Pacific Northwest Weather -June 2023

[Phishy Wx]

22 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yes... higher than the peak of Mt. Rainer here.   And our garden still does great.   

Actual elevation here is 975 feet.   About 500 feet higher than the valley floor and SEA.    And 2.5 miles from the NB exit on I-90.    

what elevation does Phil live at?

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Beautiful

[LowerGarfield]

35 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yes... higher than the peak of Mt. Rainer here.   And our garden still does great.   

Actual elevation here is 975 feet.   About 500 feet higher than the valley floor and SEA.    And 2.5 miles from the NB exit on I-90.    

Thank you. I wasn't sure if you were kidding. I think that's a great set up and I'm eagerly waiting for you to post fall foliage photos.

[T-Town]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Greta has something to say!!!!

It’s better to burn out… than to fade away?

Or maybe that was Def Leppard. 

[MossMan]

37 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Gorgeous!

Stunning. 

[MossMan]

30 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Beautiful

Breathtaking. 

[Deweydog]

1 hour ago, MossMan said:

Going to be dark tonight at 4pm.

It’s coming.

[LowerGarfield]

4 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

It’s coming.

I laughed so hard when I saw Mossman's reply.

[FroYoBro]

Sexy.

[the_convergence_zone]

3 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

For as much variability as there has been in the operational runs... the ensembles are model of consistency.  

 

At >5 day lead time, the operational run is basically akin to plucking a random ensemble member. 

[Phil]

11 hours ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Looks like the precip chances for the 27th/28th period are quickly slipping away.

Like I said a few weeks ago, hoping for anything meaningful after the solstice is a stretch. Glad we got what we did the last few days.

I’ll wager you there will be a couple anomalous convective events in July/August this year as ULLs push into the region, cutting underneath the ridging in W/NW Canada.

In a pattern like this, guidance will over-do ridge building in high western terrain in the longer ranges, and fail to bring ULLs in (especially in the SW states).

I think you’ll like the pattern a *lot* more than the last couple of summers.

[Deweydog]

12z looks summary.

[RentonHill]

2 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

12z looks summary.

judgement?

[iFred]

2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Greta has something to say!!!!

It's ok buddy, she can't hurt you anymore.

[Phil]

1 hour ago, Phishy Wx said:

what elevation does Phil live at?

180ft.  I actually live in one of the worst microclimates west of the fall line in this region..could literally write a book about why it sucks. I’ve gotta get tf outta here man.

Seriously. On a hill, but inside the narrow potomac river valley (runs NW to SE) so still lower in elevation than areas outside the valley. Really hurts during borderline snow events.

In winter NW wind (IE: the “cold” wind) funnels thru the river valley, so we can’t decouple at night, thus missing out cold lows during cold airmasses. It can be warmer here than at DCA during NW flow in the winter. lmao

There’s so much more I could list. Heh

[Rubus Leucodermis]

2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Greta has something to say!!!!

Humans are such an adaptable “weed” species that I really doubt that will happen.

That said, there will certainly be a lot less of us around in 100 years, and what humans there are around will probably hold our current civilization in even greater contempt than we now hold the Stalinists and the Nazis.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 minute ago, iFred said:

It's ok buddy, she can't hurt you anymore.

Little gremlin could get me at anytime! 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

4 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Humans are such an adaptable “weed” species that I really doubt that will happen.

That said, there will certainly be a lot less of us around in 100 years, and what humans there are around will probably hold our current civilization in even greater contempt than we now hold the Stalinists and the Nazis.

So what you are saying is humans will continue to evolve to be even more self-righteous. lol

[Phil]

2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Greta has something to say!!!!

Bro leave Greta alone. Don’t be mad at the wizard, be mad at the man behind the curtain.

[Front Ranger]

11 hours ago, Skagit Weather said:

48 times and 31 years out of the last 78, SEA has had a sub 60F high between 6/20 and 8/31 so it's not particularly unusual, about every third year.

Nice, where do you pull those stats from? Some of those years appear to be missing from the WRCC records.

[Front Ranger]

10 hours ago, Skagit Weather said:

The last time was in June of 1964 when SEA had 4 days in a row with highs below 62F (6/16-19) with a high of 55F on 6/16.

The most impressive run was in 1953. For 12 days from 6/17-6/28 the temperature failed to get warmer than 63F including 4 continuous days below 60F. 

In July of 1966 SEA had 3 days in a row with highs below 60F (7/1: 55F, 7/2: 54F, 7/3: 56F).

In June of 1971 SEA had 8 days in a row with a high temperature of 65F or below (6/23-30) with a high of 54F on 6/24 and 55F on 6/28.

