snow_wizard Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 The 12z GEM has a pretty similar progression to the GFS, but not as amplified. Last nights ECMWF ensemble control model was really cold. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Renewed hope!!! 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 The 12z GEM has a pretty similar progression to the GFS, but not as amplified. Last nights ECMWF ensemble control model was really cold.00z GEM Ensembles were greatly improved last night too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I have to agree with phil with the fact that we likey see a stronger nino forum this summer with next winter being a moderate or strong event.but only time will tell. Very possible, but historically speaking it wouldn't make sense. I would suspect a monster Nina afterward if a Nino does happen next winter. With the solar min there is some disagreement on when the bottom will be. Of the two main models used by the Belgium observatory one says we have nearly hit bottom while the others says the bottom will be tremendously deep and still over a year off. If the latter is the case a Nino would be even more unlikely. Usually Ninos don't happen until the solar activity begins to increase again. We did dissipate a lot of heat this winter so we may get lucky. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Might need to put my poopy fork away. 3 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherfan2012 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Very possible, but historically speaking it wouldn't make sense. I would suspect a monster Nina afterward if a Nino does happen next winter. With the solar min there is some disagreement on when the bottom will be. Of the two main models used by the Belgium observatory one says we have nearly hit bottom while the others says the bottom will be tremendously deep and still over a year off. If the latter is the case a Nino would be even more unlikely. Usually Ninos don't happen until the solar activity begins to increase again. We did dissipate a lot of heat this winter so we may get lucky. agreed it going to be very interesting to see how this trends over the next few years uncharted waters.just gos to show even with all the advancements with forecasting over the years.There is still lots of pieces of the puzzle that we just don't understand yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I never wrote off anything. Show me where I did that. I intentionally did not do that because I assumed the models could lock in on short notice. I was told to stop selling it so hard... so I complied. The only sure thing is that you will mock me regardless of what happens!Going through all of your posts would be too cringey, plus you could have easily deleted a post or 2. I clearly remember you back pedaling the "trust me it's going to happen" scenario you were shouting when the models were bullish. Of course you could just blame the back pedaling on the fact that people called you out for a publicity stunt, and that would make total sesne because nothing is ever your fault right?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Might need to put my poopy fork away. I'm liking that! 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Going through all of your posts would be too cringey, plus you could have easily deleted a post or 2. I clearly remember you back pedaling the "trust me it's going to happen" scenario you were shouting when the models were bullish. Of course you could just blame the back pedaling on the fact that people called you out for a publicity stunt, and that would make total sesne because nothing is ever your fault right?! Your posts are the "cringey" ones... always launching personal attacks. You are obsessed with me! Its sad and pathetic. I never changed my prediction. I know the models often tease a pattern then take it away and then it comes back again. But you will literally mock me no matter what happens so its pointless to debate you. We could end up with a region wide blizzard on February 1st and I will still be totally wrong. It would be best if you put me on ignore and stop making comments towards me. We would all appreciate it! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 This might be a case of good models a week ago, change to bad solutions for a while and everyone loses hope, only to revert back to better solutions shortly thereafter. Certainly wouldn't be the first time. I'm just looking for improvements in the 6-10 day period. We've definitely seen that over the past few runs, especially the FV3. If the Euro continues that, even better. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sometimesdylan Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Everybody love everybody. Who cares if who supposedly backpedaled. There's some good knowledge on this forum. I'm glad that I'm now in the area and actually get to benefit from these insights. Quote "There are so many waves coming in all the time, you don't have to worry about that. Take your time—wave come. Let the other guys go; catch another one." -Duke Kahanamoku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 GFS ALERT! The 12z GFS looks fantastic. It delivers a fully loaded Arctic Blast to the PNW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Everybody love everybody. Who cares if who supposedly backpedaled. There's some good knowledge on this forum. I'm glad that I'm now in the area and actually get to benefit from these insights. Bryant is pretty much the only person on this forum who proudly engages in personal attacks all the time. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 This might be a case of good models a week ago, change to bad solutions for a while and everyone loses hope, only to revert back to better solutions shortly thereafter. Certainly wouldn't be the first time.Same thing happened last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Winds gusted to 104mph along the NW coast of Vancouver Island yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Euro stepping towards retrogression at day 7. Big improvement. 2 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Euro stepping towards retrogression at day 7. Big improvement.Yep. Same ridge merger about to occur as with GFS, FV3, GEM also to some extent. Amplifying block, 560+heights over Anchorage, Aleutian low removed. Looks encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Euro stepping towards retrogression at day 7. Big improvement. The 850mb temp map at day 7 is not too encouraging yet though... Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Day 8 Nice! Kona low, huge block evolving, retrogression, trough kicking out of eastern US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Day 8 Nice! Kona low, huge block evolving, retrogression, trough kicking out of eastern US. Quite the anomaly center over southern AK! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 A rare (for this winter) chilly rain in NW Oregon this morning it appears. Some nice Cascade snow pass level and above as well. Liking those 12z runs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Today is like a 10 degree warmer version of 1/1/04... 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminen Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 You pretty much wrote off that window of opportunity when the Euro changed its tune, but now it's back on huh? #publicitystunt We're all guilty of model riding, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 4.35" now on the month. We've closed that departure by over an inch in the past 48 hours. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Today is like a 10 degree warmer version of 1/1/04...Similar track of the low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Day 9 ... Warning shot. Goodies yet to come! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 My friend over in Central Oregon picked up a couple inches of snow this morning. 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 You can watch the block migrating to the NW on the 12Z ECMWF. I think its about to crash hard over the PNW on day 9. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Monster block setting up at day 9. Monster Kona low, too! 3 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 The 12z GEM has a pretty similar progression to the GFS, but not as amplified. Last nights ECMWF ensemble control model was really cold.Yeah, last night's 00z EURO EPS Control run showed a backdoor Arctic Blast for the PNW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Monster block setting up at day 9. Monster Kona low, too! That is a deep low over Hawaii. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 That is a deep low over Hawaii. 993mb 18z GFS in 2 hours 33 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Might need to put my poopy fork away.Your reverse psychology worked! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I like what I'm seeing with 00z and now 12z this morning. We have a long, LONG ways to go, but I am encouraged. Cautiously optimistic. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 That is a deep low over Hawaii. Might ruin a few vacations. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Might ruin a few vacations. Best to get it over with now before our trip. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I like what I'm seeing with 00z and now 12z this morning. We have a long, LONG ways to go, but I am encouraged. Cautiously optimistic. Yeah, Euro doesn't quite get there on this run, but it's a massive improvement day 6 on compared to yesterday. Love the amplification. 12z EPS should be interesting. 2 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Yeah, Euro doesn't quite get there on this run, but it's a massive improvement day 6 on compared to yesterday. Love the amplification. 12z EPS should be interesting.Sure looks like Day 10-12 would turn really cold. Move this inside Day 7 and I think we'll at the very least see backdoor cold/modified arctic blast. 00z ECMWF in 10 hours 40 minutes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Yeah, Euro doesn't quite get there on this run, but it's a massive improvement day 6 on compared to yesterday. Love the amplification. 12z EPS should be interesting.Feb 1 is not quite within 10 days yet. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Day 9 ... Warning shot. Goodies yet to come! The trend is our friend again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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