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8 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said:

UW-WRF has the central Sound almost completely shadowed on Monday -- westerlies are too strong unfortunately. More likely to need sunglasses than a snow shovel. 

@MossMan gets some action and the mountains do well. 

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I would bet we see some Vancouver Island convergence form Monday afternoon and this can feed a lot of moisture into the north sound.  Could be an active afternoon and evening with possibly multiple convergence zones. 

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1 minute ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

I was mostly speaking for the second and potential third punch to focus on ensembles. The OP at that range is too variable to know where that trough will set up

Agreed.  Looking most likely we end up with some cold SW flow later next week with the trough axis staying offshore.  Could be some overnight slushy accumulation in heavier showers 

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1 minute ago, ShawniganLake said:

Agreed.  Looking most likely we end up with some cold SW flow later next week with the trough axis staying offshore.  Could be some overnight slushy accumulation in heavier showers 

For my area to score I'll need it to move onshore. Can't be having SW flow. Not looking likely at this point, but not off the table yet. 

PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220

2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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6 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

Meh. Breezy. Nothing crazy. 

Oh well. I would almost rather see a big windstorm than a sloppy inch. However if we are talking at least 4 to 8” of snow then I would be cool with that over wind. 
Or how about both!! 

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Solid cold signal for this far out on an ensemble mean.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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4 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

For my area to score I'll need it to move onshore. Can't be having SW flow. Not looking likely at this point, but not off the table yet. 

SW flow can be pretty good up here as I’m usually just north of the Olympic rain shadow.  I would probably at least see snow in the air with overnight accumulation if 850 temps are around -5 or -6C

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8 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

For my area to score I'll need it to move onshore. Can't be having SW flow. Not looking likely at this point, but not off the table yet. 

The sw flow is really never much of an issue here with these events. I'm blocked really good from them 

We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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7 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Solid cold signal for this far out on an ensemble mean.

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Operational run looks similar.    But the focus of activity is farther south at that time.  

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4 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

The sw flow is really never much of an issue here with these events. I'm blocked really good from them 

Its my worst shadow flow. I won't see a drop unless it is a STRONG storm. 

PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220

2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Operational run looks similar.    But the focus of activity is farther south at that time.  

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How is this similar? OP is WAY more offshore. That difference means everything for a winter setup for us. 

PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220

2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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1 minute ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

How is this similar? OP is WAY more offshore. That difference means everything for a winter setup for us. 

Its a very similar configuration.    You are taking a blended mean too literally.  

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12 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Oh well. I would almost rather see a big windstorm than a sloppy inch. However if we are talking at least 4 to 8” of snow then I would be cool with that over wind. 
Or how about both!! 

Wouldn’t be totally shocked if you got both.  4-6” in your area Monday into Tuesday could work out if things align properly.  Also wouldn’t surprise me to see a strong low track across Vancouver island next week.  Or a strong front mid week with gusty SE winds ahead of it or a strong westerly surge behind it.  

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5 minutes ago, Hawksfan2008 said:

This will work for EPSL Monday night 😃 image.thumb.png.438833aee2e834832b6f1d70c548ac85.pngimage.thumb.png.3ce0ea5c1927f5bb6c8b339342130e01.pngimage.thumb.png.5d0295c90c8cbe9eb287ca7a9cbcc086.pngimage.thumb.png.85e5f9607fa4596ceb7b536d9b78cf80.png

This is a big change from the 00Z run... much more favorable for King County.

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

This is a big change from the 00Z run... much more favorable for King County.

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That looks like what I would expect this time of year given the setup. A line of convergence showers over Vancouver island (probably late Monday afternoon) feeds some moisture into the north sound.  Probably a second area of convergence tries to form off of the olympics further south. 

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7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Its a very similar configuration.    You are taking a blended mean too literally.  

Sure but OP is one of what 30 runs? Small changes mean a lot for us. 

PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220

2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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28 minutes ago, Hawksfan2008 said:

This will work for EPSL Monday night 😃 image.thumb.png.438833aee2e834832b6f1d70c548ac85.pngimage.thumb.png.3ce0ea5c1927f5bb6c8b339342130e01.pngimage.thumb.png.5d0295c90c8cbe9eb287ca7a9cbcc086.pngimage.thumb.png.85e5f9607fa4596ceb7b536d9b78cf80.png

I'd really like to believe it.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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29 minutes ago, Hawksfan2008 said:

This will work for EPSL Monday night 😃 image.thumb.png.438833aee2e834832b6f1d70c548ac85.pngimage.thumb.png.3ce0ea5c1927f5bb6c8b339342130e01.pngimage.thumb.png.5d0295c90c8cbe9eb287ca7a9cbcc086.pngimage.thumb.png.85e5f9607fa4596ceb7b536d9b78cf80.png

Chilly at my house! 

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The ECMWF does bring back some King County snow late Monday afternoon and evening.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

12Z ECMWF looks good for King County on Monday evening too... increase from 00Z run.  

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Mid levels look cold enough for sure.  Surface temps are shown in the low 30s by sunset.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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15 hours ago, Tanis Leach said:

Since I wasn't on here a year ago, I'll post my pics from last year's snow. Oh, and crazy me ran 8.5 miles the day after. 9" in Sherwood that storm fell, 7" is what was settled (I did hourly measurements and noted some loss to blowing). The night pics were about 1/3 through (2 am)

It was only 1 of 3 times I pulled an all lighter (grad night and a flight to Paris that got delayed was the other 2). 

Also, I believe a good chunk of you called a snowstorm, but using my forecast videos, it did feel odd trying to go off alone compared to the TV forecasts (but not here), and sticking to my guns after E. Metro got the deformation band/convergence zone in saying Washington/NE Yamhill County will have their turn from 11-7. In all fairness, while I forecasted that convergence zone/deformation band well ahead of time (48 hours), I underdid precip maxes (said 3-7" in the main zone with the 48 and 24 hour notice, 4-9" with isolated to 12" was my day of adjustment) and completly missed the east metro area (even though I was more aggressive than TV, saying 1-3" vs the consensus 0-1"). Never used the snow maps on that event since on a stalled low, they're useless anyways. A good blip in the middle of (then) depression. 

 

Edit: recap video I made: 

 

 

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It was really a great storm. And the sun + subfreezing high on Feb 23rd was great. Also I enjoyed watching your forecast videos going up to that event, they were very detailed and informative

 

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I am at peace. Whatever happens will happen. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Euro onboard with GFS OP run offshore. Likely to see ensembles shift that way. Probably the more likely solution. 

Sucks for everyone 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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ECMWF shows the action shifting to CA late next week like the other models.    But also shows a little snow in that period.

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King County does well on this ECMWF run.  Some decent cold later in the run too.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

ECMWF shows the action shifting to CA late next week like the other models.    But also shows a little snow in that period.

ecmwf-deterministic-nw-precip_6hr_inch-1708689600-1709359200-1709467200-10.gif

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I'm a fan of this run.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Pretty nippy mins on day 9.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

King County does well on this ECMWF run.  Some decent cold later in the run too.

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No longer looking great for my area. I’m going to take down the Christmas lights today. 

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11 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Euro onboard with GFS OP run offshore. Likely to see ensembles shift that way. Probably the more likely solution. 

Not really.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Really solid cold here.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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The meteograms show a foot of snow for SEA over the next 10 days. 😄

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 minutes ago, Randyc321 said:

D@mn Tim.  I don't even work anymore and I couldn't post as much as you if I was getting paid to do it!

I am good at multi-tasking! 

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3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The meteograms show a foot of snow for SEA over the next 10 days. 😄

Just stupid.

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