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I’d rather look at this than boring model runs. Sunset this evening. 60F when this was taken. Pretty crazy for late November in MN.

Dang! Great pic!

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Climatology for today  November 28th

 

30 year average h/L  41/28.  120 year average H/L 39.9/27.5

Record high 67° in 1905. Coldest maximum 18° in 1950

Record low +5° in 1969. Warmest minimum 48 in 1916

Most pricip 1.58” in 1968

Most snow fall 7.9” in 1965. Most on the ground at 7AM 6” 1940

Last year H/L 51/36  with 0.43” of rain no snow.

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Gorgeous day on tap for today w readings approaching 60F and plenty of sunshine also.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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It's warm this morning. Had to take off the fleece on the morning walk.

Don't blame ya. Somehow I feel like Ma Nature is teasing us right now.....i.e., enjoy this weather now becuz harsh Winter conditions are coming. :blink:

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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We've officially wiped out our temperature deficit for the month. We were 5 degrees below normal almost 1/2 way though the month and we are now .9 degrees above normal, with above normal temps the rest of the month. Yet another example of my skepticism for any crazy winter forecasts. We had 25 CONSECUTIVE above normal months that ended this past August, and now we're back to 3 months in a row above average. No snow this month either so we are now 2 weeks past average date of first accumulating snows. Not the fast start to winter that the models were showing here in November for sure! 

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It is a phenomenal day out there. Winds are a bit gusty though. Currently @ 57F. Record is 68F. :blink:

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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So far November 2017 has only had 0.2" of snow fall at Grand Rapids,MI Going back to 1899 there have only been 12 Novembers with 0.2" or less of snow fall in November. Here is a list of past ones here at GRR with 0.2" or less. 1905 0.1", 1906 0.0", 1907 0.0" (not sure if I trust the reports from these years) 1927 0.1" 1931 trace, 1946 trace, 1948 trace, 1984 trace, 1998 0.2" 1999 0.1", 2001 trace and 2010 0.1" Those looking for a  lot of snow may not like this but some of the above winters seen the lowest amounts of snow ever recorded here in Grand Rapids 1905 20", 1906 30" are the 1 and 2 years with the least amount of reported snow fall. 1948 only had 33.7" is at number 3 The good news is as I said I do not trust the reports from 1905, 06 and 07. 

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Hello all, I believe this is my first post on this site. ECMWF EPS showing some snow for us Midwest peeps in Dec. Terry Swails has a blog post showing the cold air pushing down around Dec 13 with a possible storm on its heels. Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and the gift of snow!!

Welcome aboard!

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Hello all, I believe this is my first post on this site. ECMWF EPS showing some snow for us Midwest peeps in Dec. Terry Swails has a blog post showing the cold air pushing down around Dec 13 with a possible storm on its heels. Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and the gift of snow!!

Welcome aboard!

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@61F w a strong, gusty wind. Delightful!

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Hello all, I believe this is my first post on this site. ECMWF EPS showing some snow for us Midwest peeps in Dec. Terry Swails has a blog post showing the cold air pushing down around Dec 13 with a possible storm on its heels. Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and the gift of snow!!WW

Welcome!

When you get a chance let every one know where your location is at. Always nice to know. 

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Hello all, I believe this is my first post on this site. ECMWF EPS showing some snow for us Midwest peeps in Dec. Terry Swails has a blog post showing the cold air pushing down around Dec 13 with a possible storm on its heels. Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and the gift of snow!!

Welcome! I can say with 100% certainty that the screwhole over most of iowa is most likely legit. :)

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2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha)

TOTAL: 10.2"

(12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") 

(1/1: 6.4")

 

 

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Welcome!

When you get a chance let every one know where your location is at. Always nice to know. 

I'm in Waterloo, Iowa.. I used to get snow storm info on Mark Schnackenberg's wx chat on his blog but he took it down lol.. so I remembered this site and here I am. Like on this site, there were some great, informed wx folks on that chat, I miss it. 

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I'm in Waterloo, Iowa.. I used to get snow storm info on Mark Schnackenberg's wx chat on his blog but he took it down lol.. so I remembered this site and here I am. There were some great, informed wx folks on that chat, I miss it. 

