August 2023 Weather in the PNW

[Phishy Wx]

9 minutes ago, LowerGarfield said:

The Euro loves me and the GFS doesn't.

I'd much rather have the EURO in your favor

[TT-SEA]

5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Live look from the weather porch. 

Nice to see blue sky down there.   We are downwind from you now.

[TT-SEA]

Dark and quiet here... no thunder.   At least not yet.    No rain yet either. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Nice to see blue sky down there.   We are downwind from you now.

It’s a very very muggy 63.

[BLI snowman]

Quite the delicate balance in that the ULL is close enough to give us the instability needed for storms these next few days, but not enough to trigger any significant marine intrusion.

Unusual for us in the summer after a convective event to not see a significant corresponding push and a switch to onshore flow. Here we are just sustaining the warm to hot stuff for awhile as the pattern remains more or less stagnant.

[SouthHillFrosty]

Rain is just a sprinkle but it shows me under moderate rain on radar. 

[BLI snowman]

And kind of a broken record at this point, but the low of 69 at PDX is the warmest on record for this point in the season.

[RentonHill]

ICON would be 

 

 

[Meatyorologist]

Seattle has a rain shield from the south now. Probably won't even see a drop at my house

[TT-SEA]

30 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Rain is just a sprinkle but it shows me under moderate rain on radar. 

Barely enough to wet the ground here.   Looks like the ECMWF was right in showing basically no rain out here.

[Cascadia_Wx]

30 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

And kind of a broken record at this point, but the low of 69 at PDX is the warmest on record for this point in the season.

I think Matt’s the only one that still finds this kind of record legitimately titillating.

[Front Ranger]

37 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

And kind of a broken record at this point, but the low of 69 at PDX is the warmest on record for this point in the season.

Recurring theme this summer...PDX has managed to max out every opportunity for warmth more than anywhere else, basically.

[BLI snowman]

7 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I think Matt’s the only one that still finds this kind of record legitimately titillating.

To be fair, many of us likely find a new 69 benchmark to be rather titillating. 

[Front Ranger]

13 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Barely enough to wet the ground here.   Looks like the ECMWF was right in showing basically no rain out here.

Looks from radar like it's just moving into your area?

Places further south have picked up .10-.20".

[Anti Marine Layer]

That's no marine layer, that's smoke

[Cascadia_Wx]

6 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

To be fair, many of us likely find a new 69 benchmark to be rather titillating. 

Maybe we’ll lose 69 small Oregon towns to wildfire this year. Lol!

[Front Ranger]

10 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Recurring theme this summer...PDX has managed to max out every opportunity for warmth more than anywhere else, basically.

As proof:

- PDX is running the warmest anomaly of any major I-5 station this summer

- they were also the only one to equal or exceed their previous all-time record with the big heatwave this month

[SnowWillarrive]

22 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Barely enough to wet the ground here.   Looks like the ECMWF was right in showing basically no rain out here.

Light rain here. Not much. Pleasant start to the day.

[TT-SEA]

10 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Looks from radar like it's just moving into your area?

Places further south have picked up .10-.20".

Mostly passed my area now.   It did rain harder for maybe 10 minutes with a total of .02 so far.    Enough to create some puddles but not much else. 

[TacomaWx]

0.03” here so far this morning and still raining lightly. Radar is filling in to the south and some lightning strikes well south of here. Hopefully we can squeeze out a little more rain. 

[BLI snowman]

23 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

As proof:

- PDX is running the warmest anomaly of any major I-5 station this summer

- they were also the only one to equal or exceed their previous all-time record with the big heatwave this month

Troutdale hit 110 and VUO hit 108, so there was plenty to corroborate that it was in fact an all-time level event for the Portland area. Even if it didn't happen to be for some other areas. NW OR and SW WA happened to be in the perfect position to both maximize the thermal trough and avoid the smoke that lingered further south. Trying to make it into a "PDX" issue is extremely reductive.

[Front Ranger]

8 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Troutdale hit 110 and VUO hit 108, so there was plenty to corroborate that it was in fact an all-time level event for the Portland area. Even if it didn't happen to be for some other areas. NW OR and SW WA happened to be in the perfect position to both maximize the thermal trough and avoid the smoke that lingered further south. Trying to make it into a "PDX" issue is extremely reductive.

1. I said "major I-5 stations". BLI, SEA, OLM, PDX, SLE, EUG we all acknowledge as these.

2. I agree, it's been a Portland metro thing in general. You're making an argument here that doesn't exist.

[Deweydog]

9 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

1. I said "major I-5 stations". BLI, SEA, OLM, PDX, SLE, EUG we all acknowledge as these.

2. I agree, it's been a Portland metro thing in general. You're making an argument here that doesn't exist.

Lists!

