March 2024 Weather in the PNW

[RentonHill]

3 minutes ago, Blizzard777 said:

 

That clearing pushing south was fascinating.  I took a picture of it before I even did the timelapse as it stuck out in the sky.  Anyhow…they are fun to watch! 

I tried to take a Timelapse from my office this afternoon but it didn’t turn out so well

[MossMan]

41/27 on the day. Currently 35 with a DP of 30. 

[Blizzard777]

13 minutes ago, RentonHill said:

I tried to take a Timelapse from my office this afternoon but it didn’t turn out so well

If I do shorter clips it’s slows down like yours . Still very cool and love the rotation! 

[Phishy Wx]

some dipshiits in the neighborhood popping off fireworks lol

what holiday is it that perhaps I'm not culturally aware of?

[Deweydog]

2 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

some dipshiits in the neighborhood popping off fireworks lol

what holiday is it the perhaps I'm not culturally aware of?

https://www.nationaldaycalendar.com/national-day/national-oreo-cookie-day-march-6

[Mercurial]

I'd be happy with a PNA ridge, at this point.  Just don't let it persist through June, for the love of God!

Anyway, here's the state of the snowpack at 3200', NW corner of the Flathead Valley.  It's not deep, but it is glacial.  It will take a few sunny March days well into the 40s to obliterate this.  

Speaking of sun, we're seeing more and more of it.  It's very welcome.  I think Whitefish only saw 3 or 4 sunny days from mid Nov through late Feb.  On the other hand, we got weeks on end of *thick* fog and fake cold, especially in December.  This has been the darkest/dankest winter in my own memory, at least.  

[Phishy Wx]

Just now, Deweydog said:

https://www.nationaldaycalendar.com/national-day/national-oreo-cookie-day-march-6

That explains it.  Gotta be it

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

51 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

What's the biggest diurnal you've seen in Sunriver? I once experienced a 95/36 day there, per the airport reading.

We got a 102/35 day in July 2021 which is probably the biggest 24 hour swing we've seen here, but I've only payed attention to 24h swings since 2020. I'll have to go through my weather records later and see if we got a more impressive one at some point.

 

Edit: turns out our record is a 94/25 day in September 2018!

 

[MossMan]

10 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

some dipshiits in the neighborhood popping off fireworks lol

what holiday is it that perhaps I'm not culturally aware of?

Perhaps they are celebrating today’s EPS! 
 

[TT-SEA]

12 minutes ago, Mercurial said:

I'd be happy with a PNA ridge, at this point.  Just don't let it persist through June, for the love of God!

Anyway, here's the state of the snowpack at 3200', NW corner of the Flathead Valley.  It's not deep, but it is glacial.  It will take a few sunny March days well into the 40s to obliterate this.  

Speaking of sun, we're seeing more and more of it.  It's very welcome.  I think Whitefish only saw 3 or 4 sunny days from mid Nov through late Feb.  On the other hand, we got weeks on end of *thick* fog and fake cold, especially in December.  This has been the darkest/dankest winter in my own memory, at least.  

I bet it would take a month to melt that much snow with a day like we had here today in the low to mid 40s with dry air and sun/clouds.   But a day like we will have on Saturday would take it all in one day... high temp in low 50s with dewpoint in 40s and a screaming south wind.   

In March of 2019 we had about 2 feet of snow left on the ground at the start of the month and endless days like today which just made it so hard you could on the top of it with ease.  Never had a good rain/wind event.   It did not completely melt off until we had temps well into the 70s.

[MossMan]

9 minutes ago, Mercurial said:

I'd be happy with a PNA ridge, at this point.  Just don't let it persist through June, for the love of God!

Anyway, here's the state of the snowpack at 3200', NW corner of the Flathead Valley.  It's not deep, but it is glacial.  It will take a few sunny March days well into the 40s to obliterate this.  

Speaking of sun, we're seeing more and more of it.  It's very welcome.  I think Whitefish only saw 3 or 4 sunny days from mid Nov through late Feb.  On the other hand, we got weeks on end of *thick* fog and fake cold, especially in December.  This has been the darkest/dankest winter in my own memory, at least.  

Looks like my driveway at 550’! 

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

5 minutes ago, Sunriver Snow Zone said:

We got a 102/35 day in July 2021 which is probably the biggest 24 hour swing we've seen here, but I've only payed attention to 24h swings since 2020. I'll have to go through my weather records later and see if we got a more impressive one at some point.

 

Went through our records, we had 94/25 day in Sept 2018!

