Jump to content
The Weather Forums

PNW January 2023 Observations and Discussion


Recommended Posts

2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

They often seem to be colder at the KGW station than PDX with strong CAA.

They pulled off a 20/15 in January 2004 while PDX was 24/18, and of course in February 1989 they pulled off a 12/8 while PDX was 15/9.

They also had a 22/17 day in 2014

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Staff

Total snow per 12Z ECMWF with Saturday front... step back for places south of Seattle compared to 00Z run.

ecmwf-deterministic-washington-total_snow_kuchera-4993600.png

  • Sad 2
  • scream 1
  • Sick 3

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Longtimer
42 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

No, but every other Portland station did. Downtown hit 16 and the NWS Office on 122nd hit 17. PDX was a warm outlier as it often is.

Where do you find the official numbers from the NWS office?

  • Like 1

Summer ☀️ grows while Winter ❄️  goes

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Longtimer
2 minutes ago, Doinko said:

Block is farther south on the run, doesn't float off as fast as the 00z. Seems like cold air is a bit faster to arrive as well

Seems to be a mini trend of making it a bit more progressive.

  • scream 1
  • Sick 1

My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, Cascadia_Wx said:

Didn’t the Puget Sound area see some decent snow events in Late November and December? 

That is the one consolation for us northerners.

At this stage, I am deciding what to do on Sunday.  Should be a good day for a hike in brisk, dry weather. Ground should be frozen so safe to choose some trail that would normally be muddy and sloppy.

  • Like 2
It's called clown range for a reason.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Didn’t the Puget Sound area see some decent snow events in Late November and December? 

Yep. Northern parts of the Puget sound also had the big snowstorm in late December going into the cold.

Don't think anyone has seen much real snow in the Willamette Valley yet

  • Like 3
  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Longtimer
Just now, Rubus Leucodermis said:

That is the one consolation for us northerners.

At this stage, I am deciding what to do on Sunday.  Should be a good day for a hike in brisk, dry weather. Ground should be frozen so safe to choose some trail that would normally be muddy and sloppy.

Go to Costco?

  • Like 1
  • Excited 1

My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Longtimer

At least the GFS PNA looks one notch less vomit worthy. Perhaps we can still get a late February event like 2011 or 2018 or 2019 or 2021 or 2022. 

48C1CAEE-6B3C-4EB6-86D6-9123B1339C87.jpeg

6D9CF455-8D42-467C-A839-442136EADD6F.jpeg

  • Snow 2

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Didn’t the Puget Sound area see some decent snow events in Late November and December? 

Yea I strung together this. However, I never had more than 4ish inches on the ground at once tbh

11/29: 1.5in
11/30-12/1: 3in
12/2 morning: .5in 
12/2-12/3: 4in
12/4: 2in
12/18: .2in
12/19: .2in
12/20: .6in
12/21: .3in
1/21: Trace 
Edited by SouthHillFrosty
  • Sad 1
  • Snow 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Longtimer
1 minute ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Yea I strung together this. However, I never had more than 4ish inches on the ground at once tbh

11/29: 1.5in
11/30-12/1: 3in
12/2 morning: .5in 
12/2-12/3: 4in
12/4: 2in
12/18: .2in
12/19: .2in
12/20: .6in
12/21: .3in
1/21: Trace 

Looks terrible. I think we had a slushy 1/3 of an inch on 12/4. Peak accumulation of the winter so far!

  • Like 2
  • Sad 1
  • Snow 2

Summer ☀️ grows while Winter ❄️  goes

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Yea I strung together this. However, I never had more than 4ish inches on the ground at once tbh

11/29: 1.5in
11/30-12/1: 3in
12/2 morning: .5in 
12/2-12/3: 4in
12/4: 2in
12/18: .2in
12/19: .2in
12/20: .6in
12/21: .3in
1/21: Trace 

I haven't had more than 4" of snow on the ground in 6 years

  • Like 1
  • Sad 2
  • scream 1
  • Sick 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, SnowWillarrive said:

Honestly it was pretty weak south of Everett. 

There were pockets of where it was decent but places like Seattle Metro didn't get a ton (2") and I know areas toward Bonney Lake also got very little.

I'm hoping that at least 1 area scores this upcoming week.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Longtimer
1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Highs from Sunday through Tuesday per 12Z ECMWF.

ecmwf-deterministic-washington-t2m_f_max6-5036800 (1).png

ecmwf-deterministic-washington-t2m_f_max6-5123200 (1).png

ecmwf-deterministic-washington-t2m_f_max6-5209600 (1).png

One thing I will say is that at least this non stop drizzle fest up here will finally come to an end. And I usually run 2-4 degrees under those numbers so there is that as well. 

  • Like 3

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Staff
1 minute ago, Doinko said:

What are lows like?

Assuming low temps happen between 4 a.m. - 10 a.m.

 

ecmwf-deterministic-washington-t2m_f_min6-5015200.png

ecmwf-deterministic-washington-t2m_f_min6-5101600.png

ecmwf-deterministic-washington-t2m_f_min6-5188000.png

  • Like 2
  • Shivering 2

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Longtimer
20 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Where do you find the official numbers from the NWS office?

Couple of ways. Their official dataset is on the NOAA NCEI site

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/cdo-web/datasets/GHCND/stations/GHCND:USC00356750/detail

or if you want to play around in xmACIS you can also find them there under 'Portland WFO'

image.png

Edited by BLI snowman
  • Like 2
  • Thanks 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The northwest has such a weird winter temp profile, especially with the continued dominance of February in recent years. This map shows the average coldest day for stations across the US (1991-2020). Much of the area is coldest at the end of December except for widespread pockets of stations (especially near the coast) that are coldest in the beginning to middle of February.

