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19 minutes ago, Perturbed Member said:

We do eventually end up getting some legit backdoor cold on this run but all the things that are possibly interesting are quite far out and the margin for error for us to score is really quite small compared to areas north. The ensembles across all the models show a pretty clear north south gradient with this again and the PDX area is very much on the edge. 

Personally I will set my expectations low. I would be a good bit more optimistic for OLM north. 

Oh I'd definitely set my expectations low and I obviously think Olympia north is a safer bet. But overrunning is our classic event-- I don't think we're out of the game yet with that giant natural tunnel to our east. (Also it would shake my faith in the entire system if we had yet another marginal barely close call while areas north get buried 🤧)

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--Cloud Strife

 

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.

 

Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3"

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1 minute ago, Requiem said:

Oh I'd definitely set my expectations low and I obviously think Olympia north is a safer bet. But overrunning is our classic event-- I don't think we're out of the game yet with that giant natural tunnel to our east. (Also it would shake my faith in the entire system if we had yet another marginal barely close call while areas north get buried 🤧)

never forget port angeles hitting the jackpot with 2ft in 2020 🤮

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1 minute ago, fubario said:

I keep reading "OLM North" or "OLM South". 

Sounds like an ice storm for our area to me. lol

I think you guys will be all snow-- if anything the setup models are showing right now that will change in about three hours favors a pretty nasty S. PDX- Centralia ice storm.

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--Cloud Strife

 

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.

 

Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3"

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Just now, Requiem said:

I think you guys will be all snow-- if anything the setup models are showing right now that will change in about three hours favors a pretty nasty S. PDX- Centralia ice storm.

It’s really hard to tell where the transition line will be at this time…I’m not too confident for Everett to Olympia yet. 

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Just now, Meatyorologist said:

People shouldn't feel bad about rooting for snow at their own location. We all only live once, and there is no moral high ground when watching weather models roll out.

Unless you root against a snowstorm for Tiger. Then it's the ban hammer for you, thank you very much.

Has TWL posted at all the last few days? Hope he is okay. 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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1 minute ago, Meatyorologist said:

People shouldn't feel bad about rooting for snow at their own location. We all only live once, and there is no moral high ground when watching weather models roll out.

Unless you root against a snowstorm for Tiger. Then it's the ban hammer for you, thank you very much.

While it is looking like it’ll be fun in western WA at the moment (still can change a lot and miss Everett south mostly) there’s been a ton of strong N/S gradient events in recent years. 

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Just now, MossMan said:

Has TWL posted at all the last few days? Hope he is okay. 

Yes, he's posted today in fact! He'll be alright. January has something very, very special in store for him.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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1 hour ago, MossMan said:

I just noticed this…Much like the birds going nuts at my bird feeder, my kids must also know it’s coming. I haven’t said a word to them yet. 
 

not sure what the rest of those scribbles mean, possibly something about the GFS??? 

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I’m assuming this considering the time of year 

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5 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

People shouldn't feel bad about rooting for snow at their own location. We all only live once, and there is no moral high ground when watching weather models roll out.

Unless you root against a snowstorm for Tiger. Then it's the ban hammer for you, thank you very much.

Oh definitely don't begrudge anyone for rooting for snow at their location. I think we all do that. At the same time I understand some of the frustration down here. Last few winters have been pretty rough to track with little fruits of the pattern actually ripening... one year of living through other people's snow photos is fine, two is a bit more aggravating, but 3 and 4 are borderline faith-stripping.

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"Let's mosey!"

 

--Cloud Strife

 

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.

 

Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3"

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3 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Has TWL posted at all the last few days? Hope he is okay. 

He’s fine. Just a little down about the… well I won’t say it yet. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Just now, GHweatherChris said:

Subject to change.

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You know this isn’t settled yet. That fun dividing line could end up in central

BC at this rate. Or it could trend south to Coburg. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Did u circle you’re area😂😂😂

Nope, just made sure I was in the cutoff zone for fun.  I thought about just putting a small circle around my area though lol.  That dot is KHQM, they don't get any fun.

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

You know this isn’t settled yet. That fun dividing line could end up in central

BC at this rate. Or it could trend south to Coburg. 

Hence why I said subject to change, hell, might even be able to zoom that out to include Northern California, or just put No Fun on the whole map.

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8 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

People shouldn't feel bad about rooting for snow at their own location. We all only live once, and there is no moral high ground when watching weather models roll out.

Unless you root against a snowstorm for Tiger. Then it's the ban hammer for you, thank you very much.

Plus, they have no control over the outcome.

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31 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

In the meantime, can someone ID this?

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In Oculus VR golf game every night!!! Currently Pebble Beach, beautiful weather with waves splashing up against the shore.  Lol, sounds of seagulls as well.  In all seriousness it is nice to see it for real outside ☀️ 

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1 minute ago, Requiem said:

Oh definitely don't begrudge anyone for rooting for snow at their location. I think we all do that. At the same time I understand some of the frustration down here. Last few winters have been pretty rough to track with little fruits of the pattern actually ripening.

Jesse was spot on earlier. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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NWS Spokane has a video up... basically telling people about the models being unclear and the probability of three potential scenarios but only through Thursday of next week.

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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15 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

People shouldn't feel bad about rooting for snow at their own location. We all only live once, and there is no moral high ground when watching weather models roll out.

Unless you root against a snowstorm for Tiger. Then it's the ban hammer for you, thank you very much.

Thank you for your Ted Talk.

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3 minutes ago, Snownerd3000 said:

They have an easier job

NWS Seattle used to communicate to the public more. Would put out stuff like special weather statements several days in advance. Now they just leave the public to look at their apple weather apps thinking its going to be 15 degrees and snowing in a week.

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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5 minutes ago, 12345WeatherNerd said:

Why does it feel like NWS Spokane is better than NWS Seattle?

More experience with winter? I wouldn't even call it hedging because the models aren't in agreement and there's still time...They like to update their weather blog or make videos with plenty of lead time though to educate the public.

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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3 minutes ago, LowerGarfield said:

More experience with winter? I wouldn't even call it hedging because the models aren't in agreement and there's still time...They like to update their weather blog or make videos with plenty of lead time though to educate the public.

The drop of winter weather advisories and then re-issuing them was comical earlier this winter.

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