wx_statman Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Bozeman MSU reading just came in at -30 this morning. Coldest March reading on record beating out 1932 with records going back to 1892. This mornings reading is the coldest temp at MSU since December 1990. Incredibly historic airmass aided by a historic snowpack. Also looks like BZN pulled off a -53 departure today. Do you know what the lower 48 negative departure record is? Don't know, but I've seen daily deps more than 60 degrees below average on the books before, at random places in random cold waves. Can't remember which ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Knock it off. 16 year olds are to be seen and not heard, or if heard you’re supposed to make up the most versed, multi-faceted and climatologically-fascinating early retired adult persona you can dream up. -BryantWhatever you say Dewey. You are constantly bringing up old nonsense with my name attached, and I'm not sure why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiner Warrior Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Responses should be in bold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 I live in kirkland so I suggest olive garden! Their daquiris are deliciousYou sure love Olive Garden! I prefer meat. Buffalo Wild Wings or Outback Steakhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 I would imagine deer, elk, raptors are all going to take a hit this winter. I think it was three years ago Baker City region lost 30% of their deer pops. Deep snow and many below zero days/(nights). Populations rebounded nicely but it was tough on survival for mammals and birds. Will be interesting to see how your area is impacted. I saw my first Osprey on the Clackamas River Feb 3rd. Earliest I have ever seen one locally. He was hanging around a local trout pond so it might make it until things warm up. I can't imagine finding fish on the surface of an water locally this season will be easy to find until things warm up. Do baldies winter in your area at all? We have good wintering populations but obviously much easier for them to find food here. Yeah really hoping for the best but I can't imagine the numbers are going to be good. I know a lot of the ranchers are working around the clock to keep the calves alive. The combination of a deep late season snowpack and record breaking cold has been fun to track but I can't help but think about all the creatures (including humans!) that have to be out in these elements around the clock. Yes we have lots of Eagles that winter here! In fact just the other day I saw the largest grouping of them in a couple of trees. Probably about 12-15 of them. We have several that live in our neighborhood as well. They seem to be doing alright by the numbers that I see around town right now. Still seeing lots of Elk as well so hoping that's a good sign. Haven't seen a single deer in several weeks though. 1 Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 I did not say it was not a big deal. I said it was very impressive. And said it was also impressive on this side of the mountains to the south. But its definitely low impact around here compared to what we have been through over the last month. And seems almost pleasant. So what? I never really care about cold without snow... so I am NOT a good guide on historical significance. I just don't care that much. I usually go by impact. And the stuff east of the mountains is high impact stuff. Almost crippling in Montana. We have had lots of high impact weather here recently too. This is the complete opposite. It's relative. It's March in western WA. And there's been impressive cold in King County. And it's extremely silly to act like you only care about "high impact" weather. Thousands of posts show otherwise. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiner Warrior Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 The Eagles suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 The Eagles suck Can't believe they let Big **** Nick go! Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Failshington County! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 The Eagles suckI dunno, Hotel California is great. Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Failshington County! Almost poetic. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 This place is a f*cking warzone tonight! 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Beautiful sunset tonight on orcas island overlooking towards Vancouver island, very cold though. Sat by the fire for a few hours tonight preparing for our hike up to the top of the foothills on the island. For anyone who hasn’t seen the San Juan’s..they really should it’s absolutely beautiful here! It’s a really amazing time to go This year especially since it’s been so cold there’s snow above 750ft or so in elevation on the island it’s really cool to see in March 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Don't know, but I've seen daily deps more than 60 degrees below average on the books before, at random places in random cold waves. Can't remember which ones. Seems like it would be extremely rare. Looking at a lot of the all-time state records, most of those are in the -45 to -55 departure range. The real hard part tends to be getting highs that are more than 35-40 degrees below average most places. For example, with Mazama's WA state record of -48 in Dec 1968, they had a high of -18...which was a -42 departure. Combine that with an extreme low that was 59 degrees below average, and you have a state record that is 50 degrees below average. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 This place is a f*cking warzone tonight! Welcome to the shoulder season! Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Failshington County!Need to shift everything 25 miles west. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 This place is a f*cking warzone tonight! It happens every time the Euro shows snow for PDX this winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Almost poetic. This is as far west as the precip makes it on the WRF. Its honestly completely fine now, we're used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Any moisture that any of us get will be here way earlier than being shown, been that way for every system the last month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Mark has a new blog post up. https://fox12weather.wordpress.com/2019/03/04/cold-showers-wednesday-friday-brief-snow-in-spots/#comments Does he get an early version of the EURO or something? I find the fact that he said the EURO shows very little snow in PDX weird (as the snow maps have 2-4 inches here- an inch at least). 