Pacific Northwest Weather -June 2023

[SilverFallsAndrew]

11 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Smoke is really a cold lovers dream... you still get the cold nights and then daytime temps go nowhere.   I remember some days in the 60s with thick smoke that should have been in the 80s or 90s based on the upper level pattern.   No wonder Andrew loves wildfire smoke so much.

Was the one silver lining of September 2020. Prevented that from being the warmest September all time. Just had to wait two more years. 

[Chewbacca Defense]

9 minutes ago, Timmy said:

You should meet my friend Jesus

Oh yeah, I know him, great guy, he built my hot rod!

[Phil]

36 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Our experience out here has been no effect on nighttime temps and significant cooling of daytime temps when smoke is thick enough to dim sunlight.

Interesting info. Usually don’t see radiative cooling overperform by the magnitude it did last night, in any month, let alone in June.

Maybe since the boundary layer is typically deeper here vs PNW, the earlier decoupling yesterday afternoon augmented the nocturnal inversion during critical early hours, allowing it to better establish? Can’t think of any other reason.

[Phil]

Something is seriously wrong this year. This *never* happens here. Like, never ever ever.

About as frequent as Seattle or Portland seeing accumulating snowfall in May.

https://twitter.com/wxliz/status/1666083266997411847?s=46&t=656Z973wLtGKaIyhhq_7QQ

[Tyler Mode]

Warmest low this month...44 degrees.

[Phil]

33 minutes ago, Timmy said:

You should meet my friend Jesus

I have a friend named Jesus as well.  

40 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Smoke is really a cold lovers dream... you still get the cold nights and then daytime temps go nowhere.   I remember some days in the 60s with thick smoke that should have been in the 80s or 90s based on the upper level pattern.   No wonder Andrew loves wildfire smoke so much.

I’d be happy if it were elevated above the boundary layer. That’s what usually happens. But not this year.

[Omegaraptor]

 

We’re not just breaking warm and dry records, we’re breaking pollen records too!!!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

The near average lows have been nice. 

[SnowWillarrive]

33 minutes ago, Phil said:

Something is seriously wrong this year. This *never* happens here. Like, never ever ever.

About as frequent as Seattle or Portland seeing accumulating snowfall in May.

https://twitter.com/wxliz/status/1666083266997411847?s=46&t=656Z973wLtGKaIyhhq_7QQ

Dramatic earth changes happening 

[Phil]

1 minute ago, SnowWillarrive said:

Dramatic earth changes happening 

2002 is only year on record that came close to this (both in terms of drought and smoke). Coincidently(?) was also a solar max niño following 3+ year niña.

Analog??  

[Phishy Wx]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Makes sense, I'm not sure I view God in that sense either. I believe there are things beyond my comprehension, and that one way or another our universe was formed and try as we may, the human mind cannot really wrap it's mind around that. Whatever force it was which created us and dictated the laws of nature, whether chance or intelligent design, it is a power and process far more complex than we can imagine in our finite minds. I like to say we all believe in God(s), we just call them by different names. 

Feds basically confirmed Alien intelligence existed recently and the Whistleblower is currently trying to bring that truth to the public.  If true it's probably the biggest seismic resonation in the history of civilization and pretty much blows the concept of organized religion (control of the masses via 'faith') out of the water.

[TT-SEA]

7 minutes ago, Phil said:

2002 is only year on record that came close to this (both in terms of drought and smoke). Coincidently(?) was also a solar max niño following 3+ year niña.

Analog??  

I have heard many great things about the winter of 2002-03!    We bought our property here in the summer of 2003 so I just missed that winter. 

[Phishy Wx]

53 minutes ago, Phil said:

Interesting info. Usually don’t see radiative cooling overperform by the magnitude it did last night, in any month, let alone in June.

Maybe since the boundary layer is typically deeper here vs PNW, the earlier decoupling yesterday afternoon augmented the nocturnal inversion during critical early hours, allowing it to better establish? Can’t think of any other reason.

surface/lower atmospheric smoke acts like fog in a sense it came dim the sun and cool daytime temps, but it does not trap heat at night, so cooling happens regardless, unlike clouds above the surface

[Cascadia_Wx]

Clear with a low of 50 here. First 50+ low since 5/27 (10 days).