[Front Ranger]

8 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Lists!

Facts! All the weenies in the world don't change them.

I mean, I could have just said Portland instead of PDX, but the point was the same. No other major I-5 station or other major metro area has maximized the warmth this summer like PDX/Portland. It's not even debatable.

[Front Ranger]

Just noticed the GFS wants to spin up a decent tropical storm in the gulf in a few days. None of the other models show something this strong, of course.

[BLI snowman]

22 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

1. I said "major I-5 stations". BLI, SEA, OLM, PDX, SLE, EUG we all acknowledge as these.

2. I agree, it's been a Portland metro thing in general. You're making an argument here that doesn't exist.

If you agreed that it's been a Portland metro thing, then why were you making a point of narrowing it down exclusively to PDX? Like I said, that's reductive at best and intellectually dishonest at worst.

Edited August 25, 2023 by BLI snowman

[Deweydog]

5 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Facts! All the weenies in the world don't change them.

I mean, I could have just said Portland instead of PDX, but the point was the same. No other major I-5 station or other major metro area has maximized the warmth this summer like PDX/Portland. It's not even debatable.

That’s crazy.

Folks in non-UHI havens like Eugene are probably like “uhhhh… what summer???” Lol!

[Front Ranger]

19 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

If you agreed that it's been a Portland metro thing, then why were you making a point of narrowing it down exclusively to PDX? Like I said, that's reductive at best and intellectually dishonest at worst.

Context. The stat I was responding to was a PDX stat.

You assumed and I clarified. Nothing intellectually dishonest. And I really don't like being falsely accused of that.

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

17 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Just noticed the GFS wants to spin up a decent tropical storm in the gulf in a few days. None of the other models show something this strong, of course.

I'll be North of Tampa for this. Euro has been showing it for days. 

[Front Ranger]

2 hours ago, BLI snowman said:

And kind of a broken record at this point, but the low of 69 at PDX is the warmest on record for this point in the season.

Just a reminder: this is the PDX stat. You posted it...that's why I said PDX.

[Cloud]

Things fell apart up here. Radar was looking quite impressive but just a quick light showers and now drizzle. 

[Front Ranger]

6 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

I'll be North of Tampa for this. Euro has been showing it for days. 

Yeah, you might be close to landfall per latest Euro. Though it is much weaker still on Euro than GFS.

[BLI snowman]

4 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Just a reminder: this is the PDX stat. You posted it...that's why I said PDX.

And I would offer the reminder that OLM is currently sitting in 2nd place for hottest August, while further south EUG is absolutely blowing away their previous record by 2 degrees.

It's been extremely warm.

[TacomaWx]

4 minutes ago, Cloud said:

Things fell apart up here. Radar was looking quite impressive but just a quick light showers and now drizzle. 

0.05” here this morning which was nice. Hopefully more before the month is over. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Looks like another day of underperforming high temperatures due to .

Official Environment Canada forecast mentions a chance of thundershowers later today. We shall see.

[Front Ranger]

4 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

And I would offer the reminder that OLM is currently sitting in 2nd place for hottest August, while further south EUG is absolutely blowing away their previous record by 2 degrees.

It's been extremely warm.

No sh*t. Total deflection here, that wasn't even the discussion.

It's not that hard to say "oh gotcha, yeah I guess we actually agree". Since we did agree on my point about Portland metro maximizing their warmth opportunities more than anywhere else this summer. 

[TT-SEA]

12Z ECMWF for the mid-week system...

[Front Ranger]

Baker City, OR picked up another .10" this morning. Up to 2.20" for the month, their wettest August in 34 years.

[Cloud]

11 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

No sh*t. Total deflection here, that wasn't even the discussion.

It's not that hard to say "oh gotcha, yeah I guess we actually agree". Since we did agree on my point about Portland metro maximizing their warmth opportunities more than anywhere else this summer. 

You’re probably better off saying the WV region because Salem, Eugene, PDX all checked in very hot this summer and scorching August. This wasn’t just exclusive to PDX down there. 

[BLI snowman]

2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

No sh*t. Total deflection here, that wasn't even the discussion.

It's not that hard to say "oh gotcha, yeah I guess we actually agree". Since we did agree on my point about Portland metro maximizing their warmth opportunities more than anywhere else this summer. 

For that specific heat wave, yes.  For this month overall? We all know how Eugene is faring. Astoria isn't in the Portland metro and is tracking 1.6 degrees above their hottest August. Medford is 250 miles away and is tracking a degree above theirs, which of course was last year. PDX's performance does not stand out this month for western OR. 

And for July, PDX had their 6th warmest on record, while AST was 8th, EUG was 5th, and MFR was 4th. Again, they don't stand out.