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January 2017 Observations and Model Discussion for the Pacific Northwest


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There has been some blowing and drifting here, so took a few measurements. Seems like 8"-10" is the rule.

 

From what I can tell places to the west have gotten more (some minor dryslotting here) but I will take it!

Right about 8 inches here. Very disappointing.

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Nice!

 

I am thinking the low level cold is really going to build in the next couple of days, that weak system moving by to the north over the weekend probably won't be enough to scour it out. Probably well below normal through Monday.

If PDX is ever going to hit single digits again, Thursday night is their chance.

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Nice! 

 

I am thinking the low level cold is really going to build in the next couple of days, that weak system moving by to the north over the weekend probably won't be enough to scour it out. Probably well below normal through Monday.

 

I'm curious to see what the lows will be over the next few nights.

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Didn't turn to snow here at 1600' near Silver Falls until after midnight. By then precip was on the wane. 

 

Similar story here. We had a blip of snow and then there was no precip anymore. We were expected to have another couple inches.

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 21
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7
5/8, 

Severe storms: 2

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Well I predicted 2-4" for PDX and look what happened!

 

Seriously though I do think Seattle is next in about 10-14 days. Think about it, Eugene, Medford, Salem, and PDX have all had major snow events with at least 4-5" plus and we are talking 4 separate events!

 

Salem 12-14

Medford 1-4

Eugene 1-7

PDX 1-10/11

 

I can't imagine Seattle doesn't get nailed.

 

And if they do, and we reset to cold conditions after a brief warm up next week, this could go down as a top tier January....

I like your thinking. Hard to imagine northern parts are done with snow for the season. I wonder if there are many years where PDX is snowier than Bellingham on the season. They have got to be well ahead now.
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Pretty much all of Western Oregon is going to close the first half of the month with at least -8 to -10 departures...Even if the 2nd half of the month is average it should still be the coldest January in a couple decades. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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How much did the Milwaukie/Gladstone dome end up with?

 

How much did the Milwaukie/Gladstone dome end up with?

 

Getting reports of about 6-8" in the dome. 

 

7.9" officially at the NWS office. 

 

NWS going with lows of 20 and 21 at PDX the next couple nights...Highs 30-31 through Friday.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Getting reports of about 6-8" in the dome. 

 

7.9" officially at the NWS office. 

 

NWS going with lows of 20 and 21 at PDX the next couple nights...Highs 30-31 through Friday.

Not bad. Don't know if that qualifies as it being busted but at least they got some :). I work in Gladstone so I know all too well the power of the dome.

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Getting reports of about 6-8" in the dome. 

 

7.9" officially at the NWS office. 

 

NWS going with lows of 20 and 21 at PDX the next couple nights...Highs 30-31 through Friday.

 

That's almost as much as Medford officially had on Jan 3rd. They got 8.30" (but that was before midnight, all same day snow.)

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 21
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7
5/8, 

Severe storms: 2

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[Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021]
https://imgur.com/SuGTijl

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That's almost as much as Medford officially had on Jan 3rd. They got 8.30" (but that was before midnight, all same day snow.)

 

Yeah. Most people said Medford got 10-14" most areas...Kind of like this storm. The official office is in the worst place for snow...Well that and most people tend to exaggerate or just eyeball and guess their snow totals. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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4 snow events. 2 in 2017 alone! I'm grading this winter an A+

 

For the 21st Century it has a chance to pass 2008-09 for the best...Regionally if Seattle gets hit and we get one real arctic blast even if its dry I will say its the best winter since at least 92-93... As is...Potential to be more. Still a lot of time left. 

 

It has an "old time" winter feel. The record wet October, record warm November, then boom. The progression Jim talked about worked out this time. Just hope he can score some snow so he can appreciate it. I could see being bitter if you lived in the Seattle area. That is why I hope they get hit, so we can appreciate this winter for what it will be. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Yeah. Most people said Medford got 10-14" most areas...Kind of like this storm. The official office is in the worst place for snow...Well that and most people tend to exaggerate or just eyeball and guess their snow totals. 