[SilverFallsAndrew]

 

15 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

Feds basically confirmed Alien intelligence existed recently and the Whistleblower is currently trying to bring that truth to the public.  If true it's probably the biggest seismic resonation in the history of civilization and pretty much blows the concept of organized religion (control of the masses via 'faith') out of the water.

I guess, but it still doesn't answer the big questions. 

[Phishy Wx]

RE:  UFO WhistleBlower

 

https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1665946813394833409?s=20

 

 

UFO Bombshell: U.S. Intelligence Whistleblower Says Feds Have 'Intact' Craft

David Grusch says the government has been lying to Americans for decades about what it has really found.

 

By 

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/david-grusch-ufo-report_n_647eb0c1e4b0047ed782f875?d_id=5914112&ncid_tag=tweetlnkushpmg00000067&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=us_main

[Cascadia_Wx]

Assuming PDX hits 90 today and tomorrow (likely), they will already have six days under their belt by the first week of June. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

4 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

RE:  UFO WhistleBlower

 

https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1665946813394833409?s=20

 

 

UFO Bombshell: U.S. Intelligence Whistleblower Says Feds Have 'Intact' Craft

David Grusch says the government has been lying to Americans for decades about what it has really found.

 

By 

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/david-grusch-ufo-report_n_647eb0c1e4b0047ed782f875?d_id=5914112&ncid_tag=tweetlnkushpmg00000067&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=us_main

IDK why but I have just never cared about UFO stuff. I know it's kind of a hobby for a lot of people. 

[TT-SEA]

6 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

RE:  UFO WhistleBlower

 

https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1665946813394833409?s=20

 

 

UFO Bombshell: U.S. Intelligence Whistleblower Says Feds Have 'Intact' Craft

David Grusch says the government has been lying to Americans for decades about what it has really found.

 

By 

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/david-grusch-ufo-report_n_647eb0c1e4b0047ed782f875?d_id=5914112&ncid_tag=tweetlnkushpmg00000067&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=us_main

Sounds like some National Enquirer fodder.  

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Sounds like some National Enquirer fodder.  

They did break the John Edwards/Tiger Woods stories and bury the one about Stormy Daniels. Credit where credit is due. LOL

[SilverFallsAndrew]

5 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Assuming PDX hits 90 today and tomorrow (likely), they will already have six days under their belt by the first week of June. 

Interesting to see PDX continually being the hot spot. Historically I always thought SLE and EUG had more 90 degree days, but perhaps this year is the sign of a coming trend on that. Also, and as well, I did hear somewhere, can't remember where, this June is different than last. 

Edited June 6, 2023 by SilverFallsAndrew

[Phishy Wx]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Sounds like some National Enquirer fodder.  

this was legit released yesterday the guy who was on the Pentagon team to investigate this has a Whistleblower complaint logged because the Feds have been actively withholding UFO info from the public for over 80 years

[Phishy Wx]

 

More on the story

 

https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/

 

and there's this

 

https://twitter.com/ralphblu/status/1665809626200264705?s=20

 

[Cascadia_Wx]

3 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

 

More on the story

 

https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/

 

 

There is an OT thread.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 minute ago, Phishy Wx said:

 

More on the story

 

https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/

 

 

I don't expect you to agree, but I don't see much difference between this belief and traditional religion. 

[Cloud]

First red flag warning of the year for the Cascades in WA. 

It’s been quite windy here last few days, especially near the lakes. I work at the Boeing plant in Renton and the breeze off of the lake feels real good. Look like more of the same today.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

17 hours ago, Phil said:

Maybe during mid/late July? 

Anytime from mid-July to mid-August would be when it is most likely to happen.

[the_convergence_zone]

17 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

 

I guess, but it still doesn't answer the big questions. 