1 Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Need to shift everything 25 miles west.75 to 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 It's relative. It's March in western WA. And there's been impressive cold in King County. And it's extremely silly to act like you only care about "high impact" weather. Thousands of posts show otherwise. And I said that I am not a good guide on historical significance. I personally don't care that highs in the 40s are historically cold in Seattle in March... normal is 52. Both feel pleasant on a sunny day. Its hard to tell the difference. It usually feels somewhat chilly in March. And I love low impact weather. I care very much about it. But also recognize and take interest when we have high impact weather like windstorms, or heavy rain, or heavy snow, etc. I would care much more if I lived east of the mountains... or in Montana. That is crazy sh*t. Anyone flying from Bozeman to Seattle today probably felt like they just landed in Hawaii. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 I dunno, Hotel California is great. The way summers have been going, they're gonna have to rename that Hotel Oregon pretty soon. 2 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 And I said that I am not a good guide on historical significance. I personally don't care that highs in the 40s is historically cold in Seattle in March... normal is 52. Both feel pleasant on a sunny day. Its hard to tell the difference. It usually feels somewhat chilly in March. No one is saying the highs are historically cold. When you play dumb like this, it just makes you look worse and more obvious. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 It happens every time the Euro shows snow for PDX this winter.Stuff going on tonight doesn't have anything to do with PDX snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 This is as far west as the precip makes it on the WRF. Its honestly completely fine now, we're used to it. Of course that is how it will play out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 WRF about the same as this morning... I have a feeling it is wrong this time. I had a feeling the ECMWF was going to be wrong last time. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Mark has a new blog post up. https://fox12weather.wordpress.com/2019/03/04/cold-showers-wednesday-friday-brief-snow-in-spots/#comments Does he get an early version of the EURO or something? I find the fact that he said the EURO shows very little snow in PDX weird (as the snow maps have 2-4 inches here- an inch at least).He said the EURO shows little snow through Wednesday afternoon, but shows more snow Wednesday night. He definitely doesn't have access to early models, so I'm sure he was talking about the 12z. Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 No one is saying the highs are historically cold. When you play dumb like this, it just makes you look worse and more obvious. I don't care about lows in the 20s either. But I am told that its historically significant. In March... it has almost no impact. And it has not even been in the 20s here yet... low of 30 this morning and currently 35. If I don't care about lows in the 20s here... then I care even less about it happening at OLM. Why does it matter that I don't really care? If you enjoy the historical significance... then enjoy away! As I enjoy the sunny, pleasant days that make me want to be outside. I am watching in amazement at what is happening to the east and thankful that I am not there. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Mark has a new blog post up. https://fox12weather.wordpress.com/2019/03/04/cold-showers-wednesday-friday-brief-snow-in-spots/#comments Does he get an early version of the EURO or something? I find the fact that he said the EURO shows very little snow in PDX weird (as the snow maps have 2-4 inches here- an inch at least). The euro brings a band of snow through PDX Wednesday evening and gives us most of our accumulations. Mark doesn't buy that it will be snowing at that time. He is saying euro shows very little snow in PDX earlier in the day and that is accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Seems like it would be extremely rare. Looking at a lot of the all-time state records, most of those are in the -45 to -55 departure range. The real hard part tends to be getting highs that are more than 35-40 degrees below average most places. For example, with Mazama's WA state record of -48 in Dec 1968, they had a high of -18...which was a -42 departure. Combine that with an extreme low that was 59 degrees below average, and you have a state record that is 50 degrees below average.It’s extremely rare, but it has happened in the past. For example Havre was 61 degrees below normal on 1/27/1916 with a max of -38 and min of -57. Eureka Ranger Station posted a 58 degree departure on 12/30/1968, with a -27/-50 day west of the continental divide. I have to imagine 53 degrees is about the limit of what we’ve seen in recent decades though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 It’s extremely rare, but it has happened in the past. For example Havre was 61 degrees below normal on 1/27/1916 with a max of -38 and min of -57. Eureka Ranger Station posted a 58 degree departure on 12/30/1968, with a -27/-50 day west of the continental divide. I have to imagine 53 degrees is about the limit of what we’ve seen in recent decades though.Seems almost impossible. Just crazy. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Down to the last shaded patches of snow here. More snow left along inland areas on the east side of the island, a few patchy areas in the Fraser Valley, and Southern Oregon: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Down to the last shaded patches of snow here. More snow left along inland areas on the east side of the island, a few patchy areas in the Fraser Valley, and Southern Oregon: Are you expecting much here on Wednesday night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Here's what the 00Z UKMET shows for precipitation Tuesday 10pm to Wednesday 10pm. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Just got home, looks like a 35-17 day. Currently 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Here's what the 00Z UKMET shows for precipitation Tuesday 10pm to Wednesday 10pm. us_model-en-087-0_modgbr_2019030500_36_5618_228.pngus_model-en-087-0_modgbr_2019030500_42_5618_22.pngus_model-en-087-0_modgbr_2019030500_48_5618_228.pngus_model-en-087-0_modgbr_2019030500_54_5618_228.pngNot bad! 1 Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Are you expecting much here on Wednesday night? Nope, a trace if we're lucky. A few hundred km to the west and we might be in for something decent, but this has a lot of factors going against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Down to the last shaded patches of snow here. More snow left along inland areas on the east side of the island, a few patchy areas in the Fraser Valley, and Southern Oregon: There’s still probably 6-8” in the shade here. More like 2-5” in the front yard which gets the mid day sun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Not bad!I wish there was more moisture to work with in the morning but the solid band of moisture it shows for late afternoon/evening looks intriguing. Those with some elevation might be able to score some accumulations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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