The next year in June of 1972 SEA had another 7 day stretch (6/20-26) where the temperature stayed below 65F.

And as recently as 2010 SEA had 5 out of 6 days with highs 62F or below (6/15-20) with the lone spoiler being a 69F on 6/18 followed by two days in the 50s.

In terms of the core of the warm season (2 weeks on either side of the July/Aug divide) it looks like 1962 takes the cake. Early August 1962 had 4 straight days (8/3-6) where the temperature remained 65F or cooler.

Cool. So it appears as far as 62 or below highs 4 days in a row, what we just saw at SEA was indeed exceedingly rare. Only 1-2 of these other years you cited achieved that...and not since 1964.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

8 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

So what you are saying is humans will continue to evolve to be even more self-righteous. lol

The current social order (whatever it happens to be) is always the best of all possible practical social orders, and the one that all of history’s purpose was to lead up to. Followups should probably go to an OT thread.

[Phil]

Misty, stratiform blessings at 63°F with a cool east wind on the longest day of summer. About to go for a long run along the C&O canal towpath.

You can tell the trees are vibing, glowing green foliage illuminating the woodlands. @TT-SEA I don’t understand how you can hate this weather so much?? It’s wonderful.

[TT-SEA]

Just now, Phil said:

Misty, stratiform blessings at 63°F with a cool east wind on the longest day of summer. About to go for a long run along the C&O canal towpath.

You can tell the trees are vibing, glowing green foliage illuminating the woodlands. @TT-SEA I don’t understand how you can hate this weather so much?? It’s wonderful.

Troll! 

I love that weather... and the sound of the rain falling on the leaves in the summer.    I just don't want it all the time.   This recent rainy spell was wonderful because it was so needed.  

[the_convergence_zone]

Nothing like the first rays of glorious sunshine after an extended cloudy and rainy period! 

[TT-SEA]

6 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said:

Nothing like the first rays of glorious sunshine after an extended cloudy and rainy period! 

Exactly my thoughts too.   

[Phil]

13 hours ago, Omegaraptor said:

That winter was a pretty legendary pile of sh*t here, FWIW. 0.0" at downtown Portland. 29F was the coldest temp of the entire winter.

Probably due.

What about 1896/97 and 1918/19?

[Rubus Leucodermis]

16 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Exactly my thoughts too.   

Hopefully we can get a rainy spell like this in July and August, too, along with a few showery spells. Plus of course lots of sunny, dry days. In other words, summer weather but with enough moisture to stop things from totally drying to a crisp and catching fire all over the map.

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Hopefully we can get a rainy spell like this in July and August, too, along with a few showery spells. Plus of course lots of sunny, dry days. In other words, summer weather but with enough moisture to stop things from totally drying to a crisp and catching fire all over the map.

That would be so nice.   We don't need another July/August with no rain at all.   We average 5 or 6 days with rain in both those months out here and its not as enjoyable without those days as everything ends up looking withered and it gets smokey.  

[Anti Marine Layer]

13 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

That would be so nice.   We don't need another July/August with no rain at all.   We average 5 or 6 days with rain in both those months out here and its not as enjoyable without those days as everything ends up looking withered and it gets smokey.  

Some here would prefer at least 3 days a week rainy and in the 60s all July and August. 

California has finally been getting some warmer days, but nights have been chilly and it crashes again tomorrow.

[Phil]

Can see how persistent the +NPMM has been since 2013. Looks like the system is finally transitioning away from that.

[TT-SEA]

7 minutes ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Some here would prefer at least 3 days a week rainy and in the 60s all July and August. 

California has finally been getting some warmer days, but nights have been chilly and it crashes again tomorrow.

Some would probably prefer 7 days a week in the 50s and raining... to each their own.   

[SouthHillFrosty]

It looks like Tim is in charge of the apple forecast. It’s boating szn 

Edited June 21, 2023 by SouthHillFrosty

[MossMan]

Just hit 60 degrees for the first time since last week. 

[Front Ranger]

22 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Just hit 60 degrees for the first time since last week. 

Normal. Happens the second half of June every other year.

[Omegaraptor]

1 hour ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

It looks like Tim is in charge of the apple forecast. It’s boating szn 

THIS is a Tim forecast:

[HuskyMaestro]

Happy Summer Solstice Loved the coffee sweater weather, but time to praise the sun and enjoy some hiking. 

[Anti Marine Layer]

5 hours ago, MossMan said:

Going to be dark tonight at 4pm.

Southern Hemisphere 

[MossMan]

35 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

THIS is a Tim forecast:

Chilly on Friday! 

[T-Town]

50 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

THIS is a Tim forecast:

I was in Vegas once when it was 114. Too hot. Do not recommend.