 

It's possible some cities had fluctuating micro measurements. When I measured 12.40" at midnight people near OIT were coming up with 14-16" before it continued snowing another 6+ inches in the morning. Someone actually said 14" here at 9pm when I had measured 10" at that time.

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 21
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7
5/8, 

Severe storms: 2

-------------------------------------------------------
[Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021]
https://imgur.com/SuGTijl

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La Nina at its best.  Storms marching into Northern Cal and Southern Oregon, one after another--all the while teasing the Puget Sound with endless hours of Virga.

 

For those keeping track, even Boise has been getting in on the action.  They are still digging out of a foot of snow from a couple of days ago, which is almost unheard of there.

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Nice thing for Portland is models keep pushing back the wet warmup.

 

A few days ago it looked like it could be raining by Saturday. 12z GFS is totally dry through Monday afternoon.

 

That snow is going to be there for quite a while.

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Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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La Nina at its best.  Storms marching into Northern Cal and Southern Oregon, one after another--all the while teasing the Puget Sound with endless hours of Virga.

 

For those keeping track, even Boise has been getting in on the action.  They are still digging out of a foot of snow from a couple of days ago, which is almost unheard of there.

 

 

ENSO Neutral actually. 

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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Looking at forcing and the way the atmosphere has behaved, it has acted much more like a La Ninã. It's not a strong Ninã like Phil forced you to think by twisting your arm, but it's close :lol:

 

 

I don't know how forcing works... but I know that ENSO neutral typically has lots of blocking and ends up being nice here without endless rain like this winter is progressing so far.

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La Nina at its best.  Storms marching into Northern Cal and Southern Oregon, one after another--all the while teasing the Puget Sound with endless hours of Virga.

 

For those keeping track, even Boise has been getting in on the action.  They are still digging out of a foot of snow from a couple of days ago, which is almost unheard of there.

 

What does Boise average in a whole winter?

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 21
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7
5/8, 

Severe storms: 2

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[Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021]
https://imgur.com/SuGTijl

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PDX hanging tough at 28. I think they score a sub freezing high today. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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For the 21st Century it has a chance to pass 2008-09 for the best...Regionally if Seattle gets hit and we get one real arctic blast even if its dry I will say its the best winter since at least 92-93... As is...Potential to be more. Still a lot of time left.

 

It has an "old time" winter feel. The record wet October, record warm November, then boom. The progression Jim talked about worked out this time. Just hope he can score some snow so he can appreciate it. I could see being bitter if you lived in the Seattle area. That is why I hope they get hit, so we can appreciate this winter for what it will be.

I think you would need everyone from the Seattle area and north to get hit pretty substantially to surpass 2008-09. ( with the exception of the higher elevations of the Vancouver area).

Snow totals so far this winter.

YVR 11" ( 0" in January)

YYJ. 6". (Trace in January)

YXX. 20" (1.5" in January)

 

Shawnigan lake is still 57" behind the 2008-2009 winter season.

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I find it interesting how hard it is to get snow here, yet now I'm going on 17 hours of continuous snow.

 

31 degrees

It's been unbelievable. Looks like the main band has shifted north of here for the time being. Maybe it will rotate back south later...
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I can't believe the long range models are hinting at the cold coming back.

 

The 12z GFS gives us a 3-4 day warmup with heavy rain next week (flooding?) then right back to a cold pattern by the 20th or so.

 

That progression actually feels believable based on how this winter has gone so far. Really pulling for the Puget Sound region to score late in the month.

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Looking like we stay dry though at least early next week now. It has already been mentioned but I think we could see some pretty impressive low level cold building this week with a snow covered Basin, Gorge and now Portland metro. The source airmass is verifying pretty cold too with widespread 850s of -10 to -15C in the lower Columbia Basin.

 

This is a sort of setup I have dreamed about living through.

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