[Meatyorologist]

1 hour ago, RentonHill said:

 

You should've seen me when KSEA bumped up to 27F in the middle of the night on 12/28/21, avoiding a 23/17 day. 4F warmer than every surrounding station. I still think it was plane exhaust. Plane unfair if you ask me 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

27 minutes ago, Mercurial said:

I'd be happy with a PNA ridge, at this point.  Just don't let it persist through June, for the love of God!

Anyway, here's the state of the snowpack at 3200', NW corner of the Flathead Valley.  It's not deep, but it is glacial.  It will take a few sunny March days well into the 40s to obliterate this.  

Speaking of sun, we're seeing more and more of it.  It's very welcome.  I think Whitefish only saw 3 or 4 sunny days from mid Nov through late Feb.  On the other hand, we got weeks on end of *thick* fog and fake cold, especially in December.  This has been the darkest/dankest winter in my own memory, at least.  

I think I have more snow on the ground than you right now. But mine will be gone this weekend when it rains. 

[Cascadia_Wx]

3 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

You should've seen me when KSEA bumped up to 27F in the middle of the night on 12/28/21, avoiding a 23/17 day. 4F warmer than every surrounding station. I still think it was plane exhaust. Plane unfair if you ask me 

I’m glad someone gets it. It’s too bad the majority of our modern weather records are kept adjacent to shadeless, barren strips of asphalt where jets take off and land all day, but that’s how the cookie crumbles.

[SouthHillFrosty]

I’m pretty sure my neighbor cut the top off my favorite tree in my yard. We’re in a dispute since he parks 6-10 cars in the street in front of my house and never moves them. God I hate Auburn

[T-Town]

1 minute ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

I’m pretty sure my neighbor cut the top off my favorite tree in my yard. We’re in a dispute since he parks 6-10 cars in the street in front of my house and never moves them. God I hate Auburn

Gotta move to high class Tacoma man. 

[TacomaWx]

4 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Gotta move to high class Tacoma man. 

Doesn’t snow here anymore though  

[Phishy Wx]

7 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

I’m pretty sure my neighbor cut the top off my favorite tree in my yard. We’re in a dispute since he parks 6-10 cars in the street in front of my house and never moves them. God I hate Auburn

I hate that ,  we have some people on our street that have like 10 cars between 3 people.  all in front of my place sometimes too.  we park in our garage like normal people

[the_convergence_zone]

10 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

I’m pretty sure my neighbor cut the top off my favorite tree in my yard. We’re in a dispute since he parks 6-10 cars in the street in front of my house and never moves them. God I hate Auburn

Is there not a 72 hour rule there? 

[Cold Snap]

50 minutes ago, Sunriver Snow Zone said:

We got a 102/35 day in July 2021 which is probably the biggest 24 hour swing we've seen here, but I've only payed attention to 24h swings since 2020. I'll have to go through my weather records later and see if we got a more impressive one at some point.

 

Edit: turns out our record is a 94/25 day in September 2018!

 

Those are absolutely insane temperature spreads. When I was in Alabama a few weeks ago I thought 70/27 was pretty crazy but those spreads are absolutely wild.

[TacomaWx]

1 minute ago, Cold Snap said:

Those are absolutely insane temperature spreads. When I was in Alabama a few weeks ago I thought 70/27 was pretty crazy but those spreads are absolutely wild.

Most I’ve seen IMBY is 106/68. Here near the sound the temp spreads are very moderated. Some places a good 10 miles from the sound it isn’t unheard of to have a 95/45 temp spread or even greater. 

[Cascadia_Wx]

22 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

I’m pretty sure my neighbor cut the top off my favorite tree in my yard. We’re in a dispute since he parks 6-10 cars in the street in front of my house and never moves them. God I hate Auburn

I would be so mad. The trees around our place are like neighbors to me.

[SouthHillFrosty]

23 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said:

Is there not a 72 hour rule there? 

There is no parking sign also, but they tore the signs down lol

[SouthHillFrosty]

12 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I would be so mad. The trees around our place are like neighbors to me.

It was a monkey tree also. Nobody had any in my area growing up so I really like the tree type. 

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Had a surprise dump of snow around mid-day in Victoria. It only amounted to about 1/2" but still the best daytime March snowfall I've seen in this location. It also kept the daily temperature spread quite low at 38F/34F, not what I'd expect for this airmass.

