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December 2016 Observations and Model Discussion for the Pacific Northwest


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Can't believe there's a chance we see nothing worthwhile out of this considering what the models showed just a couple days ago.

Has happened more often than I can even count and is usually the outcome. It is a huge bummer ... It amazes me how some choose to ignore the key indicators when they show up and at least consider things may go south. Like I said before it often has to smack them upside the head for them to see it. Fortunately  we have a lot of winter left. :)

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This event has definitely over performed for metro Vancouver. I was expecting maybe 3", and I got 5".

 

Sixth significant snowfall of the month. Easily our best since 2008. Pretty much had just as many events as in 2008, but half as much.

Congrats!!

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Well maybe some wet snow up here in a week!

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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All the runs are different...The last 5 have been progressively worse!

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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All the runs are different...The last 5 have been progressively worse!

Different is fine ... the key is larger patten shift and the overall progression of it = NOT good! I would call it a reset but I think it is more like a cluster ***

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I am going to enjoy the snow tonight...

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Looks like we have to share our epic cold with the east next weekend.

 

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2017010100/gfs_T850a_us_29.png

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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Looks like we have to share our epic cold with the east next weekend.

 

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2017010100/gfs_T850a_us_29.png

The amazing part about that... IF we watch it, it will verify which always frustrates me ... Oh well.

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Looks like we have to share our epic cold with the east next weekend.

 

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2017010100/gfs_T850a_us_29.png

Looks like cold air is still not far away to our north on that image...if I'm looking at that map correctly?

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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Looks like cold air is still not far away to our north on that image...if I'm looking at that map correctly?

 

 

Pretty far away on that map.

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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This is definitely 2011 all over again dang how disappointing

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Lake Samish covered once again

 

http://i.imgur.com/mnLaN5N.jpg

 

 

Looks like the same basic winners and losers tonight as with all recent events.   Business as usual.

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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Yup. Same places keep getting hit over and over. Expecting pics from you and Moss Man tomorrow. 

 

 

Blaine has done extraordinarily well... so has the Vancouver BC area.  

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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Overrunning.. It will snow then melt.. It is not a long lasting enjoyable event. It hits hard then turns to slop within hours.

 

Your missing the point. Go back and study some of our biggest snows and you will see that almost all of them were on the edge of being just a cold rain. And not all of them get washed away. All I am saying is the The major players are all still there.

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We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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Your missing the point. Go back and study some of our biggest snows and you will see that almost all of them were on the edge of being just a cold rain. And not all of them get washed away. All I am saying is the The major players are all still there.

okay... Point taken. 

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Your missing the point. Go back and study some of our biggest snows and you will see that almost all of them were on the edge of being just a cold rain. And not all of them get washed away. All I am saying is the The major players are all still there.

Just so you know I have studied them and know how they playout...

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All snow and sleet the last 10 minutes here, not sticking but it's something.

 

Not having the radar sucks so I have to watch IR for incoming clouds to see if it precipitates something.

 

 

You spent most of your life without radar out there... hard to imagine now.

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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This reminds me of the first bout with snow in 96. They forcasted it to go north and it snuck in just to the south and got really cold again after. It was forcasted to be a snow to rain event.

I believe Nov.1985 played out in a similar way... Was supposed to be rain and BAM, we went into the deep freezer for two weeks... That being said I doubt models were as powerful as they are now. HUGE difference in prediction tools makes this significantly less likely.

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