February 2014 in the PNW

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Maybe the winter of 2011-12 was more of an outlier than I realized at the time. But the last two winters up here have been just pathetic in terms of snow in comparison. The lowest temp that winter was 22 though, so I kind of downgraded it based on that. After going through the past two winters however I would say that I would take plentiful snow over a bunch of meaningless cold lows. 

[Jesse]

For my location it hasn't been that great of a winter. Due to the cold maybe a B-.

 

Winter isn't over for you until March 31st. Still time for it to rise to an A.

[Jesse]

Maybe the winter of 2011-12 was more of an outlier than I realized at the time. But the last two winters up here have been just pathetic in terms of snow in comparison. The lowest temp that winter was 22 though, so I kind of downgraded it based on that. After going through the past two winters however I would say that I would take plentiful snow over a bunch of meaningless cold lows. 

 

You're going to give Tim an orgasm.

 

Cold temperatures are no more meaningless than any other kind of temperature. Cold is a pretty essential part of winter feeling like winter. I like a balance. A completely dry winter loaded with cold temperatures would be disappointing; but a wet, mild winter with lots of sloppy, quick melting snow at a couple points would be even worse, IMO.

 

Somewhere in the middle is best. Which is basically what this winter has been out here.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

You're going to give Tim an orgasm.

 

Cold temperatures are no more meaningless than any other kind of temperature. Cold is a pretty essential part of winter feeling like winter. I like a balance. A completely dry winter loaded with cold temperatures would be disappointing; but a wet, mild winter with lots of sloppy, quick melting snow at a couple points would be even worse, IMO.

 

Somewhere in the middle is best. Which is basically what this winter has been out here.

 

Essentially what this winter has been here.

 

I think a winter like 2010-2011 would have been a great one up here for both cold and snow. It wasn't as cold as this winter and didn't have as much snow as 2011-12, but it had cold, and it had quite a bit of snow.

[Snowman5678]

Bad timing...

Nice, nothing here....550ft vs 1000ft

[Jesse]

Essentially what this winter has been here.

 

I think a winter like 2010-2011 would have been a great one up here for both cold and snow. It wasn't as cold as this winter and didn't have as much snow as 2011-12, but it had cold, and it had quite a bit of snow.

 

What have you had, 10 inches or more?

 

I wouldn't complain too loudly. Olympia-north might hear you.

[Abbotsford_wx]

I would give this winter a tentative D up here. We normally average 20-25" of snow and we've had less than 6" this winter. The only reason it's not an F is because we did manage two arctic outbreaks, though neither was that cold and there was no snow on the ground either time.

 

I could still bump it to a C- or even a C if we get some snow in the next week, or if we luck out in March.

 

There's no disputing that this was a great winter south of Olympia, though.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

What have you had, 10 inches or more?

 

I wouldn't complain too loudly. Olympia-north might hear you.

 

After the .25" early this morning I am at exactly 10". That is still well below my 2012-13 total of 16.75".

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Sun is out now. Nice day for a hike. 

[Guest Monty67]

I would give this winter a tentative D up here. We normally average 20-25" of snow and we've had less than 6" this winter. The only reason it's not an F is because we did manage two arctic outbreaks, though neither was that cold and there was no snow on the ground either time.

 

I could still bump it to a C- or even a C if we get some snow in the next week, or if we luck out in March.

 

There's no disputing that this was a great winter south of Olympia, though.

C- to D sounds like a fair assessment. I am sitting at about 8" for my new location, which is over 20" below average. The only thing preventing an F right now is 6 sub freezing highs, which is probably a pretty average amount.

 

I still think I have a shot at building on my snow totals a bit this week, although it wont be snow of any quality.

[Jesse]

12z GFS op was actually one of the colder members for late next week. Ensembles are even warmer. Pretty sad.

[Guest Monty67]

12z GFS op was actually one of the colder members for late next week. Ensembles are even warmer. Pretty sad.

Maybe some 60's to close out February?

[Weather101]

Maybe some 60's to close out February?

LOL better not

[Jesse]

Maybe some 60's to close out February?

Not even close. Ensembles are actually less amplified with the ridge starting next weekend. I was referring to the trough next week.

[Guest Monty67]

Not even close. Ensembles are actually less amplified with the ridge starting next weekend. I was referring to the trough next week.

I kinda mis-read your post, not enough coffee this morning I guess. That ridge for the end of the month is looking fairly decent.

[Guest Monty67]

LOL better not

February 1991? Lots of 50's and 60's at the end of February. Massive snowstorm on March 1st, would you be okay with that?