 

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

42 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I’m glad someone gets it. It’s too bad the majority of our modern weather records are kept adjacent to shadeless, barren strips of asphalt where jets take off and land all day, but that’s how the cookie crumbles.

For once I agree with you. We need to have official weather stations in fields/forests not surrounded by asphalt, to better represent how our climate actually is. An airport station might represent the climate people experience if they live downtown in a city, but that's about all it's good for. We need airport stations AND stations in more remote locations.

 

There are a lot of home weather stations people have out in places like that, but obviously those are not accurate enough.

 

[TT-SEA]

00Z GFS looking flatter with the ridge.

And here is the 15-day 18Z ECMWF AIFS run.  Arctic blast tracking for next winter is going to be even more time consuming. 

[TT-SEA]

00Z GFS is sort of crashy looking.   No 00Z GEM tonight.   At least not yet.

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

34 minutes ago, Cold Snap said:

Those are absolutely insane temperature spreads. When I was in Alabama a few weeks ago I thought 70/27 was pretty crazy but those spreads are absolutely wild.

Our daily temp spreads is probably the most interesting thing about our climate, in the summer/fall months we probably average close to the largest avg temperature spread in the US, because our daily avg is a 43 degree spread in July-September.

 

I tried to find what the largest 6hr temp increase ever recorded was, but unfortunately I couldn't find anything. I assume our 69 degrees of warming in 6 hours is probably close to the all-time record because the 12hr record is 84 degrees.

 

 

 

[MossMan]

17 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

I’m pretty sure my neighbor cut the top off my favorite tree in my yard. We’re in a dispute since he parks 6-10 cars in the street in front of my house and never moves them. God I hate Auburn

That would drive me insane!! I love my neighbors, can’t see their houses/driveways, nothing! All I see is woods. The neighbor to the south I have never met in the 6 years of being here, they have a dirt bike trail that runs the perimeter of their 7 acres so I can hear them running around on the weekends, doesn’t bother us at all. We wave to each other from down the road if we are getting the mail at the same time. Neighbor to the north I have chatted with twice. Good people. They have been there since the 80’s so they gave me all the intel of the area and warned me of the long power outages. The neighbor to the east are our long time friends and moved the same time as we did, we were neighbors at our old place which is kind of funny. We all stay out of each others Business, but if anything major ever went down we all would have each others back. Moral of the story, not only chose a snowy place, but a place where you cannot see your neighbors!

[MossMan]

49 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

It was a monkey tree also. Nobody had any in my area growing up so I really like the tree type. 

I would be pissed!! The one thing I miss about our old place was the monkey tree!! Took this picture right before pulling out of the driveway for the final time! 

Edited March 7 by MossMan

[Slushy Inch]

7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

00Z GFS is sort of crashy looking.   No 00Z GEM tonight.   At least not yet.

 

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Slushy Inch said:

 

Next run could easily go back.   GFS beyond 7 days is pretty volatile.   EPS is the way to go.

[MossMan]

I bet my area will see some sort of frozen precip again before April. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Cloudy and 32. Hope it clears up. 

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

13 minutes ago, MossMan said:

That would drive me insane!! I love my neighbors, can’t see their houses/driveways, nothing! All I see is woods. The neighbor to the south I have never met in the 6 years of being here, they have a dirt bike trail that runs the perimeter of their 7 acres so I can hear them running around on the weekends, doesn’t bother us at all. We wave to each other from down the road if we are getting the mail at the same time. Neighbor to the north I have chatted with twice. Good people. They have been there since the 80’s so they gave me all the intel of the area and warned me of the long power outages. The neighbor to the east are our long time friends and moved the same time as we did, we were neighbors at our old place which is kind of funny. We all stay out of each others Business, but if anything major ever went down we all would have each others back. Moral of the story, not only chose a snowy place, but a place where you cannot see your neighbors! 

That is unfortunately impossible here. I live on the snowiest hill in Central oregon (that has population), but because sunriver is surrounded by national forest where you cannot expand the town to, all of the town is businesses/neighborhoods, there is no room to for someone to own a couple acres of private residential property, there isn't a single house here where you cannot see your neighbors.

 

Luckily for me I have mostly good neighbors, except for the one house that is too loud, blows up illegal fireworks in a dry forested neighborhood (which started a small fire but luckily it was localized to their front yard). I think they mostly learned their lesson after the accident on the 4th of July last year, but I guess we'll find out this summer.

[MossMan]

32.6 degrees. 

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

19.4 currently.

[Cascadia_Wx]

29 minutes ago, Slushy Inch said:

 

This made my night.