The amount of westerly momentum being evacuated from the subtropics is much higher than you’d want to see ahead of a +TNH —> -EPO/-NPO type retrogression. If I lived in the PNW I’d have high hopes but low expectations for the time being.

I would be lighting the complaint thread on fire if anything like that 18z GFS pans out.

70-burger secured at Horse Creek. PDX has clawed its way up to 52 after breaking out of the fog. McMinnville and Corvallis are still socked in and struggling to break out of the 30s.

Yes, 3 through December. We were wondering what is the fewest freezes for an entire winter and I was pointing out that the fewest recorded between September and the end of December is 2, so the yearly number for fewest in Seattle will be at least 2 freezes.

Warm finger