Welcome.  There are a few of us Schnack nomads on this site.  Too bad his chat went away.  Apparently he hasn't been able to find a replacement for it since the site he used for it shut down or something along those lines.  Lots of good posters and insight here though.  

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Welcome.  There are a few of us Schnack nomads on this site.  Too bad his chat went away.  Apparently he hasn't been able to find a replacement for it since the site he used for it shut down or something along those lines.  Lots of good posters and insight here though. 

The chat was a great weather tool for snow storms.. Glad to see some of the chat peeps on this site. You folks taught me a lot about weather. Thank you for that.

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I'm in Waterloo, Iowa.. I used to get snow storm info on Mark Schnackenberg's wx chat on his blog but he took it down lol.. so I remembered this site and here I am. Like on this site, there were some great, informed wx folks on that chat, I miss it. 

 

Hey HN.  I'm Dan_CR from Schnack's chat.  As Bud says, there are a few of us here.  I wish I would have told swjohnson about this forum before Schnack's chat went down.  I always liked to get weather updates from him.

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season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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Hey HN. I'm Dan_CR from Schnack's chat. As Bud says, there are a few of us here. I wish I would have told swjohnson about this forum before Schnack's chat went down. I always liked to get weather updates from him.

Yea, I really liked his observations and updates. East dubbzz was good too, he has this forum, but has just been in absentia for a really long time in general.
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2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha)

TOTAL: 10.2"

(12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") 

(1/1: 6.4")

 

 

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Hey HN.  I'm Dan_CR from Schnack's chat.  As Bud says, there are a few of us here.  I wish I would have told swjohnson about this forum before Schnack's chat went down.  I always liked to get weather updates from him.

I was Big Dog on Schnack's chat.. went on that chat during the winter for the last several years. I remember seeing you guys on it. Great updates provided by all. Would be nice to get the old gang back together lol

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I was Big Dog on Schnack's chat.. went on that chat during the winter for the last several years. I remember seeing you guys on it. Great updates provided by all. Would be nice to get the old gang back together lol

My name was simple. Just went by 'james'. Haha. Yeah i wish he could bring it back.
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Hello all, I believe this is my first post on this site. ECMWF EPS showing some snow for us Midwest peeps in Dec. Terry Swails has a blog post showing the cold air pushing down around Dec 13 with a possible storm on its heels. Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and the gift of snow!!

 

Showing up with a map like that?? If I was in charge, you'd get a ticker-tape parade buddy!! Welcome to the best all-around sub that's not a sandwich, lol

 

Keep showing up with those maps..them's the kind with the purple shades I was hoping to see at some point this winter, and now works just fine!  :D  :lol:

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Currently @ 55F. Back to reality tomorrow w highs near normal (40F).

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Hit 62º in Marshall for a couple hrs Tuesday afternoon. Down in the upper 20's now..yet another serious overnight plunge by SMI standards. Extremely pleasant autumn wx with no bugs!  ;)

 

 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Climatology for today  November 29th

Average h/L 30 year average 41/29 all time average (120+ years) 39.6/26.9°

Record high 65 1998. Coldest maximum 11° 1929

Record low 6° 1929. Warmest minimum 54° 1998

Most pricip. 1.13” in 1919

Most snow fall 4.5” in 1960. Most snow on the ground at 7 am 7” in 1940

Last year H/L 57/46 0.16” of rain 

 

Big temperature difference in GR metro area this morning.Looks like the official low will be 36° but here at my house I had a low of 27° right now its 36 and clear here at my house.

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Broke a record high yesterday of 66.9F. Old record was 65. Currently at 38F w sunny skies.

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Nothin much for the rest of the week weatherwise, other than a weak frontal passage. Temps will remain at or slightly above average. Big changes in store for next week.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Red flag warnings out west of here. MPX looked at the records and said this is only the 3rd time they’ve had to issue this warning for critical Fire wx in November. It’s dry, and there’s no end in sight.

Hopefully, a weather system will pass on by for some relief.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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