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Posted 27 February 2018 - 10:43 PM

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Seems like tonight's airmass wouldn't be cold enough for lowland snow anywhere.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 12:06 AM

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That is good and important to know up here. There is a house nearby with one, and it is pretty big so I assumed it can handle the snow.

How fast do they grow?

Depends. But I’ve planted them before and seen 2-3’ per year

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 01:22 AM

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Seems like tonight's airmass wouldn't be cold enough for lowland snow anywhere.

 

I agree. 34 here, but that I think is mostly low level cold, probably due to the remaining snow cover. There were some flurries earlier around 5pm, but everything since has been of the liquid variety. I would estimate the current snow level around 2500-3000'. 


Snowfall

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:09 AM

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36 and cloudy currently. 1 or 2” of snow left in areas but I can see about 60% of my freshly mowed grass now.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:12 AM

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34 herre after a low of 33. About 4" of snow left. Shockingly there is actually light/moderate snow falling right now., 


Snowfall

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:13 AM

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Ensemble mean at PDX drops to almost -5C at PDX around March 14th, a lot of colder members too...


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Snowfall

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:23 AM

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Yeah it was raining at my house when I said that so I just assumed it would be nothing but rain tonight. Maybe some spots under the CZ will get lucky.

 

I did see a few flakes last night, but it didn't last too long.


Finn Hill, elevation: 460 ft
2018 moisture: 25.86", 09/16

Lowest Temp of Autumn 2018: 42°, 09/18

 

2017-2018 winter snowfall total: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

Weather station/wx cam: http://map.bloomsky....qBxp6apnJSnqqm2
https://www.wundergr...OTHE144#history


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:29 AM

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6z GFS showed lowland snow...

 

gfs_asnow_nwus_14.png

 

12z NAM does too - although not as much.

 

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Finn Hill, elevation: 460 ft
2018 moisture: 25.86", 09/16

Lowest Temp of Autumn 2018: 42°, 09/18

 

2017-2018 winter snowfall total: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

Weather station/wx cam: http://map.bloomsky....qBxp6apnJSnqqm2
https://www.wundergr...OTHE144#history


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 07:53 AM

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Dumping snow now. Sticking on the cars and trees..
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Snowfall

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:17 AM

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Dumping snow now. Sticking on the cars and trees..

here too, not sticking yet though.  I thought the snow level was gonna be 4k ft today?



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:44 AM

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here too, not sticking yet though. I thought the snow level was gonna be 4k ft today?


It will be eventually. Right now there is just some cooler air and offshore flow ahead of the next system. Kind of like the setup for the lowlands yesterday morning plus 1,500’.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:53 AM

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It will be eventually. Right now there is just some cooler air and offshore flow ahead of the next system. Kind of like the setup for the lowlands yesterday morning plus 1,500’.

 

Oh yeah. It will definitely turn to rain later and probably melt all or most of my remaining snow pack...

 

Still surprising, though it is in generally just so much easier to get snow here in late winter/early spring and with much more marginal airmasses. I think its due to the systems having weaker onshore gradients. 


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Snowfall

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:54 AM

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My brain is smoking thinking how bad I want to be at my cabin. They look to get a huge dump. 16-24 inches predicted is crazy for republic. 


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We come from the land of the ice and snow.


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:55 AM

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The mountains look to just get buried in March.

 

I think there is a pretty high likelihood we see an anafront at some point in the March 10-15 period. 


Snowfall

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:56 AM

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My brain is smoking thinking how bad I want to be at my cabin. They look to get a huge dump. 16-24 inches predicted is crazy for republic. 

 

My brain is smoking thinking about how bad I would love to have a cabin or hobbit hole out there someday.


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Snowfall

2017-18: 30.3"

2016-17: 49.2"

2015-16: 11.75"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"
2012-13: 16.75"
2011-12: 98.5"

 

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:57 AM

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My brain is smoking thinking about how bad I would love to have a cabin or hobbit hole out there someday.

So much so! One day!!

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 08:59 AM

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The mountains look to just get buried in March.
 
I think there is a pretty high likelihood we see an anafront at some point in the March 10-15 period.

Washington mountains should be way above normal and Oregon mountains should really get caught up to normal or higher with a March coming up like this!