1245091362_ScreenShot2023-01-25at10_39_19AM.thumb.png.b751ed3c0e72fd8c437c44ec102a7e1d.png

1002774657_ScreenShot2023-01-25at10_39_31AM.thumb.png.f6049976106168893a26686027583406.png

  • Like 4

Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 7.3"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75"

2022-23: 9.25" (12/18: 0.75", 12/19: 2.5", 12/20: 6"; Trace: 11/7, 12/2, 12/21; Flakes: 11/29, 11/30, 12/1)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Yea I strung together this. However, I never had more than 4ish inches on the ground at once tbh

11/29: 1.5in
11/30-12/1: 3in
12/2 morning: .5in 
12/2-12/3: 4in
12/4: 2in
12/18: .2in
12/19: .2in
12/20: .6in
12/21: .3in
1/21: Trace 

My stats so far this season:

2022-11-06 trace
2022-11-07  1.2"
2022-11-29  4.7"
2022-12-02 trace
2022-12-06 trace
2022-12-18  2.8"
2022-12-20 10.2"
2022-12-23  1.6"
TOTAL      20.5"

 

  • Like 2
  • Snow 1
It's called clown range for a reason.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Staff
5 minutes ago, MossMan said:

One thing I will say is that at least this non stop drizzle fest up here will finally come to an end. And I usually run 2-4 degrees under those numbers so there is that as well. 

Yeah... the last couple of days have been the absolute worst pattern for your area and my area with a ridge offshore and moisture riding over the top and down through western WA from Bellingham to east of Seattle.   It just pumps in the gunk to the central and north Sound while other areas are dry and even partly sunny like yesterday.     

In some years this can go on for weeks... we have been lucky so far this winter and the upcoming pattern will definitely be welcome. 

For reference... this is a really gross 500mb pattern for our areas. 

 

ecmwf-deterministic-namer-z500_anom-4604800.png

  • Sick 2

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

You should move if you have the chance. I’ve had nearly 100 days with 4”+ of snow cover in the last 6 years. 

As a general rule, the further north the better.

Seattle tends to get more snow than Portland, Shoreline more than Seattle, Paine Field more than Shoreline, Bellingham more than Everett, Vancouver more than Bellingham.

Also, from Whatcom County northwards is it a lot easier to score subfreezing weather in arctic outflow. Though sometimes that works out as being left high and dry and cold while points south get the snow.

  • Like 1
  • scream 1
It's called clown range for a reason.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Longtimer
2 minutes ago, HuskyMaestro said:

I got the Weather Channel on as background noise and they showed snow on the NYC cams atop the skyscrapers but it all turns to rain by the time it falls to the streets. Brutal, lol 

Still sitting on zero measurable snow for NYC (as well as D.C. and Philadelphia) this winter. With no real safe bets in sight. Their winters get a little more like ours each year!

  • Like 8
  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

29 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

There were pockets of where it was decent but places like Seattle Metro didn't get a ton (2") and I know areas toward Bonney Lake also got very little.

I'm hoping that at least 1 area scores this upcoming week.

There’s time for the models to trend back in a snowier direction. Clown range cuts both ways.

  • Like 2
It's called clown range for a reason.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Longtimer

I figured since Minnesota has been getting blasted so would have the Chicago area as well, apparently not. That’s what I love about the tractor forums is that most of them are snow freaks as well! 

B84E7053-6326-4B38-BF6D-378C06948388.jpeg

  • Like 4
  • Snow 1

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Longtimer
2 minutes ago, WeatherGeek2022 said:

Always next winter 🤷‍♂️

I think our luck has run out for the next few seasons. Been a heck of a good stretch though! 

  • Like 2

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, MossMan said:

I think our luck has run out for the next few seasons. Been a heck of a good stretch though! 

Frankly, this one exceeded my expectations. I was not expecting to get so much snow in back-to-back winters.

I’m pretty sure I’m in for a winter or two that never has more than an inch or two on the ground at any one time. Going to be quite the letdown after the recent run of good ones.

  • Like 3
It's called clown range for a reason.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I’m really not that surprised this is turning out to be a dry blast because I feel like it’s been a while since one. It sucks for the Portland folks though because when they finally get a decent arctic blast it comes with little to no snow. 

  • Sad 2
  • Sun 1

2022-2023 Winter Stats

Total Snowfall - 14.25”

Max Snow Depth - 6”

Coldest High Temp - 23F

Coldest Low Temp - 11F

Number of Freezes - 49

Sub-40 highs - 18

Highs 32 or lower - 3

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Didn’t the Puget Sound area see some decent snow events in Late November and December? 

We did! Many are still upset tho…we had a high of 25 here and 6” of snow so far this winter. I’d understand being upset if none of that had happened prior to this but c’mon we had a good run earlier. 

  • Like 3
  • Sick 1

22-23 cold season stats

Coldest max-25

Coldest min-19

Sub 40 highs-11

Sub 32 highs-2

Sub 32 lows-24

Total snowfall-6.0” 

Monthly rainfall-0.89”

Wet season rainfall-17.30”

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Chris unpinned this topic

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share


  • Popular Contributors

  • Activity Stream

    1. 224

      February 2023 Observations and Discussions

    2. 191

      2/7 - 2/11 Texarkana Low

    3. 191

      2/7 - 2/11 Texarkana Low

    4. 224

      February 2023 Observations and Discussions

    5. 191

      2/7 - 2/11 Texarkana Low

×
×
  • Create New...