Tyler Mode Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 The satellite pic shows most of Washington covered in smoke. I'm curious if anyone has pictures of the "wall of smoke" seen advancing westward. Notice the level of the smoke is below about 8,000' as the tops of the mountains are sticking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 The skies are actually a little smoky here as well, although not nearly that thick. Expected to continue the next couple days with NW flow bringing in the smoke from the PNW fires. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Skies are completely obscured by smoke now in my area, and can definitely smell it as well. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Pretty crazy how smokey it is out there. I can even smell it a little inside the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Bonner Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 The cold upper-level trough cannot move over us, because the Warm Blob out in the Pacific is grabbing hold and devouring it for lunch. What will the maps look like tonight? Death ridge over the PNW again or something? As I've said before, some of the daily records in August look pretty weak. (Today 8/22, the record high at KDLS airport in Dallesport, is only 99 degrees!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Only 66 at PDX as of 11am... I'm wondering if the smoky skies are keeping temps down a little. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminen Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hilo's dew point is 77F right now, which is pretty high for them (usually in low 70s this time of year). The high dew point this month there is 79F and it's been pretty consistently high this month. The temperature is also averaging a few degrees above normal this month as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hilo's dew point is 77F right now, which is pretty high for them (usually in low 70s this time of year). The high dew point this month there is 79F and it's been pretty consistently high this month. The temperature is also averaging a few degrees above normal this month as well. You are the king of random posts. 83 and cloudy right now in Columbia, South Carolina. Humid as well. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminen Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Scratch that. Hilo now has a heat index of 101F (dp@ 80F). Not too common... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 At first I thought he was referring to Hillsboro (HIO)... Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 That trough early next week better not end up digging offshore and pumping a bunch of SSW flow over us. I can tell it wants to. I can see it in its eyes.Good call Jesse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Good call Jesse!Already giving you self props? Hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 The smoke has increased up here through out the day but it sounds like the winds have been helping the firefighting efforts over there so I will gladly take it. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Already giving you self props? HmmmModel consensus is now solid that the trough will dig offshore much of next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 A glimmer of hope toward next weekend... Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 A glimmer of hope toward next weekend...Exactly how the early part of this week looked a week prior... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Good call Jesse! That reverse psychology almost worked on the trough. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 That reverse psychology almost worked on the trough.Nah, I recognized the possibility early on. Despite my love of cold anomalies and their associated wildfires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Cutting off to the west was always likely given how patterns have evolved this summer. The Canadian was the first to show it and stuck to it for 3 runs before the other models caught up. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Mark pointed this out in his blog yesterday.... very interesting tool which shows the spread of smoke and models it out for 3 days in advance. It did perfectly for today... looks like it wil begin to clear out tomorrow morning and be confined to east of the Cascades by afternoon and then we should be good for the week ahead. http://viewer.smoke.airfire.org/run/standard/PNW-4km/2015082200 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Models are trending troughy and maybe wet for the end of the work week and next weekend. Cutting off even farther west and throwing up a ridge is becoming less likely. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Apparently all of the smoke doesn't inhibit radiational cooling. PDX fell into the 50s this morning without much trouble. Interesting because it seems like it may have played a role in holding yesterday's high temp down. Figured it would keep lows up too, just like cloud cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Good call Jesse! Looks like that reverse psychology is working, thanks Jesse!! 1 Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Looks like that reverse psychology is working, thanks Jesse!! It will be moving in much slower than initially advertised with a longer period of SW flow in front of it. Models seem to be coming around to the idea of moving the whole thing through later this week into the weekend now, but that is a lot later than first modeled (by the GFS and EURO, at least) and beyond the period I was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 It will be moving in much slower than initially advertised with a longer period of SW flow in front of it. Models seem to be coming around to the idea of moving the whole thing through later this week into the weekend now, but that is a lot later than first modeled (by the GFS and EURO, at least) and beyond the period I was referring to. Better late than never! And mid next week is looking much cooler with no 90's in sight. Seems like a win to me! Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Better late than never! And mid next week is looking much cooler with no 90's in sight. Seems like a win to me! Yes. Don't get me wrong, I am thrilled. Just hope it keeps up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 The bit I read on smoke inhibiting solar radiation, showed that it acts as a low quality cloud. Infrared passes through fine, but ultraviolet doesn't. Yup. Blocks incoming radiation some but doesn't really inhibit outgoing radiation. Kind of like SO2 after volcanic eruptions. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Apparently all of the smoke doesn't inhibit radiational cooling. PDX fell into the 50s this morning without much trouble. Interesting because it seems like it may have played a role in holding yesterday's high temp down. Figured it would keep lows up too, just like cloud cover.It was really apparent back in 2001 when south Okanogan County was seriously socked in and highs were in the mid-upper 70's and the Omak area was 100+. Lows were completely unaffected. It's a cold enthusiast's wet dream. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 It was really apparent back in 2001 when south Okanogan County was seriously socked in and highs were in the mid-upper 70's and the Omak area was 100+. Lows were completely unaffected. It's a cold enthusiast's wet dream. Nah, it's really smokey and nasty out there. We camped at Mount Rainier the night before last and couldn't even see it by late yesterday morning, even though we were only about five miles away. There are better ways to achieve cold anomalies without these cold anomaly-triggered wildfires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Nah, it's really smokey and nasty out there. We camped at Mount Rainier the night before last and couldn't even see it by late yesterday morning, even though we were only about five miles away. There are better ways to achieve cold anomalies without these cold anomaly-triggered wildfires. I'll take a nicely capped, stagnated cold season inversion over this crap any day! Freezing fog beats ash accumulation! 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 The smoke is finally starting to clear out up here. Seemed like today was worse than yesterday with the smoky conditions. Just getting my lungs ready for our trip over to the Sun Lakes area next week. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Moon here just went from orange to white... think the smoke just cleared this area. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Canadian still holding back later this week and into the weekend. Much less aggressive than GFS. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Things taking on a bit of a 2013 feel next week? Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Things taking on a bit of a 2013 feel next week?The lows well into the 50s the next 3-4 mornings will probably feel pretty soupy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 The lows well into the 50s the next 3-4 mornings will probably feel pretty soupy.Okay. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Euro ensembles were even more adamant than the operational in moving a deep trough through on Fri/Sat, FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Okay.Hard to tell exactly what you were referring to. Vague post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Hard to tell exactly what you were referring to. Vague post.Lots of southerly flow with the potential for little/no progression to what could be a moist pattern. Don't freak... 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard mann Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 (.. cross-reference.) http://theweatherforums.com/index.php/topic/889-summer-2015-colder-air-mass-movement-and-distribution-projections/?p=83402 Quote --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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