2018/2019: 3.7"

     2017/2018: 5.5"

     2016/2017: 18"

     2015/2016: 1"

     2014/2015: 0"

     2013/2014: 9"

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RGEM brings the fun Saturday night into Sunday morning

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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(least unstable day in NE Oregon)

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 45.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; February 24th, 2022

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

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what's the easiest way to immigrate to Canada?  the company I work for is Canadian based (offices in Toronto and Calgary)

after what's happen with the rogue Koch funded SCOTUS over the past week, this country's best days are behind it.  I'll be 'celebrating' this weekend with an upside down Flag.

Cheers!

 

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5 hours ago, Phishy Wx said:

what's the easiest way to immigrate to Canada?  the company I work for is Canadian based (offices in Toronto and Calgary)

after what's happen with the rogue Koch funded SCOTUS over the past week, this country's best days are behind it.  I'll be 'celebrating' this weekend with an upside down Flag.

Cheers!

 

Move there and apply for citizenship after 4 years I believe, you can have dual if you want

 

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