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3 minutes ago, james1976 said:

DMX said the GFS is a northerly outlier with their pm afd

It was the one furthest south all week now it’s the one furthest north?! Ha, crazy it now pretty much matches up with all the models. My Grid has a mix and 3-8 yet all models show 8+. Obviously the NWS know way more than us but sometimes I wonder how they do what they do!

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DVN is going with good ratios of up to 14:1 here, the same as what the Kuchera maps are showing.  With the wind, I'm skeptical.  Last night's fluff was 14:1.

I certainly hope the GFS is right, but it seems north and overdone.

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season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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Not bad from wave1....Detroit picked up a little over 2inches earlier today.....👍😀

 

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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1 hour ago, shakjen said:

But yet they just upgraded northern Illinois to a winter storm warning. Must be looking at different models. 

Same models we're all reviewing and a Met discussed the situation. Was explained that their intent with a Watch is to go to a Warning even if/when conditions/results end up falling short of the technical requirements. My statement had to do with SR models lowering amounts run after run. If they continue to spiral down, that Warning will indeed bust but they sited several items that bolster their decision to upgrade. 1) First decent storm in like 3 years. 2) Winds are expected to exacerbate conditions. 3) Lake Michigan is expected to contribute to at least the greater Chicago region's totals (the bulk of their audience in other words). 4) As I've expected and fully applaud, the NWS is moving towards "impact based" headlines, thus a hard-hitting 4-5" snow at peak travel times could warrant a Warning just as much as the traditional 6"/12 hr formal definition.

Good luck over there Chi-town Peeps. I think you'll enjoy this one after quite a drought.

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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1 minute ago, Niko said:

Not bad from wave1....Detroit picked up a little over 2inches earlier today.....👍😀

 

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What's 2" on a ruler look like, Idk?

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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9 minutes ago, jaster220 said:

What's 2" on a ruler look like, Idk?

This was a heavy band that formed over Detroit. Beautiful!

"Detroit Magnet" 😀

 

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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10 minutes ago, hlcater said:

Canadian has ~0.8” QPF for CR and IC. About splits the difference between the model camps and would probably result in a 10” snowfall.

I would gladly take 0.8" qpf.

season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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A poster on the other board says the 18z Euro is even farther south and drier.  Why is the GFS going north and the Euro going south as we approach the start?

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season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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My guess to your question is do an avg of both. The Euro seems to always dry up as the event gets really close  (maybe not this much)- I don't know about the GFS. The Euro does seem to have expanded the width of 6" snows since yday maybe eating up those insane totals that were in S.IA.

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1 minute ago, Grizzcoat said:

18Z 10:1image.thumb.png.473b8299fb16f2eaff7d8c0966d2dc9b.png

Looks like about 0.4 QPF and 0.5 for Iowa City. No ifs ands or buts about it... that's a huge yikes for the bullish forecasts, especially since the rule of the past 24 has been drier drier drier.

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2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha)

TOTAL: 10.2"

(12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") 

(1/1: 6.4")

 

 

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