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 09:00 AM

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My brain is smoking thinking about how bad I would love to have a cabin or hobbit hole out there someday.

You can just plan for it man. I waited many Years for it to happen. I want to get dish internet over there so I can watch what's up on a web cam. 


We come from the land of the ice and snow.


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 09:07 AM

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Wow the GFS still looks amazing, the GEM less so.  Hopefully no more carrots, and just some good real stuff!


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 09:40 AM

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Oh yeah. It will definitely turn to rain later and probably melt all or most of my remaining snow pack...

 

Still surprising, though it is in generally just so much easier to get snow here in late winter/early spring and with much more marginal airmasses. I think its due to the systems having weaker onshore gradients.

 

Could be, but we're also just seeing a much better pattern for cold air masses now, including onshore.

 

You would definitely have seen a ton of snow with this pattern in January or December. We obviously weren't seeing a tanked -PNA those months.


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:08 AM

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Oh yeah. It will definitely turn to rain later and probably melt all or most of my remaining snow pack...

 

Still surprising, though it is in generally just so much easier to get snow here in late winter/early spring and with much more marginal airmasses. I think its due to the systems having weaker onshore gradients. 

This may have to do with the ocean temperatures bottoming out in early Spring. For example, the water temperature in Astoria is only 40.6 degrees right now. Less than 9 degrees above freezing!

 

Even a 2-3 degree difference in water temperature would make a difference to the moderating influence of onshore flow.


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Mountlake Terrace 2017-18 snowfall:

 

11/3: 0.25"

11/5: 0.25"

12/24: 4"

2/18: 0.5"

2/21: 1"

2/25: 1"

3/23: 0.25"

 

Total: 7.25"

 

 


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:13 AM

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:15 AM

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It appears that the GFS is still spitting out some lowland snow totals for the weekend.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:19 AM

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Party at Snowmizer’s place!

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:28 AM

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There's definitely been cooling of ocean waters right up close to the coast lately.

 

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Finn Hill, elevation: 460 ft
2018 moisture: 25.86", 09/16

Lowest Temp of Autumn 2018: 42°, 09/18

 

2017-2018 winter snowfall total: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

Weather station/wx cam: http://map.bloomsky....qBxp6apnJSnqqm2
https://www.wundergr...OTHE144#history


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:28 AM

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Party at Snowmizer’s place!

Dude when I get my house done any one of you guys on this forum are welcome anytime. 


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We come from the land of the ice and snow.


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:29 AM

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It appears that the GFS is still spitting out some lowland snow totals for the weekend.


Based on what the euro spit out looks like we are done. It’s been a fun ride!

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:45 AM

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12z still has the snow there.

 

gfs_asnow_nwus_14.png

 

Not often you see a pocket of snow over the ocean south of the low. 

 

gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_nwus_4.png


Finn Hill, elevation: 460 ft
2018 moisture: 25.86", 09/16

Lowest Temp of Autumn 2018: 42°, 09/18

 

2017-2018 winter snowfall total: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

Weather station/wx cam: http://map.bloomsky....qBxp6apnJSnqqm2
https://www.wundergr...OTHE144#history


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:47 AM

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Looks like its finally into the 40s at my house and what snow is left is melting.   



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:53 AM

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We are going to go from no snow all winter, straight into a Blizzard warning. Blizzard warning's are pretty rare for Tahoe. We had one last year and then one back in 2008.

Greater Lake Tahoe Area-
Including the cities of South Lake Tahoe, Truckee, Stateline,
and Incline Village
937 AM PST Wed Feb 28 2018

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING
TO 10 AM PST SATURDAY...
...BLIZZARD WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 8 AM THURSDAY TO 4 AM PST
FRIDAY...

* WHAT...Heavy snow with periods of blizzard conditions expected.
  Strong winds and heavy snowfall rates will cause whiteout
  conditions with blowing snow. Total snow accumulations of 2 to 5
  feet in the High Sierra above 7000 feet, with 1 to 3 feet of
  snow around the 6000 ft elevation, including the Lake Tahoe
  Basin.

* WHERE...Greater Lake Tahoe Area.

