April 2024 Weather in the PNW

[SilverFallsAndrew]

13 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

2021-22, 2016-17, 2010-11, 2008-09, 1995-96, 1988-89, 1971-72, 1970-71, 1964-65, 1955-56, 1949-50...a lot of really nice winters and historic events happened with Ninas. 

But there definitely is a tendency for neutral/+ENSO to be better further south in the PNW, and -ENSO to be better further north.

You forgot 2022-23. Great winter for many and PDX had a 10” snow event. 

[Front Ranger]

7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

You forgot 2022-23. Great winter for many and PDX had a 10” snow event. 

True. 21-22 and 22-23 both had great moments, but in different places at different times.

[BLI snowman]

2 hours ago, the_convergence_zone said:

https://cw3e.ucsd.edu/the-atmospheric-rivers-of-water-year-2024-april-summary/

Oregon wins the 2023-24 atmospheric river count with 46.

(Yes, they designate literally every storm as an atmospheric river)

They're really watering down the standards lately.

[BLI snowman]

2 hours ago, Phishy Wx said:

Neutral may seriously be the best ENSO state now for snow lovers

Then there's 1980-81. Which was a giant, gaping asscrack of a winter. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

True. 21-22 and 22-23 both had great moments, but in different places at different times.

Both were pretty great IMBY!

Dec 2022:

Dec 2021:

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Stage One water restrictions start May 1st this year.

https://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/understanding-watering-restrictions.aspx

It’s coming!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

8 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

True. 21-22 and 22-23 both had great moments, but in different places at different times.

We can split hairs all day, but 2022-23 was way better regionally. 
 

I think December 2021 was the only below average month here that winter. I know it was a little chillier further north, but 22-23 was cold pretty much every month but January which was average. In the November-March period. 

Edited April 9 by SilverFallsAndrew

[Phishy Wx]

3 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Stage One water restrictions start May 1st this year.

https://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/understanding-watering-restrictions.aspx

It’s coming!

Our are right around the corner too. They are still making a decision between May or June

[MossMan]

12 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Both were pretty great IMBY!

Dec 2022:

Dec 2021:

Amazing events! 

[Front Ranger]

15 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Then there's 1980-81. Which was a giant, gaping asscrack of a winter. 

1952-53, 1960-61, and 1993-94 also come to mind. 

[Front Ranger]

16 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

We can split hairs all day, but 2022-23 was way better regionally. 
 

I think December 2021 was the only below average month here that winter. I know it was a little chillier further north, but 22-23 was cold pretty much every month but January which was average. In the November-March period. 

Well, I believe most the Puget Sound region and s Willamette Valley did better with snow in Dec 2021 than anything in 2022-23. 

Counts for something, despite 2022-23 being a colder season.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Front Ranger said:

Well, I believe most the Puget Sound region and s Willamette Valley did better with snow in Dec 2021 than anything in 2022-23. 

Counts for something, despite 2022-23 being a colder season.

If we are boiling winters down to 2 day periods then we might as well throw 2020-21 in for good measure! 

[MossMan]

What has been the best all around neutral winter in W. Washington since the late 70’s?

Edited April 9 by MossMan

[MossMan]

Hopefully we can score an epic wind storm this coming fall/winter! 

[Phil]

1 hour ago, MossMan said:

What has been the best all around neutral winter in W. Washington since the late 70’s?

Maybe 90/91? “All around” is a subjective term.

For all intents and purposes, 16/17 was also a neutral winter, as it completely lost any semblance of LF niña forcing in Jan (and was closer to niño-costero by Feb).

[Phil]

1 hour ago, MossMan said:

Hopefully we can score an epic wind storm this coming fall/winter! 

You’d be without power for a month.  

[Phil]

The GFS is way too far offshore with next weekend’s ULL. I don’t even need to look at other guidance to know it’s wrong.

Was wondering when we’d start seeing that springtime bias manifest. Hasn’t been as bad this year (so far).

[MossMan]

24 minutes ago, Phil said:

You’d be without power for a month.  

Perfect, I’ll be ready!! 

[TT-SEA]

Mariners are so pathetic.   

[MossMan]

37 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Mariners are so pathetic.   

All of management needs to be canned.  

[MossMan]

FINALLY THE SUN!!!! 

[HuskyMaestro]

35 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Mariners are so pathetic.   

The Macdonald-led Seahawks can't come any sooner, excited for the new era.

A shame the Kraken couldn't continue their momentum from last year though

[BLI snowman]

2 hours ago, Front Ranger said:

1952-53, 1960-61, and 1993-94 also come to mind. 

I think 1943-44 and 1944-45 were neutral as well (following a moderate Nina in 1942-43). Both were regionally awful. 

2013-14 was our last classically neutral ENSO winter. As was 2012-13. The latter being another pretty lame winter. 

[MossMan]

I would like a repeat of 2006/07. Too bad that was a weak Nino. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Went out to Los Alamos this evening. 

[Phil]

2 hours ago, BLI snowman said:

I think 1943-44 and 1944-45 were neutral as well (following a moderate Nina in 1942-43). Both were regionally awful. 

2013-14 was our last classically neutral ENSO winter. As was 2012-13. The latter being another pretty lame winter. 

2016/17 should be considered neutral as well. Tropics were devoid of any niña characteristics by January.

[Phil]

1 hour ago, MossMan said:

I would like a repeat of 2006/07. Too bad that was a weak Nino. 

So was 2018/19. And 1968/69.

Weak niños can do weird stuff.

[Phil]

6 hours ago, BLI snowman said:

Then there's 1980-81. Which was a giant, gaping asscrack of a winter. 

That was one of the lamest winters in history out here as well. Grand total locally was < 2”.

Also the worst dry/windy combo in the post-WWII era. Overall it’s probably tied with 2022/23 for #1 atop the nightmare fuel list.

[Frontal Snowsquall]

9 hours ago, Front Ranger said:

Eclipse watchers really lucked out with the timing of weather systems. Most of the path of totality is getting soaked today through the next 48 hours.

Everyone would have needed to cross the border into Mexico.  

[Phil]

2010 still far and away the best SSTA match.

[MossMan]

30’s! 

[TigerWoodsLibido]

44F and mostly clear.

[TT-SEA]

8 hours ago, Phil said:

2010 still far and away the best SSTA match.

Of course SSTAs alone don't predict our local weather has we have seen in recent years.   But I am liking the odds of a white Christmas this year.  

[TT-SEA]

EPS was quite dry over the next 2 weeks.    

[Tyler Mode]

Amazing watching this total eclipse, the clouds parted and it was beautiful.  Over 4 minutes of totality was awesome, but it still went my so quickly.

I won't be posting any pictures here for obvious reasons, but this off the back of the camera shot.

Looking at home this AM, it's down to 32...possibly the last freeze of the season.

[MossMan]

Frosty morning! Winter continues! 

[Phishy Wx]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

EPS was quite dry over the next 2 weeks.    

severe drought incoming

[TT-SEA]

Just now, Phishy Wx said:

severe drought incoming

More extreme hyperbole for the sake of extreme hyperbole.

[Phishy Wx]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

More extreme hyperbole for the sake of extreme hyperbole.

if dryness becomes the trend for Spring, that's far from hyperbole this time.  we already have pending restrictions now over here based on river flow.  snowpack less than 70%.  not too far fetched.  cheers

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

if dryness becomes the trend for Spring, that's far from hyperbole this time.  we already have pending restrictions now over here based on river flow.  snowpack less than 70%.  not too far fetched.  cheers

Its hyperbole.