mlgamer Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 12z GFS doesn't even have a closed upper low anywhere. Just shows a positively tilted trough crossing the region. 1 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 GFS finally starts to wrap up the southern energy over the Appalachians and eastern Ohio Valley. 1 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Canadian 850 line never gets further north than the Iowa Missouri border. It may be wrong in the end but it’s been very consistent with keeping the warm air at bay. Waiting in precip maps but appears it will still showing significant snows in eastern Iowa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 CMC blast Eastern and south eastern Iowa. Not sure I’d hold your breath on that one though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Ummmm. What Canada?? Secondary wave forms. Explodes and retrogrades all the way into western Iowa. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Yeah, wtf Canadian. Models are all over the place with the southern energy. They have it cutting from Iowa to the Appalachians. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 minute ago, bud2380 said: Ummmm. What Canada?? Secondary wave forms. Explodes and retrogrades all the way into western Iowa. Actually back into Central Kansas and Nebraska at 132. Very odd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Canadian through 84 hours. I’d take this for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 I will go out on a limb and say a low track from Corpus Christi to Des Moines will not happen. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 The old retrograding low on the Canadian. Eastern half of Nebraska crushed. Well it is still 2020 so should we be shocked if this occurred. One of the strangest runs I’ve seen in awhile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 I'd take the CMC solution in a heartbeat! (not that I buy it yet...lol) 1 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 31 minutes ago, Hawkeye said: GFS finally starts to wrap up the southern energy over the Appalachians and eastern Ohio Valley. $$ 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 I can’t believe I trusted you Canadian! Granted I’d be happy with the first part of the storm. But this secondary wave is insane. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Who had retrograding low in the office pool? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centralweather44 Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 I have never put much stock into the Canadian. Is it ever close? Will be interesting to see what the Euro says here in an hour or so. Just don’t like not having the GFS on our side. Especially with the way it has performed this year. Better than past years anyways 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Canadian is crap for me. Thankfully it's the Canadian. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Remember a week ago when we first starting seeing this storm and on the Euro the low basically stalled for several days over the KC area. Not that I’m predicting this, just something I remember. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 minute ago, centralweather44 said: I have never put much stock into the Canadian. Is it ever close? Will be interesting to see what the Euro says here in an hour or so. Just don’t like not having the GFS on our side. Especially with the way it has performed this year. Better than past years anyways according to the article someone posted earlier, Ryan Maue has researched 500mb performance and ranked Euro 1, Canadian 2, GFS 3 in terms of performance. So I wouldn’t discount it entirely. Especially within 5 days. I don’t buy anything past 120 hours on this run though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 The CMC solution reminds me of the 2009 Christmas eve/day storm. 1 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 UKIE caved and came north. Not nearly as north as the GFS but has the SLP right over Dubuque at hour 96. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 minute ago, mlgamer said: The CMC solution reminds me of the 2009 Christmas eve/day storm. I was just thinking about that. I thought we were out of the game on the 24th and I woke up to Blizzard Warning as the low retrograded enough to give me a good amount. We can hope 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 12z Canadian to hour 156. One of the strangest runs I’ve ever seen. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH4NU Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, CentralNebWeather said: 12z Canadian to hour 156. One of the strangest runs I’ve ever seen. This shows Papillion area jumping 15" from 72-78hr. Would be a 6hr stretch of 2.5"/hr snowfall rates. One could dream! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Here comes the north trends! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, mlgamer said: The CMC solution reminds me of the 2009 Christmas eve/day storm. Just was thinking the same thing. Lets move it east a little and ride it until it caves! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Funny true story. The new GFS does similar things as the Canadian with the secondary wave. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Now we wait for the 12z Euro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 12z GFS mean. Changing a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 New GFS 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Just now, bud2380 said: New GFS There you go @Clinton ! 1 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 UKIE more west to east. Drops 9” or so on CR. This would be something I could live with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Just now, mlgamer said: There you go @Clinton ! Lock it in LOL! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, bud2380 said: UKIE more west to east. Drops 9” or so on CR. This would be something I could live with. 3 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 12z UKIE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 I really hope the euro flattens out like what the UK shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 I would lock the ukie and new gfs in a heartbeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 CMC Mean 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Euro underway. Reminder to Jesus about my offer to build several churches in your name. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 At hour 84 the euro has the low on the Texas Mexico border. Similar to last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Euro looks farther south than 0z through 96 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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