* WHEN...For the Winter Storm Warning, from 10 PM this evening
  to 10 AM PST Saturday. For the Blizzard Warning, from 8 AM
  Thursday to 4 AM PST Friday.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Travel will be very difficult to
  impossible, especially Thursday into Friday morning. Be prepared
  for significant reductions in visibility at times. Damage to at
  least some trees and power lines is likely.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

This is a life threatening situation. Do not attempt to travel!
Road crews and first responders may not be able to rescue you.
Stay indoors until the snow and wind subside. Even a short walk
could be deadly if you become disoriented. The latest road
conditions can be obtained by calling 5 1 1.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:55 AM

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There's definitely been cooling of ocean waters right up close to the coast lately.

cdas-sflux_ssta7diff_global_1.png


Always love seeing that.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:59 AM

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We are going to go from no snow all winter, straight into a Blizzard warning. Blizzard warning's are pretty rare for Tahoe. We had one last year and then one back in 2008.

Greater Lake Tahoe Area-
Including the cities of South Lake Tahoe, Truckee, Stateline,
and Incline Village
937 AM PST Wed Feb 28 2018

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING
TO 10 AM PST SATURDAY...
...BLIZZARD WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 8 AM THURSDAY TO 4 AM PST
FRIDAY...

* WHAT...Heavy snow with periods of blizzard conditions expected.
  Strong winds and heavy snowfall rates will cause whiteout
  conditions with blowing snow. Total snow accumulations of 2 to 5
  feet in the High Sierra above 7000 feet, with 1 to 3 feet of
  snow around the 6000 ft elevation, including the Lake Tahoe
  Basin.

* WHERE...Greater Lake Tahoe Area.

* WHEN...For the Winter Storm Warning, from 10 PM this evening
  to 10 AM PST Saturday. For the Blizzard Warning, from 8 AM
  Thursday to 4 AM PST Friday.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Travel will be very difficult to
  impossible, especially Thursday into Friday morning. Be prepared
  for significant reductions in visibility at times. Damage to at
  least some trees and power lines is likely.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

This is a life threatening situation. Do not attempt to travel!
Road crews and first responders may not be able to rescue you.
Stay indoors until the snow and wind subside. Even a short walk
could be deadly if you become disoriented. The latest road
conditions can be obtained by calling 5 1 1.

Haha that is amazing. What is your elevation?


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:59 AM

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Nice to finally get some decent rainfall this morning.
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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:03 AM

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We are going to go from no snow all winter, straight into a Blizzard warning. Blizzard warning's are pretty rare for Tahoe. We had one last year and then one back in 2008.

Greater Lake Tahoe Area-
Including the cities of South Lake Tahoe, Truckee, Stateline,
and Incline Village
937 AM PST Wed Feb 28 2018

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING
TO 10 AM PST SATURDAY...
...BLIZZARD WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 8 AM THURSDAY TO 4 AM PST
FRIDAY...

* WHAT...Heavy snow with periods of blizzard conditions expected.
  Strong winds and heavy snowfall rates will cause whiteout
  conditions with blowing snow. Total snow accumulations of 2 to 5
  feet in the High Sierra above 7000 feet, with 1 to 3 feet of
  snow around the 6000 ft elevation, including the Lake Tahoe
  Basin.

* WHERE...Greater Lake Tahoe Area.

* WHEN...For the Winter Storm Warning, from 10 PM this evening
  to 10 AM PST Saturday. For the Blizzard Warning, from 8 AM
  Thursday to 4 AM PST Friday.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Travel will be very difficult to
  impossible, especially Thursday into Friday morning. Be prepared
  for significant reductions in visibility at times. Damage to at
  least some trees and power lines is likely.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

This is a life threatening situation. Do not attempt to travel!
Road crews and first responders may not be able to rescue you.
Stay indoors until the snow and wind subside. Even a short walk
could be deadly if you become disoriented. The latest road
conditions can be obtained by calling 5 1 1.

 

Nice, winter finally arrives for you in March!


Finn Hill, elevation: 460 ft
2018 moisture: 25.86", 09/16

Lowest Temp of Autumn 2018: 42°, 09/18

 

2017-2018 winter snowfall total: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

Weather station/wx cam: http://map.bloomsky....qBxp6apnJSnqqm2
https://www.wundergr...OTHE144#history


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:11 AM

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Haha that is amazing. What is your elevation?