Personally I find it humbling to know that we are as insignificant as ants in the big picture. I think about it sometimes when I open my beehives in the summer and see a thriving colony of 40,000 bees, of which 39,999 will be dead in six weeks. But yet they are driven by evolution to survive and thrive and they work in a near-perfectly orchestrated way to ensure the survival of the colony and the species. It's incredible and beautiful and makes living worth it to see things like that. I feel the same about the weather, and the fact that through math science we have managed to explain and understand the weather well enough to predict the future is amazing. 

All of human society and everything that we hold near and dear will be gone before we know it, our planet and all of its history will be incinerated by the sun, and there will be no record or memory of earth's existence by anyone. And all of that will happen in a blip relative to the timeline of the universe. And who knows, the universe itself may be cyclical but we can't observe or prove that so as far as I'm concerned it's irrelevant. We could be an alien ant farm and it wouldn't matter to any of us, the best we can do is respect our tiny little delicate planet and those around us. 

I feel more fulfilled by accepting and respecting the above...time is a construct of the mind so there isn't any need to worry about it, although I admit it can be terrifying to be insignificant, it's better in the long run. 

(I'm obviously a full blown atheist but I was raised Catholic so I know religion well!) 

[the_convergence_zone]

10 hours ago, Phil said:

Looool. Models have been falsely advertising rainfall for weeks now. Always busts. The GFS has been especially awful. Projected 1” last Saturday. Ended up with a cloudless sky and haze.

Oh and now it’s showing fantasy Gulf/Caribbean hurricanes again. Every year at this time it does the same thing.

I hate that model with a passion. It could go up in flames tomorrow and the world would be better off for it.

Yep, the upper-air pattern looks like block city and good luck getting widespread precipitation with that smoke around and soil moisture continuing to decline. The agony of drought. 

[Cascadia_Wx]

1 minute ago, the_convergence_zone said:

Yep, the upper-air pattern looks like block city and good luck getting widespread precipitation with that smoke around and soil moisture continuing to decline. The agony of drought. 

You come off like one of those academics who pretends to be alarmed by AGW but deep down loves the drama and hopes for chaos. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

37 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

IDK why but I have just never cared about UFO stuff. I know it's kind of a hobby for a lot of people. 

The extraordinary evidence for the extraordinary claims of spacecraft of extraterrestrial origin visiting Earth just has not been put forth yet. Maybe the story in that article will be the start of such a thing finally happening, but I have my doubts.

[Phishy Wx]

2 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

The extraordinary evidence for the extraordinary claims of spacecraft of extraterrestrial origin visiting Earth just has not been put forth yet. Maybe the story in that article will be the start of such a thing finally happening, but I have my doubts.

my curiosity is piqued, feels like the first time serious people are saying serious things.  MSM will obviously suppress until they have multiple sources to back the claim, curious to see if/when it leads anywhere.

[the_convergence_zone]

16 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

You come off like one of those academics who pretends to be alarmed by AGW but deep down loves the drama and hopes for chaos. 

Woah woah woah, that's like 5 steps too far! As a PNWer who hates the smoke, I'll admit to feeling a little schadenfreude about the east coast smoke -- and as I mentioned yesterday, I'm cheering for it to blanket the big east coast cities as much as possible, especially Washington DC. 

Oh I should add, I'm not an academic! I work in the private sector. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Eugene did it! 1301, a new world record!

[Phishy Wx]

31 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I don't expect you to agree, but I don't see much difference between this belief and traditional religion. 

you have a point until its proven otherwise, maybe soon

[Slushy Inch]

2 hours ago, Phil said:

Something is seriously wrong this year. This *never* happens here. Like, never ever ever.

About as frequent as Seattle or Portland seeing accumulating snowfall in May.

https://twitter.com/wxliz/status/1666083266997411847?s=46&t=656Z973wLtGKaIyhhq_7QQ

Idk man Cliff Mass says this is totally normal 

[Anti Marine Layer]

3 minutes ago, Slushy Inch said:

Idk man Cliff Mass says this is totally normal 

Nothing has been normal since 2020 began

 

[Slushy Inch]

Dam, Cliff calls Michael Snyder an amateur. Wonder what the makes me.

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

Got visited by a swarm of honey bees yesterday!

 

[Slushy Inch]

Just now, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Got visited by a swarm of honey bees yesterday!

Very cool