[Weather101]

February 1991? Lots of 50's and 60's at the end of February. Massive snowstorm on March 1st, would you be okay with that?

Sounds good too me. I might be missing one nut by then but it's worth it

[Jesse]

I kinda mis-read your post, not enough coffee this morning I guess. That ridge for the end of the month is looking fairly decent.

It's looking dirty and short lived. Probably some 50s and drizzle will be the best we can expect out of it.

[Weather101]

It's looking dirty and short lived. Probably some 50s and drizzle will be the best we can expect out of it.

For this week coming up? Or the next?

[Jesse]

For this week coming up? Or the next?

We are talking about the ridge that starts building in next weekend. Looking like it could be clear and crisp the first few days, then it gets pretty gunky.

 

Obviously still a ways out so it's all mere speculation at this point.

[Weather101]

We are talking about the ridge that starts building in next weekend. Looking like it could be clear and crisp the first few days, then it gets pretty gunky.

 

Obviously still a ways out so it's all mere speculation at this point.

Ok cool , thanks ! Hoping this week trends better even tho it looks bad

[Guest Monty67]

For this week coming up? Or the next?

The next week.

 

We will see how strong the ridge gets. Looks like the east coast is going back into the freezer during week 2, that will be a nice change for them

[Jesse]

12z Euro is ugly.

 

Chances of a top cold February are diminishing pretty rapidly.

[Weather101]

The next week.

 

We will see how strong the ridge gets. Looks like the east coast is going back into the freezer during week 2, that will be a nice change for them

Haha lucky for them... Windstorm today anyone?

[Jesse]

PDX making another run at 50 today.

 

Amazing how quickly this month went into the garbage can after a great start.

[TT-SEA]

12z Euro is ugly.

 

Chances of a top cold February are diminishing pretty rapidly.

Next week does not look gunky on that run. Hoping to come back to beautiful weather.

[TT-SEA]

On the plane Jesse... don't freak out. There is wifi on planes now.

[Weather101]

On the plane Jesse... don't freak out. There is wifi on planes now.

Come on we need this week to tender colder and snowier up here

[Deweydog]

PDX making another run at 50 today.

 

Amazing how quickly this month went into the garbage can after a great start.

 

Your negativity is going to force Jesse and Jim into hiding.  

[KMartin]

I'll be leaving the forum , pending a change in where I'm at ... If they are made I'll return.  But it was fun, have a good one.

[seattleweatherguy]

I'll be leaving the forum , pending a changes ... If they are made I'll return.  But it was fun, have a good one.

Dude thanks for all your help. I appreciate it. Come back soon.

[The Swamp]

K-Mart please come back!

[TheBigOne]

LOTS of jobs for entry-level mets coming up with NWS beginning a hiring binge shortly (to fill spots vacated by attrition last several years). Anticipated couple hundred openings with openings at most offices. Also ATC (Air Traffic Control) has issued a rare call for general public applicants (must be under age 31) which is another great career path for meteorologists.

 

It's actually looking like a decent job market for degreed mets for the next couple years.

 

[TheBigOne]

This forum is funny

Especially when certain members I won't name resorts to wish casting or fantasy casts to make storms bigger then they are which I can understand as our weather most of the time is boring.  The PNW is as depressing as New Foundland Canada which is second to the foggiest and gloomiest area of North America. 

 

I think parts of the PNW should be annexed into British Columbia as certain areas of Washington resemble it so much.

[Timmy]

I'll be leaving the forum , pending a change in where I'm at ... If they are made I'll return. But it was fun, have a good one.

Awe, man....

 

Can you be a little more vague on your reasoning?

[Weather101]

Seems like a general theme around here to purposely make people feel like crap to the point they rather leave. Good job guys! And when I mean guys I mean a couple people that I won't mention there names ! Because there always right and everyone else is wrong.

[TT-SEA]

Kevin... you should definitely stay.

 

Layover now in LA... dry and smoggy here. Yuck.

 

5 hour flight is next.

 

No Jesse... I don't want a SoCal climate in the PNW. Don't get all dramatic. I can appreciate some rain.

[Timmy]

Kevin... you should definitely stay.

Layover now in LA... dry and smoggy here. Yuck.

5 hour flight is next.

No Jesse... I don't want a SoCal climate in the PNW. Don't get all dramatic. I can appreciate some rain.

You can appreciate some rain? Lolololololol

[Poulsbo Snowman]

Awe, man....

 

Can you be a little more vague on your reasoning?

I just noticed his tag was removed.  Perhaps that was the rationale--but that, too, is a longshot guess.  It could have been removed after he left.

 

Too bad.  He's clearly very good at what he does.

[Deweydog]

Dramatic.