I am at lake level so 6300'. My area does pretty well in these cold storms so I wouldn't be surprised to see 40" by the time it is over on Saturday.


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:14 AM

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Not sure if this was posted yet... but here is total snow from 12Z ECMWF for Thursday afternoon through Sunday afternoon:

 

ecmwf_snow_72_washington_19.png



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:21 AM

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Not sure if this was posted yet... but here is total snow from 12Z ECMWF for Thursday afternoon through Sunday afternoon:

ecmwf_snow_72_washington_19.png


Seeing another dusting down here would be fun.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:21 AM

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12z still has the snow there.

gfs_asnow_nwus_14.png

Not often you see a pocket of snow over the ocean south of the low.

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Yeah it’s pretty rare to see that! Anyone have a large boat that I can borrow?
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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:23 AM

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So sad that this happened so late in the winter. Ugh.

Monmouth, Oregon cold season 17-18 Stats:

 

Coldest high: 34 (Dec 24)

Coldest low: 22 (Dec 11 & Feb 23)

Total snowfall: 1"

Last snowfall: February 21-22, 2018

Last accumulating snowfall on roads: March 6, 2017

Last sub-freezing high: Jan 13, 2017 (31)

Last White Christmas: 2008

 

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:24 AM

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We are going to go from no snow all winter, straight into a Blizzard warning. Blizzard warning's are pretty rare for Tahoe. We had one last year and then one back in 2008.

 

Crazy. I see that Reno has had about the same amount of snow as South Lake Tahoe this winter. I'm sure that will change after this storm.


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:26 AM

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Nice to finally get some decent rainfall this morning.

 

Definitely been a dry month from Seattle south.

 

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:29 AM

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I am at lake level so 6300'. My area does pretty well in these cold storms so I wouldn't be surprised to see 40" by the time it is over on Saturday.

 

You said you average around 150"/year? I'm about 850' lower elevation than you, roughly the same latitude, and average about 70"/year. Winters are too dry here!  :mellow:


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:31 AM

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Created a March thread already


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Finn Hill, elevation: 460 ft
2018 moisture: 25.86", 09/16

Lowest Temp of Autumn 2018: 42°, 09/18

 

2017-2018 winter snowfall total: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

Weather station/wx cam: http://map.bloomsky....qBxp6apnJSnqqm2
https://www.wundergr...OTHE144#history


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:32 AM

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So sad that this happened so late in the winter. Ugh.

Imagine this setup around the beginning of January...

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:39 AM

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Definitely been a dry month from Seattle south.

 

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Yeah, basically every front down here has been pretty showery in nature until today's.

 

Hopefully a good sign heading into March.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:40 AM

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You said you average around 150"/year? I'm about 850' lower elevation than you, roughly the same latitude, and average about 70"/year. Winters are too dry here!  :mellow:

Tahoe city averages 190" a year on the North shore. We average about 150" on the south end of the lake. We have huge variability between years though. Our lowest (2014 - 2015) only brought 12"

whereas our biggest years like 1952, 1969 can bring over 500" to lake level. I think the record is 532" in 1952.  In 2010 - 2011 I recorded 388" at my house.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:58 AM

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Created a March thread already

I started one already before you one or two days ago.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 12:00 PM

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Fortunately the 12z Euro seems to be doing away with any sort of warm up.

The mountains are set to do very well the first 7-10 days of March.
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Posted 28 February 2018 - 12:05 PM

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Tahoe city averages 190" a year on the North shore. We average about 150" on the south end of the lake. We have huge variability between years though. Our lowest (2014 - 2015) only brought 12"
whereas our biggest years like 1952, 1969 can bring over 500" to lake level. I think the record is 532" in 1952. In 2010 - 2011 I recorded 388" at my house.


Wow. Snowiest I've ever recorded here is 130". Least is 38".

Cool anomalies soothe the soul.


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 12:08 PM

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I started one already before you one or two days ago.

 

Ok. I'll just delete the one and move the post over


Finn Hill, elevation: 460 ft
2018 moisture: 25.86", 09/16

Lowest Temp of Autumn 2018: 42°, 09/18

 

2017-2018 winter snowfall total: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

Weather station/wx cam: http://map.bloomsky....qBxp6apnJSnqqm2
https://www.wundergr...OTHE144#history