james1976 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 We've seen this happen way too often in the 10+ day range lately. You would think one of these times it would actually verify. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bud2380 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 18z GFS has no storm until very late 300 hours plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 12z JMA...takes a low straight out of the GOM and heads N/NE towards the OV...cold enough for snow on the NW side of the system. This system is part of the cut-off low that spins near the 4 corners/N Mexico region Day 4-6. If this system does in fact form, IMO, it would correlate with the Oct 19th-21st stationary boundary that lead to a wave of low pressure to form out of the TX Pan Handle and tracked up the OV and bombed out towards NE. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/jma/2016112712/jma_mslpa_us_8.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/jma/2016112712/jma_mslpa_us_9.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/jma/2016112712/jma_T850_us_9.png 12z Euro has the storm but a tad farther east and less amplified... Day 7-8... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2016112712/ecmwf_mslpa_us_8.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2016112712/ecmwf_mslpa_us_9.pngBAM!!!!!!!! Thats the track I need to get inundated with snow here in SEMI. The 12z JMA better come true. @Jaster: are you ready for this, if we do, indeed get this storm to track like this????? That's gonna be a lot of snow for us. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 18z GFS has no storm until very late 300 hours plus.Do you get 12z EPS snowfall amounts? How did the Control look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 EPS control is not very impressive. It shows 1" or less for the upcoming weekend system, then kind of warms up again and brings some rain to much of the midwest before a bit more snow late in the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 EPS control is not very impressive. It shows 1" or less for the upcoming weekend system, then kind of warms up again and brings some rain to much of the midwest before a bit more snow late in the run.Does that go out 10 days? Or more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Eps goes out to 360 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Blah blah blah....10 days out over and over just to disappear. About as good as the Packers season right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Blah blah blah....10 days out over and over just to disappear. About as good as the Packers season right now. Aaron Rodgers says, "R-E-L-A-X" Although, if by December 7th the models still show winter ten days out then it's time to dust off the panic button. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Overnight euro now shows heavy snow next Sunday in Iowa and other areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 EPS Control is similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 DMX going dry next weekend. Says the Euro is an outlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 IMG_0276.PNGHey Bud, we created a thread for storm threats/discussion 5+ days out...just an FYI... http://theweatherforums.com/index.php/topic/1449-winter-2016-medium-to-long-range-discussion-5-days-out/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 The waters in the N PAC are warming considerably where the pattern is beginning to shift into a semi-permanent ridge this month. If the ridge maintains itself in this region of the N PAC, it will produce an ideal storm track. I remember last year this is exactly where the ridge parked itself and the PNA held negative, sometimes deeply. This will keep the activity across the Midwest/Plains/Lakes region. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/ocean/cdas-sflux_ssta7diff_global_1.png As long as you can keep the trough NW of Hawaii, it keeps the central CONUS colder... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112806/gfs-ens_z500aMean_npac_7.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112806/gfs-ens_z500aMean_npac_12.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 R-E-L-A-X Although, if by December 7th the models still show winter ten days out then it's time to dust off the panic button. Very well put. If this proves to be yet another false alarm for real winter conditions, then we'll have to start questioning if it will ever get legs enough to be more than a mediocre season fraught with false starts. Gonna try to remain optimistic. The problem with winter is that I start wanting it 4 months before climo says it normally begins around my region. It's a lot of time commitmed to hopes and hypes LOL. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Dr. Cohen seeing the PV illustrated on the GEFS...I touched on this yesterday morning...this could get real interesting... FollowJudah Cohen@judah47Skepticism always needed of GFS predictions of #polarvortex but latest suggestive of extreme #cold in Western North America. Blog late today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Dr. Cohen seeing the PV illustrated on the GEFS...I touched on this yesterday morning...this could get real interesting...I hope judah has more success this winter than last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I hope judah has more success this winter than lastSo far so good...it's crazy to say, but GFS has been doing quite well this season in the strato dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 BAM!!!!!!!! Thats the track I need to get inundated with snow here in SEMI. The 12z JMA better come true. @Jaster: are you ready for this, if we do, indeed get this storm to track like this????? That's gonna be a lot of snow for us. I be ready, bro! Let 'er rip JMA! Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 CO low eye candy for Tom and Chicago peeps Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 NOAA inching their way towards a cold look (for them) after the 10th: Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 CO low eye candy for Tom and Chicago peeps 20161127 GFS 12z 276hr Surf.PNG12z GFS back to showing it... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2016112812/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_41.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2016112812/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_42.png 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 12z GFS.... http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2016112812/276/snku_acc.conus.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 @ Tom That 2nd image is sweet, just wish it was not a d10+ map (sigh) GFS certainly hinting that there will be serious cold and contrast to mix it up in that time period: Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 @ Tom That 2nd image is sweet, just wish it was not a d10+ map (sigh) GFS certainly hinting that there will be serious cold and contrast to mix it up in that time period: 20161128 GFS 12z 228-240hr temps.PNGI love to track a big storm that has huge temp gradients and big time snows that unleash the arcitc hounds behind the storm. Of course, you would like to be on the snowy side of things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I love to track a big storm that has huge temp gradients and big time snows that unleash the arcitc hounds behind the storm. Of course, you would like to be on the snowy side of things! I've seen that even the BSR would hint at something around the 9th (looked CO low like). Should be noted that the experts on that rule have stated that there is a "300-400 mile placement error" when performing the map overlay trick. Nonetheless, it showed a strong system moving east from central Indiana in the timeframe. Another puzzle piece. I'd love to kick off this season in Dec 2000 bliz style! 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 12z GFS.... http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2016112812/276/snku_acc.conus.pngSweet! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 12z GFS back to showing it... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2016112812/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_41.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2016112812/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_42.pngLook at all that moisture from map#1 heading into SEMI in the form of snow and map#2 simply draws heavy snow into the area and wind as well. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Hopefully this southeast ridge doesn't have too much of an influence on this storm. I did some reading and a lot of mets have been alluding to this ridge for a few days now. Could spell some GLC action if it pans out. I sometimes follow along with EC threads since they seem to have a large batch of snow weenies there and will kick off a thread a lot sooner than we do in the Midwest. I also look for hints that they're worried, cuz their bad trend is usually our good trend. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I sometimes follow along with EC threads since they seem to have a large batch of snow weenies there and will kick off a thread a lot sooner than we do in the Midwest. I also look for hints that they're worried, cuz their bad trend is usually our good trend. Yeah. If the east coast and the northwest mention getting screwed it usually means we win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Yeah. If the east coast and the northwest mention getting screwed it usually means we win.If someone mentions the EC getting screwed(in a EC thread) it means nothing because east coast snow treads would always tell you they get screwed on every storm at all times during the year. Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 If someone mentions the EC getting screwed(in a EC thread) it means nothing because east coast snow treads would always tell you they get screwed on every storm at all times during the year. Is that before or after 3 feet has fallen?? Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Now this response is truly LOL ROFL worthy PARD, I am convinced that all storms begin as a GLC's, and it takes strong atmospheric anomalies to alter their path. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Is that before or after 3 feet has fallen?? Lol. Great point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Chambana posted Alaska going in the icebox this weekend, coldest spot forecasted to drop to -68. We are making progress, the cold is finally on this side of the globe. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Still a lot of volatility with with the CFSv2 for December... http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/mchen/CFSv2FCST/monthly/images/summaryCFSv2.NaT2m.201612.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 I sometimes follow along with EC threads since they seem to have a large batch of snow weenies there and will kick off a thread a lot sooner than we do in the Midwest. I also look for hints that they're worried, cuz their bad trend is usually our good trend. Good move Jaster! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 I'm liking the CPC update on the December outlook. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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